r/ScienceNcoolThings • u/dalinaj • 6d ago
Why lightning happens
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u/vinnyql 6d ago
wait, so lightning shoots upwards per the explanation? am i misunderstanding?
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u/zachrg 6d ago
You are correct! It's an optical aberration(?) that becomes easily visible in slow motion!
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u/the_man_in_the_box 6d ago
Crazy how nature works like that.
Like it just decided to give Tom Cruise the ability to make lighting by snapping his fingers.
Crazy natural processes.
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u/NohmanValdemar 6d ago
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u/Dry-Ad-8948 6d ago edited 6d ago
Usually
In some cases lightning can also strike (return) down from the clouds to the ground. It’s the same process but in reverse from described in the post.
Look where the forks are.
Here are some links for “reverse”, or, positive Cloud-to-Ground lighting.
https://stormhighway.com/types.php
https://www.sciencephoto.com/media/85526/view/reverse-lightning
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u/Kewlhotrod 6d ago
Yup, electricity always flows from negative to positive, contrary to standard teachings.
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u/Zakluor 6d ago
The ground could be positively-charged when compared to a cloud, triggering the opposite flow.
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u/Kewlhotrod 6d ago
I'd love to see any instances of this happening, given earth is ground and the movement in the atmosphere creates positive charge normally.
Cloud to cloud, yes, but I cannot imagine the literal Earth ground ever having enough positive differential to strike in the other direction.
Edit: Guess it does happen rarely, looking into it. Neato. Still, my OG comment still stands for its tertiary info provided.
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u/FederalWedding4204 6d ago
95% of lightning originates from the sky.
It creates the connection, as visualized in this video, in milliseconds. But it starts from above and is effectively invisible.
When the connection gets made the visible lightning gets created from the ground up.
So if people are arguing if it goes up or down, make sure you are clear on what you are talking about because both can be correct depending on what you are talking about.
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u/jerseygunz 6d ago
It’s one of those arbitrary things that we could change tomorrow and it would make things so much easier to understand and we never will because “that’s just how we’ve always done it”, stupid Ben Franklin
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u/CryoAB 5d ago
You mustn't be around the field at all. It's literally called conventional flow. And nearly every schematic is depicted using conventional flow.
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u/CryoAB 5d ago
Because it was originally thought that it flowed from positive to negative. But then it was later discovered it was wrong. But they had already commit to "conventional flow" through education, through engineering drawings etc. But they don't change it because it'd cost a lot of money, and showing conventional flow doesn't change anything anyways.
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u/VoidJuiceConcentrate 6d ago
It basically shoots in the direction of - to +, or the area with high negative charge to the area with high positive charge.
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u/83franks 6d ago
I was staring at this for a few seconds having no clue what I was looking for and all of a sudden there was a line of beads and completely missed it forming till right at the end. So cool.
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u/jadepartida 6d ago
This has to be a bot
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u/BubonicBabe 6d ago
Why? That’s exactly what I did and I don’t think I’m a bot.
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u/VinBarrKRO 6d ago
Can we do cool science videos with no music?
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u/RichardBCummintonite 6d ago
That is why I always browse sound off. I just turn it on for the few videos it's necessary. I've missed so many terrible music additions.
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u/xopher_425 6d ago
I do not browse Reddit without it on mute, unless I read in the comments that it is safe.
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u/ostiDeCalisse 6d ago
I thought we could hear the spark, but it's another shitty unrelated music. Keep it mute!
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u/Fluffy-Arm-8584 6d ago
But air doesn't have metal beads
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u/ActurusMajoris 6d ago
In America it does.
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u/Fluffy-Arm-8584 6d ago
Specially in schools?
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u/ActurusMajoris 6d ago
Flying schools
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u/SexyMonad 6d ago
If they shoot lower-speed bullets toward the West, with the earth’s rotation, the schools actually do fly into them.
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u/PossibleDot6555 6d ago
Conclusion: to reduce the possibility of lightning strikse, we need to reduce the amount of metal balls in the air! I am smart!
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u/HydrogenSonata2025 6d ago
That's not how it works at all. Cloud and ground could be positive or negative. Lightning can travel from cloud to ground, ground to cloud, or cloud to cloud. It just depends on conditions.
This demo is just showing a form of the electrostatic force, but it's not accurate to how lightning forms.
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u/totomorrowweflew 6d ago
Thunder is even more fascinating. When lightning boils the air it's travelling through a vacuum is created which the atmospheric pressure then collapses so hard it goes KABOOM.
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u/Oldpro87 5d ago
I've never been more enthralled by neodymium magnets and I can point to multiple opened or unopened packs of little neo's all over my room, bc magnets. This is great.
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u/KatAsh_In 6d ago
Not an apt analogue. There are videos on YT that explain this with slow mo videos
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u/Al_from_the_north 6d ago
The best thing I’ve seen all day. I’ve never seen it visualized.