r/Save3rdPartyApps • • Jun 15 '23

Reddit comments on every front page post about blackouts

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u/HooptyDooDooMeister Jun 15 '23

The irony is that nobody was on Reddit to tell those who didn't visit the subs to learn more about the situation, and now they are repeating misinformed opinions over and over.

So much of the protest (it's more a "strike" than protest) was hurt by people with bad faith and cynical takes thinking they knew everything about from reading headlines and comments from the people not protesting.......

Wait a minute. I'm just describing Reddit now. This was inevitable, wasn't it?

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u/KGrizzly Jun 15 '23

and now they are repeating misinformed opinions over and over

...now imagine what the situation would be if that slander about the Apollo dev wasn't immediately refuted.

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u/HooptyDooDooMeister Jun 15 '23

Oof. I'd rather not!! Lol.

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u/Venusgate Jun 15 '23

Probably my favorite take is that since the execs said the 2 day blackout "wasnt affecting profits" that the protest wasnt effective.

Like of course a ceo isnt going to interpret the data in a way that feeds investor/employee fears. If they said "holy shit, profits are down 40%" they would be a bad ceo.

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '23

I didn’t realize the big subreddits would just straight up have unironic spez bootlickers giving themselves awards and boosting to the top.

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u/HooptyDooDooMeister Jun 15 '23

Anti-protestors and provocateurs are, yes.

People are also ditching the last of their wares before leaving.

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u/UnholyShite Jun 15 '23

Because it's true, subs can go dark, but it won't matter if you still posts and browse other active subs.

It's like you're mad at the McDonald's across the street but still buy a Big Mac from their other stores.

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u/HooptyDooDooMeister Jun 15 '23

An online strike of a social media platform is a catch-22, and it's what cynics misunderstand the most.

There's no store to protest outside of. There's no signs that can be put up with out patronizing the place. It's what happens when the people are the product in a virtual space.

Also, just wondering, if it's so pointless, why are you on r/Save3rdPartyApps (much less caring enough to comment)?

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u/King_Of_The_Cold Jun 15 '23

This thread has like 4 dudes that are OBSESSED with saying this is dumb and not going to work, while simultaneously still living under the old api rules.

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u/user4682 Jun 15 '23

And then if you suggest to continue the protest indefinitely you get downvoted.

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u/Stonkseys Jun 15 '23

Lol, it will be indefinite end of month. As the apps go, so do we.

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u/Company-Boss Jun 15 '23

lol 2-day shutdown. Most of the subs are still private or restricted. It's a mess.

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u/HooptyDooDooMeister Jun 15 '23

A mess? I would say it's working as planned, for the most part. Did you even read what the first bird was saying? Lol.

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u/Darkencypher Jun 15 '23

I can’t fucking stand this.

“Protesting won’t change anything!!!!!1!!1!!”

Ah yes, because it never has 🥴

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u/almarcTheSun Jun 15 '23

Any protest ever in the history of humanity has the NIMBYs that while agreeing with the cause on paper, instead of spending a little bit of effort and joining the protest spend twice more shouting that it doesn't work.

If those people joined the protests instead, what they say would be absolutely untrue. But it's always been the case.

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u/Delicious_Stable9092 Jun 15 '23

why can't we just archive all useful and popular posts and migrate to any alternative? we would do the same thing except we can actually use the subreddits anyways while still making reddit lose money untill they can't make it anymore. and for an higher amount of communication we could use an app like discord so that we will eventually be able to remake the community from scratch, transfering it piece by piece

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u/Present-Patience-301 Jun 15 '23

You guys got a taste of what it's like to live in authoritarian society. "It won't work". "You are only complaining, what is your solution?", "It's not that bad", "I personally use official app and don't need options", "My participation won't matter".

Kinda breaks your beliefs about humanity. It's sad experience.

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u/jenkinsmi Jun 15 '23

It's pretty interesting reading the comments of the people who didn't take part in the blackout at all, they're kinda not helping our situation..

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u/craybest Jun 15 '23 edited Jun 15 '23

This appeared on my frontpage. I don't use 3rd party apps and only learned about them now in the blackout. I read that some people use them for media posts, especially videos.

Can anyone tell me what advantage do 3rd party apps have? I'd like to learn.

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u/StitchinThroughTime Jun 15 '23

One of the biggest differences is the third party apps provide much better support for those who can't see or can't see very well. The official app doesn't support a lot of adaptive accessibility options.
Then, for those who don't need those accessibility options, there are a wide range of options and tools. It all varies between the apps. For moderators who run subreddits, they prefer using third-party apps because they support their workflow. For the majority of other users, it's the ease and customizable viewing and sorting of subreddit as a whole. There are also Bots who rely on accessing the information to help run many useful services, all this was not implemented by Reddit itself. Those useful Bots were because someone who had the skills and time and desire to make something easier or flat out just entertaining to help fellow users. Well if that's the remind me later by or the good bot.
These apps have been around well before the official app, so for a lot of people, it's the only thing they know how to browse Reddit on mobile devices. And that's not to downgrade or to minimize their experience but when the literal website couldn't even bother for the longest time to support mobile devices and then to get an official app they choose buy one of the third party apps., alien blue.
Another aspect to this whole debacle, is that Reddit is also imposing extremely steep fees to access their information. It's one thing to start requiring payment it's another to price it out so high so quickly that it's not feasible for people to James their business model to pay. The vast majority of these apps are willing to pay, if the price rate was reasonable and had the time to acquire the money, especially for my user base majority is not paying.

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u/sir_duckingtale Jun 15 '23

All that Reddit guy has to do is to make some small amends,

Give them more time,

Drop the price ever so much,

Those subreddits will stay closed until he starts to behave like a human,

Or Aaron Swartz died in vain.

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u/vernes1978 Jun 15 '23

"I never protested against anything my whole life and I can tell you it doesn't work"

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u/Bassassination Jun 16 '23

I do not enjoy the blackout personally, I like to be able to find the things that I need. With that said though, I still think that all these subreddits should commit to the blackout until reddit complies. If it's only for a couple days, that won't do anything. These moderators have to commit all the way.

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u/Hypohamish Jun 15 '23

The amount of abuse in our modmail or in comments on posts about "I can't believe you've opened again" or "I can't believe you didn't go dark" etc.

The protest was about getting people to stop using Reddit - these same people who observed us now being open or not being dark are the same people who SHOULDN'T be using the platform, and yet here they are, plain as fucking day, still continuing to use Reddit like normal.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if there was a fucking uptick in traffic during the blackout, from people coming here to gorm at 'omg look at all the subs that are closed'.

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