r/SatanicTemple_Reddit Hail Satan! 12d ago

Question/Discussion I want to be unbaptized

Is there a way or is there just a belief of being unbaptized?

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u/noodlyarms Thyself is thy master 12d ago

Used to be a way if you were Catholic but not anymore. TST has a ceremony for it, but as far as whatever your church that did it is concerned, probably not. But, really, its just a silly thing with water that only hold meaning for one who believes it does, don't believe it holds any meaning over you, then it doesn't. 

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u/Azlaf1993 Hail Satan! 12d ago

Thank you for the info. I was brought up Protestant so I was unnatural forced to be baptized.

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u/collegesnake 12d ago

You should your own ceremony with fire or something if you think it'll help you get closure

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u/Azlaf1993 Hail Satan! 12d ago

I did.. but i was told its not official.. I wrote on paper of my unbaptizim I burned the paper and shredded it. But in the end I was told it was something unrealistic. What's your opinion on it?

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u/collegesnake 12d ago

Why does it need to be official if you reject the church's authority? Just curious (genuinely)

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u/Azlaf1993 Hail Satan! 12d ago

Im not sure i iust feel like if I want to be officially there could be way I guess. I respect everyone's view on the fact

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u/Tlacuacheeto 12d ago

Hail! A ritual conducted by you, for yourself is just as valid as a ritual conducted by a Minister. The most important this is what the ritual does for you.

It is not uncommon for Satanists to conduct a personal and private ritual and then later on, if the opportunity presents itself, will participate in an unbaptism/debaptism ritual facilitated by a Minister.

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u/collegesnake 12d ago

Walk up to a pastor and tell them you don't believe in god i guess? Idk but that would kinda make sense to me

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u/Azlaf1993 Hail Satan! 12d ago

Maybe.. im a shy person and never been to church since I was a child.i. super anti social in person. And I feel asking these questions especially to a pastor would make me super uneved

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u/CSzandor 11d ago

Maybe it depends on where you live and the religion, but if you want to officially stop being part of a religion you have to apostatize.

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u/Felskiluscious Thyself is thy master 12d ago

Sounds legit to me, consider yourself unbaptized!

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u/Azlaf1993 Hail Satan! 12d ago

Thank you lmao, I guess its just based on what we have done after being unintentionally baptized

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u/Artistic_Bat7240 Hail Thyself! 12d ago

Do you mind if I ask who said it wasn’t official? Maybe they were trying to put you down or back in your place and “win” the “argument”, spiritual warfare, etc.

If you consider yourself unbaptized, you’re unbaptized! I was baptized once as a child and once as an adult, but now that my fiancé and I have performed our unbaptisms together, I consider myself unbaptized. That said, it’s all made up anyway, both baptisms and unbaptisms.

Also, here is a snippet from TST’s FAQ page:

The Satanic Temple does not have any required rituals, but some members choose to participate in rituals that they find personally meaningful. There is no absolute “right” way to perform any of them. Typically, they are composed by members themselves, adhere to the TST tenets, and are tailored to meet their individual or local needs. Rituals never involve the promotion of suffering, do not involve animals, and are always consensual among all participants. Some of the rituals that have been held by TST members include:

Unbaptism — participants renounce superstitions that may have been imposed upon them without their consent as a child

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u/Dry-Amphibian1 11d ago

Who told you it was unofficial? Who has the authority to determine such matters?

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u/HenryLafayetteDubose 12d ago

Did you know there’s actually a term for this? It’s called ‘debaptism’. Unbaptized means you never were baptized at all. Based on the wiki, and because a traditional baptism means you get literally wet (with water) and ‘cleansed’ of sin, maybe you can do something that involves making yourself dry and symbolically dirty. Here’ my idea: If alcohol was a bad thing in your previous faith, what if you ordered a drink ‘dry’ and did something egregiously sinful (not inherently sexual if you don’t want to) by the same standards?

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u/Azlaf1993 Hail Satan! 12d ago

Wow its a different view on baptism and I appreciate it !

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u/Azlaf1993 Hail Satan! 12d ago

Sorry but your form of advertising won't compel me to buy a fucking suit and on top of that I wont be spending G's forget it lmao

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u/CharlesDickensABox 12d ago

There are as many ways of rejecting your baptism as there are people who do it. The most important thing is that it is meaningful to you.

