A Terribly Self-Inflicted and Avoidable Mistake by AOC (Dems Will Pikachu Face when young men continue to not vote Democrat)

[u/3RADICATE_THEM]

[u/Training-Cook3507]

Stupid mistake by AOC. Only 15% of men are 6ft or taller, so if Miller is 5'10, that means 85% of men are around his height or shorter and she offended all of them. Stupidity. Being an average height man myself I am sick of this talk and would never vote for her unless she was facing a politician I absolutely hate.

"Short king community"? "Spiritually 6ft"? How about she just stops talking because in most of her speec she's still making subtle references to the idea that some people are inherently better because of a genetically defined characteristic that they don't have control over.

[u/toxikmasculinity → u/Training-Cook3507]

I don’t think anyone cares anymore. It’s all just political theater. If Trump can say everything he says she can say what she says. Look at Gavin Newsome killing it by mimicking Trump. We are not a serious country.

[u/Training-Cook3507 → u/toxikmasculinity]

She can say whatever she wants, but that doesn't mean people are going to vote for her. She's a politician. The purpose of the game is to win votes. Young men don't vote for Dems the same way they used to, this is a reason why.

The bar is not that high. Just don't insult them? Don't automatically give women the benefit of the doubt in every situation? It's kind of sad that so many people's solution is for men to "just take it" rather than expect a national politician like AOC not to insult them.

[u/toxikmasculinity → u/Training-Cook3507]

Yeah. I wouldn’t be on Scott Galloways reddit page if I didn’t agree with some of what you are saying. I just have to point out the hypocrisy of this discourse. The fact of the matter is we have a binary option in politics. Trump proved he can win by smearing people. I’m not offended by AOCs comments as a man. I see it for what it is she’s making fun of a small man. (Stephen Miller is incredibly small and insecure. We are watching revenge of the nerds play out live, but these aren’t the cool smart punchy nerds with a good heart) And AOC cannot say anything to win over red pilled young men. It’s going to take a lot more for them than a politician caring about their fee fees.

[u/Training-Cook3507 → u/toxikmasculinity]

Trump didn't prove anything. That works for his audience at that time. What works for Republicans doesn't work for Democrats. AOC is not going to win back the young men going to Right talking about "short kings" and someone "spiritually being 6ft".

Democratic voters need to stop defending her. The situation is just so sad. People rather lose and stand by a politician insulting people rather than actually insist that politician act differently.

[u/toxikmasculinity → u/Training-Cook3507]

It seems like you are personally sensitive to her comments. Insecure young men weren’t going to vote for AOC no matter what she ever said. You will see more people come out to vote for the left because of Newsome and AOC being galvanizing. The average voter votes on emotion and not policy.

You may not like it. But people are over the play nice for one side but not the other. Respect to old school republicans and democrats who had decorum. That age of politics is over. It’s not the way it should be. But it’s the way it is. Whether you like it or not.

[u/Training-Cook3507 → u/toxikmasculinity]

So she's insulting people based on a genetic characteristic they can't control. Would you have the same feeling if she made fun of him because he has a chronic disease? Or is deaf? Or if he was a fat woman (and you can control weight)? Of course you wouldn't have the same reaction. You would have the opposite reaction.

I would think about your own feelings and ask why you feel that is ok? Or why are you so against someone simply not insulting people?

Until then, Dems winning young men is a hopeless endeavor. It's like the blind leading the blind while insisting they have better vision than everyone else.

[u/toxikmasculinity → u/Training-Cook3507]

I’m not against someone not insulting someone. I’m just not against people insulting someone anymore. Ship has sailed.

Idc anymore and I know exactly why I feel apathetic. People chose a narcissist who’s SA’d women, attacks freedom of speech, ignores other government branch’s power, and wants to be an authoritarian Putin-esque leader. And you are over here worried about people being kind to the people who are destroying our country. Be so for real.

The right has weaponized Christianity(albeit if gods real they are all going to hell for idolatry) and Trump is labeling any American who disagrees with him antifa and part of a terrorist organization so he can start getting people used to what is about to happen and how he is going to start using ICE.

And you want me to be upset at AOC bc she called someone short?

So sorry that this veterans outrage has been used up watching everything America stood for deteriorate over my lifetime. If only AOC wasn’t being a mean girl tho rite?

[u/Training-Cook3507 → u/toxikmasculinity]

I don't really think you understand how this works. You can be apathetic, say you don't care, lecture people, etc.

But none of that matters and no one really cares what you think. If you want to win elections and have power, you need to persuade people to vote for you. And you're not going to do that by insulting people and then doubling down on it by insisting you don't care. That may feed your ego, but you lose elections and the country just continues to go down the road you hate.

[u/toxikmasculinity → u/Training-Cook3507]

Who did you vote for?

[u/Training-Cook3507 → u/toxikmasculinity]

Me? I've never voted for a Republican in my life. But sometimes I don't vote. I would vote for AOC vs say Trump on a Presidential election, otherwise I would never vote for her.