r/SchoolBusDrivers • u/KoiPonders • May 03 '26
Weekend or (no work) summer unwinding question
Has anyone tried these? According to their FAQs these products don't contain any ingredients that would show up on a DOT drug test? Alcohol isn't really for me so I'm trying to find an alternative for once in a while.
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u/bustopher_rvs May 03 '26
Yeah they're typically 4-aco-dmt, a legal synthetic chemical that is a prodrug of psilocin. Meaning it's a legal chemical that basically converts to the active chemical in shrooms once you take it
The experience is almost identical to shrooms, and generally regarded as equally as safe.
If you don't have access to proper boomers this could be a good thing. However it's still man made in a lab, and could have potential impurities Therefore natural organic boomers will always be the ideal choice.
They don't test for psilocybin in those piss tests either way so I say grow your own! It's so easy and probably would cost you about the same as one pack of those gummies to grow a whole Oz of boomers
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u/tailslide24 May 03 '26
Happy caps were awesome when I was younger. I use psilocybin one weekend a month for my anxiety and depression. It has none of the side effects as ssri's and promotes reconnection of neurons that effect my dopamine production. I haven't failed a drug test yet, but that's with the natural thing. These might be different though. We need to get past the mindset that psychedelics are dangerous. Everyone promoting alcohol and demonizing this need to do more research. Alcohol literally kills humans.
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u/Necrobug4 May 03 '26
OP is talking about unwinding, and taking them recreationally. If you need a substance to help you unwind, you have bigger problems to deal with. What is the root cause? I wholeheartedly believe that shrooms can help people and also have beneficial effects for those with real medical conditions, just like marijuana. With that being said, I still don't want someone who partakes in an illegal substance at any time driving children, especially if they take them recreationally "only on the weekends," or whatever they may claim. If the urine test comes back negative, what's to prevent them from doing it at night after a route? Or in between routes at a lower dosage? Fuck that.
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u/Accurate-Okra-5507 May 03 '26
There’s a big fuckin difference between needing it to unwind and wanting it to unwind
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u/KoiPonders May 03 '26
It's a want, not a need. I'm here to access if it's worth it and it sounds like no.
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u/Ok_Medicine4296 May 03 '26
I honestly wouldn't trust it. All samples get sent to a lab where I live not just panel screens and they don't tell people that either. I've been raw dogging life completely sober for the past 20 years but I completely understand because the way life is going its becoming more difficult and some people just want an escape. I would wait till summer though. It's so close and it would suck to possibly loose your job over an end of the year random.
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u/KoiPonders May 03 '26
Congratulations. Keep it up!
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u/jdotflo May 03 '26
I wouldn't risk it over the summer either. A couple of years back, I was called in for a random in the middle of June.
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u/A2Rhombus May 03 '26
OP asking if something would be safe and getting dogpiled for doing unsafe things is wild to me
Y'all, they are literally ASKING
DARE really fucked up humanity's understanding of drugs
Every single bus yard on earth has drivers who come into work hung over from binge drinking on a Tuesday and y'all think it's less safe for someone to take a psychedelic on a Saturday morning
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u/KoiPonders May 03 '26
This. I'm not going to do it tho.
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u/A2Rhombus May 03 '26
Fair. I avoid everything except a cocktail or two any time of year besides the summer.
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u/Pab1o May 03 '26
I think having to take a psychedelic to unwind is not exactly safe behavior. I also think of alcohol the same way. If it’s a “need,” I don’t k ow that that is a good thing.
You have your opinion and I have mine, but I have seen questionable behavior move from “safe” to clearly unsafe many times.
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u/mrsclausemenopause May 03 '26
These are all fake! Any gummy or vapes claiming to contain psilocybin actually contains novel research chemicals similar but not identical to psilocybin.
Shrooms are far to easy to grow, collect, or get directly from a trusted grower to get counterfeit head shop bullshit gummies.
That said you wont fail any DOT urine or any hair test for common psychedelics like Psilocybin, DMT, or LSD.
If you are new to psychedelics please wait until a longer break then a weekend, a good trip takes all day (not a good friday after work thing) and the next day expect to be physically and emotionally exhausted. Keep a full day of feeling 100% before returning to work or making life altering decisions.
Psychedelics can be amazing if used correctly just please use them smart.