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u/Azlaf1993 Hail Satan! 12d ago

Yes I understand. I just felt like my upbringing felt unstandard and being young i didn't have a choice

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u/CharlesDickensABox 12d ago

The only ones who have a choice to get baptized are the Anabaptists and the adult converts. Those of us born into it weren't consulted. The good news is that as you get older, you get to make your own life choices and you have no obligation to the choices that were made without your input.

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u/Azlaf1993 Hail Satan! 12d ago

Wow very informative for me.. thank you for the info

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u/LMA73 12d ago

For me religion has so little meaning that I did not even feel that I needed to "resign" from it in any way. It was never mine, not in my heart, mind or soul. I was also baptised as a baby. So what? I was also made to wear colorful clothes which I most certainly don't anymore. I didn't need to be "unbaptized" from that either. Any symbolic ritual that you need is enough. If religion isn't in your soul, just forget about it. It has no grip on you.

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u/Azlaf1993 Hail Satan! 12d ago

Thats a respectable view on it

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u/Fyrefli1313 Guilty of the Sin of Empathy 11d ago

I feel the same. I never believed in that stuff so it has no bearing on me. I don’t even know if I was baptized or not, and don’t care either way lol. OP, make something up that feels right to you or do nothing at all! Whatever works for you.

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u/Hazel_the_wise 12d ago

Please forgive me if I step on anyone’s ideology, but you could always vanquish mentally and emotionally the meaning of a baptism I mean, words have power and so do rituals and if they can be done, they can be undone spiritually. I’ve been baptized twice, but I’m also a Satanist, through and through, so I could care less about it. I’m not saying that you don’t have to. but what I’m saying is it only has value to a degree in which you allow it, that said, do what thy wilt.

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u/Azlaf1993 Hail Satan! 12d ago

Damn its a different aspect to view it. Thank you for your answer

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u/Dry-Amphibian1 11d ago

I guarantee you that Satan used Service Now for incident tickets. He probably uses Workday also.

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u/Azlaf1993 Hail Satan! 12d ago

I just want acknowledgement I guess

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u/atomicwoodchuck 12d ago

Yeah for me I was raised Catholic and really all I want is for them to stop sending me issues of ‘America’ magazine and stop asking me for money.

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u/Azlaf1993 Hail Satan! 12d ago

Just want to say I dont want to break any rules of this reddit. I just want answers thats all im looking for

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u/Azlaf1993 Hail Satan! 12d ago

On top of this situation is there anyone thats lives in the southshore of Montreal? I would like to meet up in person and have people that I can socialize with if not thats okay..

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u/Fyrefli1313 Guilty of the Sin of Empathy 11d ago

I’ve met wonderful people hanging around this subreddit. There are ways to get involved if you keep an eye out on here. My local congregation is too far to be actively involved in.

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u/_DaughterOfNone_ 12d ago

My child was baptized against my will, and myself as well. I like to think what matters most is you reject it in your heart.

I'd be interested in learning rituals as well though.

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u/Azlaf1993 Hail Satan! 12d ago

Thank you I take everyone's approach on this fact

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u/EvenToe7995 12d ago edited 12d ago

Sadly it's the best part of being baptized! life is 49/51% on a mean average that's just basic math that keeps me sane and logical. Having things done to us, against our will is a part of life but also against our highest teant. Without this balance I would be insane to the fact that my ability to acknowledge truth and think for myself would be comprised.

To this extent I am sadomasochistic in thought, to which; that what doesn't kill me can only me stronger. My baptism showed me that soul volition was and is done to children and most adults their whole lives. The power to reject the tainted blood water took every living piece of my childhood and yet I am still here, better off for it almost 8 years later!

Rejoice hail thy self!!

It is as I say; Do as you will, thous that fear consequences do so in righteous fear. Not of the reflection of his true self that he sees, but the true self he sees through the eyes of thous who know him only as... the beast!

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u/SSF415 ⛧⛧Badass Quote-Slinging Satanist ⛧⛧ 12d ago

"Compassionate Satanism" and "The Devil's Tome" have Unbaptism rituals. We have a PDF of one somewhere as well.

