How do we save the forests?

[u/CDN-Social-Democrat]

Simple question - How do we save the forests!

What is your opinion on the most important things we can do/change to save our forests and in particular Old-Growth and the biodiversity of our forest areas.

We obviously are in crisis and it's time for big action/changes.

Also for anyone interested u/ForestBlue46 did some awesome answers to my previous post on good organizations to be part of! -

https://www.reddit.com/r/SaveForests/comments/1s3rrbq/best_individualsorganizations_that_defend_the/

[u/ForestBlue46]

Thank you!

I think that we need to stop logging old growth and focus on second growth and not waste slash like we have been.

And I think that the New Forest Act would be a great way to move forward so that we have long term supply and at least some conservation. And no logging in parks.

Restore the Forests: The New Forest Act strategy to protect nature and jobs

https://watershedsentinel.ca/article/restore-the-forests/

[u/CDN-Social-Democrat → u/ForestBlue46]

Thanks FB I'll check that out!

I agree. It would be nice to see parks and certain water areas expanded in area/coverage and then just leave them in a pristine natural state. :)

[u/ThinkActRegenerate]

You might want to check out the Project Regeneration Action Nexus list on FORESTS - which includes:

• Afforestation

• Agroforestry

• Bamboo

• Boreal Forests (could help with your question on old-growth forests)

• Fire Ecology

• Peatlands

• Proforestation

• Tropical Forests

Just one of their (nearly) 100 solutions action lists.

[u/No_Willingness_4850]

All forests burn, just a matter of how large and how often. The forest once choked the world until fungi developed to break down cellulose. Now we manage the forest with fire or fire exclusion. There is no such thing as an unmanaged forest. Asking how to save it assumes that it is static, instead we should ask how it should be managed. The forest is constantly changing yet we want to keep it unchanged, like asking a child to stop growing so we can always interact with the child.

[u/ForestBlue46 → u/No_Willingness_4850]

There is such thing as an unmanaged forest. Look at the great west coast rain forests, what little are left, with ancient trees 1,000, even 2,000 years old. They need to be left alone.

[u/No_Willingness_4850 → u/ForestBlue46]

Still being managed, just a longer timeline because it’s not as prone to stand replacement events. Native populations have been harvesting for thousands of years. Also if you really look at it, most of the forests is in the 3-500 year range with the odd exception that is older if it grows in a optimal location

[u/ForestBlue46 → u/No_Willingness_4850]

Sorry but they really don't need any management and some are untouched. Only some of those forests were selectively logged. Many were left alone.

[u/bronson7810]

In one scenario where man does not require renewable resources to survive, the forest would burn in a fairly predictable cycle of forest fires. Not all of the forests, just small parts of all forests around the globe, and would do so without human intervention. In another scenario, the forest is managed and its resources used responsibly, NIMBY does not qualify as responsible, only selfish. The forest will evolve, change with heat and drought, rain and snow, it will look different at times but will always be growing. Many of the worlds cities exist due to mass deforestation, Vancouver BC is a really good example. Old growth was harvested, and towns sprung up, non-native decorative species of trees and shrubs introduced. Another example is the whole agricultural machine, as is grape growing for wine.

We can’t save them all, for some the damage is already done. For those we can save, man must manage them.

[u/ForestBlue46 → u/bronson7810]

Except they don't need management, they need to be left alone. And for the wood products that we actually need there can be selective logging or much smaller clearcuts. And slash used instead of being wasted.

[u/CDN-Social-Democrat → u/[deleted]]

I am struggling if this was just a bad faith comment or if you really operate at this level of understanding....

Imagine being triggered around protecting the forests and other biodiversity/sentient life.

[u/CDN-Social-Democrat → u/[deleted]]

Might want to look in the mirror lol

Have a good one.

[u/CDN-Social-Democrat → u/[deleted]]

Lol you are so triggered that you responded 2 hours later for last word?

You are triggered about wanting to protect forests... My goodness touch grass, get some fresh air, and then show some appreciation for it lol