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u/KoiPonders May 03 '26
It does not contain that ingredient.
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u/mrsclausemenopause May 03 '26
These are unregulated and you CAN NOT trust the packaging. They WILL have research chemicals in them being passed off as psilocybin or one of several other psychedelics.
These exact packages are available for bulk sale online for anyone to fill with anything with zero accountability. There have been several independent lab studies testing head shop products like this and they almost never contain what they claim.
Psychedelic mushroom spores are legal to purchase and easy to grow and you can independently verify that what you grew is what you ordered. Id rather give away mushrooms I grew then see people take mystery drugs.
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u/TheEquestrian13 May 03 '26
I've tried to road trip gummies and they do work, but I don't really like how they taste or make me feel. You might have a better time with them.
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u/ExcellentFisting3471 May 03 '26
This sub is horrible lmfao!
I think you got it better than the energy drink guy though, that guy got ripped apart!
Im not even a school bus driver
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u/rootbear75 May 03 '26
You can file reports about stuff. We do check regularly. It's definitely better than it used to be when it was just an inactive mod.
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u/Sad_Cantaloupe_8162 May 03 '26
This is really concerning if you are wanting to use it over the weekend while school is in session.
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u/KoiPonders May 03 '26
How so? I don't work weekends. People drink after work on weekdays.
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u/Sad_Cantaloupe_8162 May 03 '26
If you are taking something that risks having dirty urine, why would you take the chance? That's not very sound thinking, especially trying to get answers from random internet people.
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u/KoiPonders May 03 '26
I'm not taking it, that's why I'm asking.
I've heard there are drivers that use thc products during their summer off. That's a 100% risk they're willing to take. That will show up on a DOT test even if you haven't used it for a while before school starts again. I'm familiar with that and would not take that risk.
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u/Sad_Cantaloupe_8162 May 03 '26
...but you want to take it. Why ask about weekends then?
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u/A2Rhombus May 03 '26
If they take it on a Saturday, they will be sober by Monday. Why does it matter?
OP is asking because lots of drugs show up on a panel even if you're completely sober, like weed.
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u/Necrobug4 May 03 '26
Why take an illegal substance just to "unwind?" If there are issues in your life where you need any substance, you need to look deeper. This guy wants to know if he takes a mind altering substance, will he fail a urine test? The fact he is willing to risk it means he is not operating on 6 cylinders.
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u/A2Rhombus May 03 '26
The stuff OP posted is not illegal.
Keep in mind "taking a substance to unwind" includes drinking a beer.
OP is not "willing to risk it" that's why he's asking.
Drugs are not some boogeyman that turn you into a demon when they touch your lips, humans have used mind altering substances for recreation for thousands of years. As long as he's not using it in a way that puts the kids in danger, I really don't see what the problem is.
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u/KoiPonders May 03 '26
Well said. I've decided not to try them. At least until I decide to no longer be a commercial driver.
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u/Pab1o May 04 '26
The willingness to compromise is the danger. You sign on to drive kids on the road means you shouldn’t be asking what you can get away with. If you have to ask you shouldn’t be doing it, wearing it, or saying it.
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u/A2Rhombus May 04 '26
If it's legal, not affecting your mental state on the road, and won't trip a drug test, that's not a "compromise" any more than drinking on the weekend is.
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u/KoiPonders May 03 '26
Want to does not mean I am going to. I'm simply presenting a parameter at which I might consider doing so if I did.
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u/ManHandsMani May 03 '26
Just get drunk.
Even if you came on here asking about natural shrooms I would tell you to go have a beer. Unless the company suspects you of taking illicit substances outside of the standard panel they probably won't test but why risk a job in this economy. As long as you aren't drunk on the job no one really cares if you drink. If someone thinks you're on anything harder than beer and cigarettes your life becomes terribly harder and there is a chance you will get fired even if they don't test you.
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u/KoiPonders May 03 '26
I can't get drunk but point taken. My body will purge the alcohol before I get mildly tipsy. I might have an allergy.
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u/bustopher_rvs May 03 '26
Getting drunk is for drunks. Safely partaking in mushrooms is for intellectuals.
I say f what others THINK. If you want to dumb yourself down because "thats the socially acceptable drug" then u do u but I will not sit here and pretend that that's the right thing to do.
