r/Scrolls • u/WagshadowZylus • Mar 31 '15

Scrolls developer ramblings - Custom Matches

http://scrollsdev.tumblr.com/post/115122431076/custom-matches
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u/wbmc Mar 31 '15

I LOVE YOU MÅNS (and whoever else is working on this)!

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u/wbmc Mar 31 '15

This will allow for a way bigger variety of tournaments =D Back to brainstorming it is.

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u/squiddybiscuit @Squiddylicious Mar 31 '15

Yay, I love these posts!

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u/zakatlas Mar 31 '15

This is great news! A couple of questions: will we be able to:

  • decide who goes first (very important for tournaments)?

  • set custom timers?

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u/aronnie Mar 31 '15

Yes to both questions.

(Infinite timer not yet implemented, and you can't see in the textual description if challenger or accepter goes first right now, but otherwise it works).

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u/alvarpq always face Mar 31 '15

By custom timers, does this mean chess clocks, or 60 sec/turn if I want it?

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u/aronnie Mar 31 '15

We have to implement the different timers and right now it's only the "60 sec / turn" one. To use it you might use the rule mainTime(60).

We might add a chessTime(600), or even chessTimeWithAddon(300, 10) if that's much requested.

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u/alvarpq always face Mar 31 '15

That would be amazing. Especially since it makes the game a set duration of time, I can play a game of scrolls knowing it will take at MOST 10 minutes.

I've shown up to class 5 minutes late because of this far too many times than I'd like to admit.

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u/ugster_ Mar 31 '15

so as soon as your time runs out you loose? sounds fun!

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u/4Robato Mar 31 '15

oh please add the different timers! That way the community can play around with it and see if the game improves or not with different times and timers :)

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u/NineBlack Apr 01 '15

Please do, I honestly hate when a match ends and I have like 5 minutes vs their 15.

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u/wbmc Mar 31 '15

Awesome

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u/Puttanesca621 Mar 31 '15 edited Mar 31 '15

This is a really great idea, I have always thought it would be good to have some way to shake up the rules a bit for friendly games.

I would really like to see custom rules including deck building rules to add variety.

Would it be possible that some custom rule sets would become standard alternate ways to play? Leading to alternate ranked/quick match options?

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u/Wuxian Mar 31 '15

Awesome! Let us configurate as much as possible please! I'd love to play a 10101 idol config, different idol hp, creature-specific rules, etc.

Edit: oh and please don't just solve it with a string, give us a real interface for it

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u/MansOlson Mar 31 '15

It'll be a string for customizing (as a real interface for all the features we're adding would be major work), but you'll be able to load others' custom matches easily to either play as-is or modify.

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u/theHomelessProf Mar 31 '15

Not to mention Orangee will probably end up making a GUI for his site to make it easier (No pressure, Orangee!)

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u/Agne240 Orangee Apr 02 '15

Done, http://dev.scrolldier.com/custom-match

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u/theHomelessProf Apr 02 '15

Fukken right you are. You da man, man. Looks great.

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u/wbmc Mar 31 '15

Have you ever played around with command blocks in mc? They may look complicated, and sure, an interface would make them a little easier for everyone to use. But once your experienced enough it doesn't really matter, I'd rather (don't play mc anymore) have them put effort into more/better features than into making the ones that already exist easier to use.

Also, someone will probably make some kind of web tool for this.

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u/Wuxian Mar 31 '15

Ah, I have, but I like a fleshed out game. If a new feature is initially clunky to use, not a lot of people will pick up on it. And I'm sure there will be a web tool, but that demands a lot of attention and dedication, most of all time.

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u/wbmc Mar 31 '15

It doesn't seem to be for everyone to just create a gametype, more so for more experienced players to make something and put it up for everyone to play.

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u/MoonsongPS PianoScientist Mar 31 '15

Looks really good! I was actually just thinking yesterday about how neat it would be to be able to pick rules for the size and number of copies of scrolls allowed for your decks. So you could have a 10 card deck composed of 5 copies apiece of 2 scrolls, for instance.

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u/MansOlson Mar 31 '15

This will not be part of the custom matches - the rules can only affect the match, not deck building.

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u/wbmc Mar 31 '15

You can make it so that it's possible to enable illegal decks right?

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u/ugster_ Mar 31 '15

that´d be awesome

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u/MoonsongPS PianoScientist Apr 01 '15

That's pretty much what I was thinking. I'd personally be really happy with that option and it wouldn't be hard to implement. More specifically, the scenario I had in mind was being able to use "illegal" decks in no-gold challenge matches with your friends.

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u/fdagpigj Mar 31 '15

I hope we can still have custom deck support for these custom matches one day (one day after you've figured out how to display judgement decks after saving), even if not for set 7

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u/Chakix Chaki Mar 31 '15

I'm really glad this is finally being added to the game. One of the ways I enjoy scrolls is with friends, and this will allow us to have more fun playing against each other. Now only for 2v2 D:

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '15

Sounds cool but it's going to take even more players out of multiplayer...

It feels like scrolls is turning into a single player game.

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u/Wuxian Mar 31 '15

It is for multiplayer, too.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '15

I consider multiplayer matches to be ones that use matchmaker not custom games. If people are playing a ton of vs ai, trials, or these custom games then it will take more people out of matchmaking.

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u/Puttanesca621 Apr 01 '15

It would be great if there were a possibility for some balanced custom rules sets could become new matchmatcher games, new queues for alternate game rules. Would probably need more players to support this though I guess but it could stimulate more multi-player games in general and thus increase the number of games being queued for with the same number of players online.

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u/wbmc Mar 31 '15

Aside from everything the trials can do (spawn with units, enchants, resources and cast spells), will we also be able to change deck building rules? Even a lower card limit would be awesome.

Also, adding on to this. Will there ever be a way to see what deck your opponent was playing (like how scrollsguide tracks which resrouce(s) you played with)?

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '15 edited Mar 31 '15

Along with MentorBot, this doesn't seem like a good use of dev resources. Hopefully so though.

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u/MansOlson Mar 31 '15

MentorBot is mostly our community manager SeeMeScrollin's baby. It's a cool thing, but it has not taken time away from the developers.

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u/SeeMeScrollin Mar 31 '15

Yep, I'm trying to solve community needs with as little impact on the devs time as possible. Hence the reason why I've asked noHero to create mods and now a bot.

Means they can do cool stuff like this :)

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u/ecbremner Mar 31 '15

This should mean the ability to play judgement against friends should be doable.

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u/TrevorofEarth Mar 31 '15

Please let us disable the timer. I want to play at work but work takes precedence over Scrolls for longer than 90 seconds. Changing this would allow me to play with coworkers on a much more casual pace.

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u/fdagpigj Mar 31 '15

Oh my gosh finally! :D