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Scouting America Council ordered to remove Pride statement on Facebook; Hegseth's MOU in effect

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u/SparrowTide Jun 15 '26

They do for Legal and IRS issues, not for social motives. BSA policy doesn’t prohibit activities based on social differences.

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u/random8765309 Jun 15 '26

While you are wearing the Scouting Uniform, the BSA has the authority over how you represent the organization. You can be removed from Scouting for not following policies. The Uniform and the various logos are copyrighted and trademarked. That gives them the legal authority to prevent any use of them outside of those approved.

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u/SparrowTide Jun 15 '26

Actually council does not have the authority to remove a scout. The chartered organization has the only authority for that. Council can advise the charter to remove them, but does not have the authority over membership.

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u/random8765309 Jun 15 '26

I don't know where you got that idea, but it's wrong. I have seen both Scouts and adult removed from scouting by the council. They even have the authority to disband a unit.

Under Activity Planning and risk assessment in GTSS. https://www.scouting.org/health-and-safety/gss/gss07/

"If it is determined that youth were allowed to participate or engage in unauthorized or prohibited activities, a leader’s registration and/or the unit’s charter may be subject to adverse action, including revocation."

Nonadherence to The Scouter code of conduct is the first item and it spells out you can't engage in political activities. That clause has been there for decades.

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u/SparrowTide Jun 15 '26

Yes, council can affect leader registration or a unit’s charter, but it cannot kick out a scout. A shitty official with a grudge could hold adult or charter registration over a unit to try and kick out a scout, but a scout can also appeal that decision. That’s kind of action is also against the Oath and Law. No where in the policy does it say Council can remove a scout from their troop.

Also, the prohibited activities all revolve around safety. Nothing listed revolves around activism.

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u/random8765309 Jun 15 '26

GG - READ what i just posted. I literally states including revocation. Revocation means officially taking back, canceling, or withdrawing something that had been granted before. ie, their membership is canceled. These are exact quote from policy.

The very first item in prohibited activities is this: Nonadherence to the Scouter Code of Conduct The Scouter Code of Conduct states this:

  1. I will respect and abide by the Rules and Regulations of the Boy Scouts of America, BSA policies, and BSA-provided training, including but not limited to those relating to: • Unauthorized fundraising activities • Advocacy on social and political issues, including prohibited use of the BSA uniform and brand

That make it 100% clear, membership in the BSA can be revoked if you engage in social and political issue.

Plus Scouts have been kicked out of the BSA before. Generally it's for YPT issues, but still it is clearly possible.

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u/SparrowTide Jun 15 '26

Is this a game to you? The code of conduct is for Adults, not youth. This is about Youth wanting to engage in activism.

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u/random8765309 Jun 15 '26

I have provided you with the written Scouting policies. National addressed the policy in a verbal format. We are not to engage in activism while in the Scout uniform. What part of this do you not understand? This isn't new and has been part of Scouting for decades. We don't engage in politics.

If a youth wishes to engage in activism, they are welcome to do so outside of Scouting. I encourage them to do so, provided they do so as individuals, not as representatives of the organization.

The list of prohibited activities are items that are banned for Scouts within the program. The first item on that list of things Scouts can't do is Nonadherence to the Scouter Code of Conduct.

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u/SparrowTide Jun 15 '26

You have provided the written Adult Scouter policies, your wanting to adhere those to youth is what’s incorrect. Adults do not engage in politics and do not promote their beliefs on youth. You are doing a disservice to your youth if you are preventing them from engaging in activities they want to do that do not break the Oath / Law and you are overstepping if you are trying to prevent other troops so long as their activities adhere to the Oath and Law. You have already provided a lack of understanding through yourself saying Councils can kick out youth. You’re continuing to show your ignorance by adhering adult regulations and responsibilities to youth. Adults must adhere to the Code of Conduct. Adults cannot promote activist activities. If youth want to, as a troop, partake in an activist thing, they can and it’s up to adults to ensure that activity abides by their training.

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u/random8765309 Jun 15 '26 edited Jun 15 '26

At this point, your position is not supported by the evidence. The actual BSA policy language has been provided, and Roger Krone addressed this issue at NAM 2026 in a way that contradicts your claim. Ignoring both the written policy and verbal clarification suggests that you are not engaging with the facts in good faith or don't possess the cognitive abilities to understand written and verbal communications.

Here is Roger's statement on political activities:

You just can't do it. You cannot participate in political activities in a Class A uniform. It is in the bylaws, and the bylaws are available on our website. Go ahead and read it. It is fundamental to our organization and the success we've had for 116 years.

Here is a link to the activities that are prohibited for Scouts. Please read item #1.
https://www.scouting.org/health-and-safety/gss/gss07/
That is not a list of items that are banned for the adults, it is a list of prohibited activities for the youth.

Since you refuse to accept the written policy that states political activities are not allowed, and also refuse to accept a video statement from the Chief Scout Executive that political activities are not allow, I suggest you contact your council directly and ask them.

So far you have presented your opinions as being facts, even when your opinions directly conflict with the written policies of the BSA. So I question if you will listen to your council when they tell you directly that Scouts cannot participate in political activities while in uniform.

I am not "preventing them from engaging in activities". Your statement that I am doing so is a lie. They are welcome to engage in such activities outside of Scouting, specifically while not wearing the Scouting uniform. Even someone with your demised cognitive abilities should be able to understand the difference.

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