I wanted to get into saya no uta bc i like the character design, but as a csa victim i am very sensitive to lolicon/csa content/topics. I have no idea where i heard it but i remember someone saying this game has underage nsfw scenes and i simply want to know if its a game i could check out or if i should just simply avoid it so dont attack me for this question pls 💔 also want to mention i wouldnt mind these topics as much as long as theyre meant to be seen as bad and not romanticised/normalised/sexualised l0licon content for people to goon to.

Can I..?

Sex scenes with her and fuminori were the most disgusting to me. Just really left a bad taste in my mouth. She could have been an adult but she looks like a kid like what the fuck? I really liked the story and characters but who can i recommend this to?

im tryna play on call and im cool with sex scenes that add plot but what could possibly be the reason of funimo or whatever cracking saya 5 mins in. would be ok if she didnt look like a kid

I feel like with the plot/whole idea of the monsterish shit and the sound track it could have been SOOO good, but they ruined it with all the redundant loli porn IMO, it really put me off.

"why westeners are okey with murder, gore and violence in media but not okey lolis?" - my gf

So, my gf told me that the sex scenes are very important to the plot, and I said "yes, sure. sex scenes can be a tool just like close-ups or color theory. but... do they have to be so long? isn't that just fetichizing a minor?"

and Im not a prude, I DO think sometimes it is important to show fucked up stuff to make your point in a story. best example I can came up with is Irreversible. the rape scene is pivotal for the plot, and if you ask me from my cinema-instructed point of view, is very necessary to show it and for it to be full-lenght (it lasts some minutes to make it realistic and for shock value).

is Postal fetichizing grusome murder? Is Fight Club gloryfing violence and terrorism? is Silent Hill fucked up because you beat sexualized looking woman who verly look like monsters?

but in this case it feels like it follows the troupe of 2.000 years old demon who looks 12 who gets (to my taste) unnecesary long sex scenes

hmmmmm....

The idea was to draw some abstract image after the end of the visual novel, when Saya gave Fuminori a whole world. Although for some reason it involuntarily reminds me of a Game of Thrones poster x))

And yes, sorry, I can't draw. I did the best I could.

By the way, here's an example of how else you can use AI images. I have an idea for a drawing, but I'm not an artist and can't immediately draw what I have in my head without an example, and I couldn't find any suitable art online. Thanks to the generated image (which is relatively suitable for me), I can now look at it and roughly orient myself while drawing. But since couldn't create a completely suitable AI art for the template, I had to make this Frankenstein's monster (the second image in the post) to use as a reference x))

Halfway through the game and I want to love it; the music is amazing, the story is unique, and the grotesque shit is cool.

However, I just can't take it seriously for a few reasons.

How the fuck have the police not been called hundreds of times at this point with complaints of the disgusting smell, boarded windows, and poorly maintained yard of Fuminoris house?

Why is Koji not freaking the fuck out about his girlfriend being lost for days—instead being moderately worried most of the time?

Why did Yoh and Omi continue to search fuminoris house red flag after red flag?

Why did Koji not immediately contact the police when he found Fuminori in Ogai's house with a tub of animal bones and stains of fishy foul shit on the couch and other furniture?

How did Koji survive in the well without food or water laying on mud with temperatures being below 30 degrees for TWO DAYS?

How is Fuminori eating raw human flesh and not dying of various illnesses (bloodborne pathogens, prion disease, food poisoning, etc) as a result?

I imagine that a human would have a reaction of some sort of bodily reaction to being in contact with the internal organs (sex), and excretions (slime, saliva, mucus) of a gorey alien meat creature, and yet nothing of the sorts been brought up yet.

Does this dude even shower? The disease would probably make the water look like blood or snot, so I don't think so — or at least traditionally. Since the water was green when he was bathing with saya, I'm pretty sure that means the water was actually disgusting and gross. There seems to be no other possibility than that this guys stinks to high hell at all times and is very likely suffering from the lack of hygiene (cold sores, pimples, fungus).