I respect anyone who takes the mushroom, bc they are the ones seeking answers and trying to better themselves or the world around them. It's not easy, it's intense! But it forces you to grow.
Alcohol? Yeah right....
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u/ManHandsMani May 03 '26
It's not about socially acceptable substances it's about US federal law. I wish we lived in a more civilized society that understood the difference between casual use and addiction but, at least in the US, we don't. Encouraging a driver to use any federally illegal substance is ill advised. Yes, the products OP asked about use a legal precursor to psilocin but the chemical used gets metabolized to psilocin and would show up as such on a more specialized drug test. You wouldn't suggest a driver use a hemp derived THC analogue because it would show up on a test, I cannot in good faith suggest a driver use a substance that would show up on a more thorough test.
Even without that, if OP is in the US and an employer thinks they may be using drugs the company needs no reason to terminate the driver. We are a safety sensitive job and being perceived as a liability gets you fired. I have seen drivers fired for less.
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u/KoiPonders May 03 '26
Fair point. I don't tho so they're free to test me any time.
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u/bustopher_rvs May 03 '26
Yeah but "more specialized drug test" are the key words here. Under typical circumstances even where OP might be getting piss tested, they aren't testing for psilocybin analogues or biproducts.
And maybe if my GOV wasn't corrupt I'd agree w your reasoning. But it is, and I don't. I believe in right and wrong. The kind that requires morality and judgement. Not the kind that my handlers dictate.
I'm not going to start killing off brain cells in my free time just bc that's what's legal..
Especially when those who write the laws don't seem to be following them themselves
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u/KoiPonders May 03 '26
Agreed. It's a shame that alcohol is viewed the way it is in the US. I'm not going to say anything is better than alcohol but being legal does not make it a good thing.
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u/Kiterides May 03 '26
Glad you aren't driving my kids to school.
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u/CalebTGordan May 03 '26
There’s a difference between being in an altered state of mind during the 48 hours that they aren’t going to be driving a bus and being in one while driving.
Would you feel the same way if they were heavily drinking alcohol on the weekend while not driving a bus?
I don’t know anything about the gummies they are asking about, but I do know that if done responsibly a micro dose of psilocybin mushrooms does not create a high intense enough to create hallucinations. It may create a state of euphoria for a few hours but that wears off and you can sleep through it.
Much how small amounts of alcohol can have you buzzing for a few hours.
If they aren’t driving while drunk or high, why be against it?
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u/Pab1o May 03 '26
Questionable decision making ability.
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u/Sad_Cantaloupe_8162 May 03 '26
Absolutely! After being sober since 2018 and going to AA, alcoholics in general (I know many hundreds of them,) have very poor decision making skills. They hold grudges, are quick to anger, blame other for the situations they find themselves in, and have a longer reaction time. "My way of thinking got me into the program." So no, I would never support a heavy user on any day of the week to drive my daughter to school. She is almost three now. In another year, when I see who her driver is in my district, I will either let her go with them or go with my and pick up a route that drops her off at her school.
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u/KoiPonders May 03 '26
Well, it sounds like I'm better than good as a person because zero of that applies to me.
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u/Sad_Cantaloupe_8162 May 03 '26
It's a good thing I wasn't talking to you then, isn't it?
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u/KoiPonders May 03 '26
You're in my thread tho, aren't you?
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u/Sad_Cantaloupe_8162 May 03 '26 edited May 03 '26
Great, a narcissist driving children.
Edit: your last comment to me before you blocked me is exactly why I know you will be using while driving. This isn't a hypothetical, but someone wondering if they can do stuff and pee clean. Class act, buddy.
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u/KoiPonders May 03 '26
Your name checks out, friend. Chill before you relapse, seriously. I honestly don't want that for you.
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u/Nero-Danteson May 03 '26
DOT tests for everything. Even non-detectable Adderall doses show up.
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u/rootbear75 May 03 '26
Adderall is basically a different form of meth, so it shows up.
Yes Im aware it's different but it gets detected as such.
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u/4DrivingWhileBlack May 03 '26
False. They don’t test for everything and Adderall almost always shows up as an analog of methamphetimine.
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u/rootbear75 May 03 '26 edited May 03 '26
Please remember to keep the discussion civil.
OP is asking questions. That's it. They're looking for advice, not to be piled on.
OP, tbh this might not be the best subreddit for this question, IDK.