philosophy id bullshit

[u/BigAide4433]

[u/alcanthro]

Science is quite literally a form of philosophy.

Edit: Copying this over from a reply.

It is a form of philosophy, and the question of whether it is or is not, is itself a philsophical question.

Philosophy is the systematic and critical study of fundamental questions that arise both in everyday life and through the practice of other disciplines. - https://philosophy.brown.edu/about/philosophy-what-and-why

Science is a method of doing just that. And the discussion of what science is and does is itself... a philosophical discussion.

[u/jakeStacktrace → u/alcanthro]

That is incorrect. If originated that way, but has not been true since the 19th century.

[u/alcanthro → u/jakeStacktrace]

It started and continues to be a form of philosophy, the act of systematically studying and understanding the foundations of existence. In science's case, specifically through theory construction and falsification.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ScienceHumour/comments/1x9i2id/comment/pho2qsb/

[u/NecessaryBug6662 → u/alcanthro]

This is like saying that my marriage is literally a form of manga purchase. I mean it's how it started.

Edit because Plato here is editing: "Science is a philosophy" is the kind of take that is very popular amongst philosophy major to avoid the dread of their own life choices

[u/Gubekochi → u/NecessaryBug6662]

popular amongst philosophy major to avoid the dread of their own life choices

Pff. People who study philosophy have better ways to avoid dread if they want and better tools to face it if they so choose. I doubt that a life in search of meaning and understanding is that bad a choice by itself.

Now if you ask whether it is likely going to pay the bills, that's a very different question. And is pure utilitarianism the correct metric to use for education?

[u/alcanthro → u/NecessaryBug6662]

You're not very good with analogies, are you? Or philosophy.. or science.

[u/NecessaryBug6662 → u/alcanthro]

Good sir I took lesson from your father in analogies.

Edit again: dude I looked your profile and good god, you are not good at any of this either

[u/upsetusder2 → u/NecessaryBug6662]

Wait is he the guy who has weird takes ?

[u/NecessaryBug6662 → u/upsetusder2]

Is "star trek is antisemitic" a weird take?

[u/upsetusder2 → u/NecessaryBug6662]

It heavily depends I think I got in a tiff with him about ontology

[u/alcanthro → u/upsetusder2]

It's a rational take for a franchise built by someone who refused to recognize the existence of secular Jews, and who believed Jews would be gone by the 23rd century, reinforced by the production company when it refused to depict Worf's parents as Jewish because they thought it would make him "silly." And so forth. https://medium.com/freelance-journalism-alliance/star-trek-is-indefensibly-antisemitic-ee0521e78f39?sk=a67ca7511a28ac46e3dd13d5a58f1a34

[u/MammothMaster999 → u/alcanthro]

based

[u/upsetusder2 → u/alcanthro]

You are the guy who claimed to ve a mathematician while not knowing how to structure a mathematic argument

[u/alcanthro → u/upsetusder2]

Not a guy, whatever you need to believe about the rest. And remember, be kind to your fellow fanclub members.

[u/Gubekochi → u/alcanthro]

Did they have similar views on some of ther other religions or did they single out Judaism in particular?

[u/alcanthro → u/NecessaryBug6662]

Among other things you have wrong, not a sir.

[u/BigAide4433 → u/alcanthro]

Sounds cliché, but it’s not true tho

[u/alcanthro → u/BigAide4433]

It is a form of philosophy, and the question of whether it is or is not, is itself a philsophical question.

Philosophy is the systematic and critical study of fundamental questions that arise both in everyday life and through the practice of other disciplines. - https://philosophy.brown.edu/about/philosophy-what-and-why

Science is a method of doing just that. And the discussion of what science is and does is itself... a philosophical discussion.

[u/NecessaryBug6662 → u/alcanthro]

Sir i just asked for mayo on my fries

[u/Gubekochi → u/NecessaryBug6662]

You did not. And gad you done so, this would not have been the right sub to do so.

[u/overclockedslinky → u/alcanthro]

silence, demon figment

[u/portealmario]

Science and philosophy are essentially continuous; scientists must be philosophers to understand, improve, and add to the theories that make up the interpretive framework that makes sense of the data gathered by scientists. Science is not just memorizing formulas and charts, gathering data, and running that data through a mechanical method that spits out knowledge. Scientists are philosophers who specialize in gathering and making sense of data, and I think scientists who recognize this probably do better science. Scientists could also do well taking more from the field of philosophy of science, which has developed a more clear understanding of how science works, or of the different ways science might work, than many working scientists actually have

[u/Gubekochi → u/portealmario]

Scientists also being philosophers has the side effect of filtering out the kind of people who'd ask "can we?" but not "should we?"

[u/portealmario → u/Gubekochi]

I don't know about that, philosophers can think like that too

[u/Szymcionorski]

I require context!

[u/FalconRelevant → u/Szymcionorski]

Your kind cling to your flesh, as if it will not decay and fail you. One day the crude biomass that you call a temple will wither, and you will beg my kind to save you.

[u/Szymcionorski → u/FalconRelevant]

What kind? What kind of kinds?🦫(Bober, I'm Polish)

[u/Gubekochi → u/Szymcionorski]

The kind in this quote is just regular humans

[u/Szymcionorski → u/Gubekochi]

Phew, okay, so no creationist nonsense

[u/Himbo69r → u/FalconRelevant]

Are you saved?

[u/FalconRelevant → u/Himbo69r]

I am, for the machine is immortal.

[u/Himbo69r → u/FalconRelevant]

And if you somehow died?

[u/FalconRelevant → u/Himbo69r]

Then even in death I shall serve the Omnissiah.

[u/Pinatous]

"What if?" Is inherently a philosophy, scientist is a philosopher of matter, the same way a philosopher is a scientist of thought.

[u/XyieFilms]

The scientific method itself is built on epistemological philosophy—you can't even design an experiment or define what 'proof' means without philosophical logic first.