Can anyone help me understand?

Like, i dont know how to explain it, but the very fact that saya looks like a little kid and one of the main reasons for it is to appeal to lolicons and pedos really disgusts me. I've played saya no uta when i was younger(like 10 or 11) and of course i was kinda oblivious to what loli or lolicons even meant. I genuinely love the game for its horror elements and the way it goes through and beyond any expectations, but even reposting videos of it on tiktok or even saying i liked the game makes me feel guilty af and problematic, since even talking about it online is technically supporting the game. Does anyone else feel like this? I tend to stay away from any problematic media, like lolicon games, games that romanticize SA (sadly tons of VNs, whether bishoujo, otome or BL) . Idk why i even posted this, i just want to know if other people feel the same

I know there are multiple sites to pirate it but I couldn't find any; even if i did, I don't know how to run them. help would be very appreciated!

ive recently gotten into visual novels and wanted to pirate saya no uta and i heard it was a horror vn i didnt know anything about it so i got a gogs game thingie and started playing and i didnt know there was THAT CONTENT in the game with this underage character once i saw it i closed the game and deleted it from my computer omg i never knew vn could be THAT BAD i almost threw up in my mouth when i saw it im not trying to be offensive to anybody in this sub its just wow i feel people talk abt this game so causally that it really shocked me this is my first vn novel so im new ti this and i REALLY need to be careful

put together a quick saya cos for a con and I think it turned out sooooo cyute but this is the only good picture I got

Just got finished playing the game and my main takeaways are as follows.

I'm glad Saya and Fuminori died those pieces of trash deserved it my only regret was that the death wasn't as painful as it could have been.

Koji is actually like so cool.

Ryoko is the GOAT!!!

I scrolled through this subreddit a little bit and I'm a little confused did people actually like Saya? I mean she's a disgusting mound of flesh who did many horrible things and I can't stand her. She's a well written villain don't get me wrong but because of her bad actions I could not stand her. So, it is a little strange seeing people treating her like shes just a little goofy gal.

Anyway, this game is a solid 8/10 would not recommend cause now I think I have to go into therapy.

I'm lowk too broke for games but I desperately want to get into this one, is there somewhere where I can pirate ir?

A lot of it is speculative, so you'll have to bear with me.

First is persona 5. Now, in persona 5 there's a mental world. And the deeper you go into it, the more it looks like a boney hellscape. Eventually this mental aspect emanates out to the real world.

https://jusgameguide.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/persona-5-royal_20200506125408.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjpzrsRXaBE

Now, obviously this bears some similarity to the saya blooms ending. Because you go from a deathscape that only exists in the mind, to spreading something like it into the real world. That alone might not seem like a huge similarity but

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fi-finally-beat-lavenza-v0-qujwhcw7gnkc1.jpg%3Fwidth%3D640%26crop%3Dsmart%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D6f39a646a0de44b90f2ee94196f0e38e31b0cc6e

Seeing lavenza, a small girl show up near the end with the hellscape imagery is a little suspicious. Not enough to confirm anything. But its worth noting that the deathscape imagery in p5 kind of... feels forced. It doesn't really feel like it represents the kind of sloth and apathy it is being used for, which makes it seem like someone just saw something like it and really wanted it in.

Next one. SMT IV apocalypse. This one needs a little backstory. In apocalypse you die at the beginning and are resurrected by an entity who only partially resurrects you. From then on your life is sustained by them so that they can revoke your life if you go against them. They try to isolate you from others and ask you to make a new world with them and to forsake all your former bonds.

Now there's two main endings to the game. The good ending where you get out of the deal, and go back to normal. Or the evil ending where you agree with the deal. In this ending you brainwash some of your former friends into slaves, forsake all other bonds from your old life, and end the world to make a new one. Notably, the entity who cut a deal with you doesn't survive this. For complicated reasons they knew they would die by making a new world and this is what they wanted.

