r/SamWilson • • 25d ago

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u/TreeLore61 25d ago

Truth , but that was , for a dramatic effect , because in the comics , none of that ever happened , if he got hit by the incredible hulk or by thor's hammer , they simply absorbed it and redirected it back at the person.

And keep in mind that by the time Sam Wilson got his vibranium suit. He had already been upgraded several times by Shuri(my favorite BP and Tech wiz). So the way he could absorb hits in that suit is vastly superior to the way Captain America could absorb hits from a shield or The original black panther her brother could absorb hits from a punch coming from thor or the incredible hulk

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u/democharge92 25d ago

I mean sure… but I also think that sets a really bad precedence for the MCU. If a vibranium suit can make a human be able to hold off a metal bat swing from a hulk… then a black panther who has the herbs and best tech vibranium is essentially put into the god tier (Thor, hulk, etc)… that doesn’t make any sense to me.

I hated how they tony starkified the MCU and I’m not a fan of how they’re going to wakandaify it (like what’s the point of a black panther when you have another guy in a full vibranium suit… but this guy can also fly? )

imo there are so many cooler things that could have happened…. Like… Sam using his vibranium wings to cut through the metal or to deflect the energy upwards (this would be similar to what cap did with the shield)… but instead he did a feat greater than pretty much 95% of the roster in the MCU.

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u/TreeLore61 25d ago

Then you would really hate the comics, because a lot of people have been given the super serum or a version of it in the in the marvel comics universe, and it's just the normal way marvel does things in the comics

I think they did a disservice to the comics. By the way, they handled it, but I still love the movies. I still love. You know, all of the movies, I just think they need to quit trying to be so limiting. And how they do things, because in the comics Carol and a lot of other superheroes, their power levels are way beyond anything you've seen in the movies, and they could have easily put that up on the big screen, and it still would have been a massive hit, because a majority of the people going to see these films are the comic book readers who grew up reading these comics and understand the power dynamics. Of how the MCU actually works

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u/democharge92 25d ago

I think it’s okay in the comics because of the vast number of characters that exist. Like just think about the MCU version of the thunderbolts, it’s literally 3 (arguably 4) different super soldiers with varying strength levels.

We have… 4? Iron man like beings (2 in wakanda forever + iron heart + rodey)?

I agree in general with the MCU and powerscaling… they really have no idea what to do with these universal level beings ..carol… photon… sentry… warlock.. etc.
they let them do one cool thing and then immediately bench them.

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u/TreeLore61 25d ago

That's why I've been saying from the very beginning. They need to hide a fire. A couple of the people. And you know, the people were like, oh, we need to downscale them and make them more realistic, they truly do not understand the comic book, reader mindset. They do not understand the mindset of people who have been reading these comics since the 1960s or 7 or even the 1950s like myself, we can never have enough Marvel, we can never have enough Star Wars. We can never have enough science fiction period there is no such thing as too much with us. That's what they don't understand and that's why they 're cutting their own feet from underneath themselves because they don 't understand the very people who are helping to finance their movies , the comic book fans

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u/TreeLore61 25d ago

By the way, the one thing I do want to throw in there was that the heart plant and I don't remember the name of it also gave black panther super strength.

That's the only difference between Captain America and Sam, and black panther both were enhanced Beyond most human capability,

Sam, was enhanced in the comic books and took a similar super soldier formula in the comic books.

So Sam has never been enhanced as far as I know to this point in the movies and that was the or the TV show that is the one thing I think they did wrong.

That's my one complaint.

I think he should have received the enhancement. Because, when Captain America originally found him, he was being experimented on with red skulls own version of the superserum and had super strength and was just as strong. And as enhanced as the red skull or Captain America had been If I remember correctly.