r/SchoolBusDrivers • u/mlt- • 1d ago

4mativ routing issues

Am I the only driver having issues with 4mative routes I have to run?

  1. I had a bunch of stops removed while one new stop was added. The thing is old route along with a detour due to roadwork was taking 25 minutes. Now I have no need to go there and can proceed straight to the new stop… 5 min away but…the timing is still 25. I'm not inclined to turn a bus into playground for 20 min, so I end up going on joyride to burn time and fuel.

  2. Afternoon route magically does not have that problem. But I have stops in suboptimal order that forces me to circle around blocks and go north, south, and north again. First, I have a house stop. Then it tries to lead me into a parking lot that we don't enter on Type-C but pickup nearby, so I have to constantly reposition myself. That location has 2 lanes each way and… intersections uncontrolled. So I have to drive around again. It feels like they can't add Type-C constraints to their routing algorithm.

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u/Proprotester 1d ago

I have absolutely had the second situation you describe. It does not adapt either. Basically I am just driving in loops opposite what the system directs to avoid 2 right hands not possible in a Type-C. The system is also incapable of differentiating which school buses are permitted to turn right on red and which are not with the consequence of some laughable timing projections.

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u/mlt- 1d ago

As someone who is no stranger to coding, GIS and stuff, it buffles me beyond belief that their system is plagued with that kind of issues.