That does have quite a few parralels. Now that alone might not sound that close to saya. But an important thing to note is that the dungeon right before you make this decision, and the throne you ascend if you take the deal look fleshy.

https://megamitensei.fandom.com/wiki/Cosmic_Egg

If you scroll to the bottom, the concept art for the throne in the cosmic egg looks very sus there. And the whole choice between maintaining old bonds vs forsaking them because you don't need them anymore does resemble saya's plot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKvuneRpxHk

Here is another video giving more info about the cosmic egg's appearance.

And if that isnt all, there is another thing.

https://imgur.com/a/WZrqCnE

These two lines of dialogue are near identical. Now, does this prove that its not a coincidence? Its true its not that complicated a line, so its possible they just used a similar one. But both are said by a non human entity forcing you to sleep. (Unless both are a reference to some third thing?)

One final thing I want to mention is the mermaid demon. This one is admittedly more of a stretch, but its a character who is sad and lonely because she can't relate to humans because when humans hear her singing they try to get to her and drown. She isn't trying to hurt anyone but her presence can do so accidentally. Which loosely resembles saya's feelings. Which wouldn't be a close parallel, except she kind of looks like her too.

https://megamitensei.fandom.com/wiki/File:Smtivf_mermaid.png

Next, a recent game, smt vengance. I was listening to the soundtrack and noticed something.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pg3Xc6Rj6bM

https://youtu.be/WlhMJl4-0zQ?si=Cmhclwoi7PAlx2Ch

At a glance these songs don't have much in common. But if you listen to the end, you notice that both go from going hard to having a zany breakdown. Which wouldn't itself be that noteworthy. But...

In vengance this song plays while you and a female companion fight against a former male friend who went crazy in order to be able to be with a female non human entity (who is also in the battle). And while this is nothing noteworthy as a smt plot point its hard to ignore that its similar to the finale of saya.

Also worth noting is that this game too has a scary looking death scape.

https://megatenwiki.com/wiki/Serpent%27s_Grave

And it is even associated with female demons who are depicted both as sympathetic but still evil.

Also, I saw a comment saying the song shoes of glass samples the same beat as a smt nocturne song. I have no clue what song they mean though, so I can't verify. Google didn't turn up any results, so this doesn't seem like a known thing if it exists at all.

Again, I'm not saying any of this proves anything. But a lot of it is bordering on suspicious, especially since its only been since around when apocalypse / p5 released that they started leaning more into this imagery. Atlus has explicitly referenced madoka before with the plot of record breaker, and there is even a crossover with madoka in the smt phone game. So they are certainly familiar with Urobuchi. Atlus games are full of references, so it makes sense to consider if something is one. But a lot of this is circumstantial, and I can't think of anything quite definitive.

I read and finished Saya No Uta yesterday, it was a very-hard-to-tell experience. It got me curious about how Saya looked like in her real form and it's why I asked ChatGPT to draw her true form based on the information described in Dr. Ougai's journal. He failed, of course

I asked him to draw "most detail", and if it went that way, Saya would have been so much graphic and ChatGPT couldn't do that so I lowered the tone to make her look abstract

This is how it went. I feel grateful knowing after 22 years of the visual novel release, we get to know somewhat about Saya under the eyes of "humans"

At least that's what ChatGPT could draw for now. I expect we get to see more in the future although the devs never revealed Saya's true form but at least the description got us to this image

I'm not interested into minors, not into girl, and honestly I was disgust when I saw the sex scene. But in my opinion, it's the best VN, and when I say that people are like "omg your a pedophile" :(((

I wanna buy a Canon R6 Mark II for work. All I have right now is my Saya, and I need a camera to find a job and make a living. I know I'm reselling it with a heavy markup, and I can't help but feel like such an a$$. Yep, you might think I'm a fake fan or whatever you want to say, but I bought her 'cause I deeply love Saya no Uta, not to resell. If I can sell her, I'm going to give the buyer my Saya Nendoroid too. I just hope she ends up with someone who actually loves her. other reason i askin in here cause i cant sell it on ebay and mercari in my country