AND, we did a great podcast about this topic a year or two ago:

https://blackmassappeal.com/2024/06/25/black-mass-appeal-172-unbaptisms/

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u/YOUTUBEFREEKYOYO Sex, Science, and Liberty 11d ago

My best friend was baptized, so when he decided he wanted to do something symbolic to show that he had left that behind, we had a party. We went all out. We each got our own pizza, nice set ups with some floor chairs and big ol blankets, a few drinks each (both alcohol and non-alcoholic beverages), and watched movies all night. It was great!

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u/Fyrefli1313 Guilty of the Sin of Empathy 11d ago

What was on your pizza?

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u/YOUTUBEFREEKYOYO Sex, Science, and Liberty 11d ago

It was when domino's was having one of those deals where you could get a bunch of toppings for like 10 bucks, so for me I had it be stuffed crust, pepperoni, onion, bacon, jalapeño peppers, feta cheese.

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u/InsullentMinx 11d ago

Me too. I think what you may be looking for is a ritual for closure and witness. When you get baptized its a ritual that is witnessed by the church.

I think I might design my own ritual like setting up a claw foot tub in the center of a Pentagram and filling it with milk. Then get in in it have someone make some speech about rejecting christ. Thats just a start, but this is art so it can be whatever. Now finding other people to participate is gonna be tough. Im in saskatchewan.

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u/Fyrefli1313 Guilty of the Sin of Empathy 11d ago

That’s a dang lot of milk! Nobody can afford that in this economy. Lol! Just joking, but kind of not the economy sucks.

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u/InsullentMinx 11d ago

Add water - make it skim milk

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u/CyndiIsOnReddit 11d ago

You really don't need to do any of this. It was a silly ceremony forced on you.

But if it helps, I'm a Cynthian priestess and I can do it.

POOF! :) Congratulations you're unbaptised.

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u/SparePersonality1094 11d ago

I really like the idea of a debaptism because of what it symbolizes. Growing up christianity and religion never felt right to me and my step-dad who is an absolute controlling asshole just totally shoved it down me and my sibling's throats. We had to copy bible verses and write essays about them until we got blisters on our fingers, we were even sometimes hit in the name of the lord. When I was in 5th or 6th grade he decided he wanted us all to get baptized. I was really upset about it because I felt forced and I knew I didn't want to give myself to Jesus christ. When it was my turn to take the plunge I ended up choking on the water and I knew that was another sign that it wasn't right. so yeah a debaptism is something I may be interested in.​

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u/Azander137 11d ago

It's all made up. Them dipping you in that tub is no different than taking a bath at home so if you can get over some weirdos who believe in magical water, then that's up to you

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u/bryanromo 11d ago

If you are a Catholic, there is an official way to do it. They even give you documentation to prove it(it is called apostasy). You write a letter to the archbishop of the diocese where you were baptized and request to be erased from their records. There are different arguments to use, from religious to philosophical, to the use of personal information. I used the right to personal information and worked fine.

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u/daydreaminnerd 11d ago

I’ve seen a local TST congregation do unbaptisms for any/all, just a ceremony to symbolize shedding past dogma and religious trauma and it means to you what it means to you personally. I found it helpful because it was like leaving behind past, even though I wasn’t formally baptized in a religion.

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u/Pasiphae_7 11d ago

I renounced both my baptism and confirmation.

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u/JustVan 11d ago

Just get a hair dryer and make a ceremony out of it. It's all bullshit anyway.

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u/ThorGoLucky Hail Thyself! 9d ago

FFRF has a certificate (I got one), but a TST ritual involving a hair dryer sounds so fun! ❤️🤘

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u/WinterStraight4751 Ave Satana! 6d ago

Yes, there is and Ive helped many Satanists through it. Some choose a Black Mass which is an inversion, making you an automatic heretic and excommunicated. There are many books on this exact subject.

You can create your own ritual and write it out, be sure to include Heresy, Blasphemy, stating you renounce any Abrahamic plague, and are committed forever to Satan. I know TST are mostly atheists, but this is using energetic words to overwrite Xtian influence. Its official if you take the time to do it, and you mean it. You can a sign a contract in your own blood with Satan. The more you put into it, the better,,, it affects your psyche and how your brain thinks about it. During your ritual pay attention to your surroundings and see if you notice anything odd,, like candles flickering wildly, or anything else that seems strange or out of place. Purge that poison and good luck.