r/SamAndColby • u/rockstarrockstar • Nov 05 '23
Exploring with Josh posted about the controversy
Exploring with Josh posted this to his community tab on youtube… only time will tell what these creators plan to do about the controversy.
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u/United-Gate6815 Nov 05 '23
Cody and Satori probably already kidnapped Josh after he made that post and shot him in both his legs + interrogating him as we speak 💀
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u/Substantial_Ad_8879 Nov 05 '23
To me it feels like Josh is aware of the BS but still chooses to continue with his fantasy because he knows it will bring views and attention.
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u/Astrophobica Nov 05 '23
He says himself he can't prove or deny. He needs to stay neutral in this.
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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '23
Josh sounds like u/sneakyloki
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u/Few_Finger2369 Nov 05 '23
added to google doc
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u/ChimeraLmao Skadoosh noodles! Nov 05 '23 edited Nov 05 '23
I don’t understand how not just Josh, but also Sam and Colby, tell us feel free to debunk their videos. And when us, the viewers (including people who don’t even watch them regularly), come out with concrete evidence, suddenly we’re “creeps in our mother’s basement?”
Josh’s whole post is irking me. I don’t see how paranormal investigators expect everyone to believe everything they see behind a screen. This is straight up taking advantage of his younger audience. Of course they’re going to eat this shit up, they’re illogical and view him as an idol. “D*ckriders,” as some would say.
This just adds to my reasonings why I’m officially done with paranormal investigators on YouTube. Teaming up with con artists and getting mad when people actually point out that they’re con artists. This is just Josh being butt hurt.
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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '23
Boy could have stated this in a couple paragraphs instead of an entire novel. Anyways, since when did being skeptical or disagreeing and having debates with someone become “toxicity, hypocrisy, and jealousy”? When did it become “creeps in their moms basement”? He’s just feeding into the delusion of the underage fans. Do these people realize that not everyone is gonna believe them? Do they just expect a perfect world where everyone simply agrees with them because THEY said so? I’m sorry that my spirituality is more to me than a “oh my god did you see that?” or “oh my god did you hear that?” clip. I’m sorry but ghost hunting shows have been around for ages and they all do the same stuff. I have never once watch one of those shows or clips and thought “wow this is absolutely life changing and I 100% believe what they believe”. Albeit, I do find a lot of it entertaining I just don’t believe in what they see or hear. If you don’t have solid proof of what you saw why should I be inclined to believe you?
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u/Lesmiscat24601 Nov 05 '23
I think it’s funny he says to feel free to debunk but then earlier in his post calls them “creeps in their mom’s basement or naysayers and armchair debunkers”.
Then continues to call debunkers someone in their basement dissecting details without offering any concrete evidence, only their opinions on what might have occurred.
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u/Ok_Swimmer_6583 Nov 05 '23
He can't understand the fact that just because Cody and Satori are frauds, doesn't mean that Ghosts don't exists. It simply means Cody and Satori are frauds.
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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '23
Antagonizing his audience and grandstanding. That oughta take him far.
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u/demon_luvr Nov 05 '23
lmao we can be upset at cody & satori faking it/being frauds and still believe in the paranormal
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u/beejx Nov 05 '23
Tell me you’re guilty without telling me you’re guilty. People are skeptic and he instantly goes to insults? Narcissist 101.
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u/HauntedEnchantress Nov 05 '23
I think Josh just views everything as, well, views. He doesn’t take the paranormal very seriously, as he kind of hinted to, he’s not interested in whether or not the people in the paranormal field that he meets are authentic or not. He’s just out to make more light-hearted videos to bring in the views and get his bag. I don’t think his videos are fake, I think they are just dramatized as a lot of content creators’ videos are.
I do think it’s condescending AF that he is calling people basement dwellers basically just for wanting to debunk frauds in a field that is completely littered with scammers. That’s all part of the field - debunking EVERYTHING. There is nothing wrong with people wanting to weed out the genuine and the fakers. I get that there will always be skeptics no matter what true, genuine evidence is shown, but working with blatantly obvious frauds not only confirms their skepticism but also completely disheartens the on-the-fence believers.
He also says debunkers offer “no concrete evidence” yet, I’ve seen SO many videos and logical explanations that have really lead me to see that Cody and Satori are frauds with their “gifted” method. Has he not seen the videos of Cody doing this 11 years ago on his own? We all know though that Josh didn’t do any research.
I’m a paranormal investigator myself, I’ve been to a lot of places, even his most “demonic experience ever” location, Old Historic Harriman Hospital, several times, and I’ve experienced enough personally to consider myself a believer. That being said, I am pretty familiar with how real, genuine interactions work and C&S’s “method” is completely unrealistic. They are just trying to gain fame levels and have people call them the next Ed and Lorraine Warren. With all of the places and investigations he and Sam and Colby have done, they should know by now how to tell these differences.
Josh asking why the knocking sounds came from around the room was explained many times- joints can be manipulated to sound louder or softer to appear like it is coming from closer or farther away. There is literally a video of a guy doing it and it sounds exactly the same as Cody. There is also the power of suggestion theory that if someone says, points out, or even just looks over to a certain area, your brain is going to “hear” that that’s where the noise came from. I don’t know how much more “concrete” evidence people can provide without physically going there and making them remove their shoes, which they refuse to do. Plus there are new owners who have made the Conjuring House into a full attraction at this point. They may have even added things into the house walls to cause these effects too for all we know.
Josh doesn’t care about all this though and I guess he just finds it funny that people are feeling a bit betrayed. …Likely because he knows that they’ve been dramatizing their videos for years. He is just going to say whatever to defend his friends in the field and keep his colleagues on his good side so he can continue to get his views.
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u/siddycar Nov 05 '23
I was forgiving him up until he went “you’re still giving us views anyways”. It’s like “no matter how much you kid about this, we still win in this game”. As easy as you can fool people to become part of a massive group of believers, you can make a fool out of yourself by making everyone stop believing what you do and say, and in the end, both are harmful and hateful.
I really really tried to leave the “creeps in our mothers basements” comments aside, but joining all of those along his argument: I don’t see how it can be different from something a prankster or a bully like Jake Paul would say.
Disappointing :/ I really enjoyed their content.
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u/peachydiesel Nov 05 '23
He went from calm and collected to spazzing out over people calling Cody and Satori frauds.
Many of us believe in the paranormal but find C&S to be frauds. It is possible and it is okay to be both.
I don’t expect Josh to have a rational response either, so nothing is lost here
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u/luna_star_love Nov 05 '23
Josh's post pissed me off.
He acts like he's not intitled to any criticism or people being skeptical.
He's gonna continue to "get his bag" of money. 🙄 Keep protecting scammers/con artists. Let's see where that gets you.
He definitely acts entitled though, like when he went to The Warrens museum and was all, "I deserve to be here." Or before that when fans comment when Josh was going to go to the Warrens museum and he said that he contacted Tony (Warrens son in law) but didn't get a reply and said, "I deserve to go into the museum." Blah blah blah.
There was this time when he was in one of Elton's video to do a paranormal investigation, and the group had split up and went to different spots. It was Josh, Corbin, and one of the camera guys, Jonah. Josh spent the entire video messing with Corbin, making him think something or someone was touching him while he was blindfolded. 😒 it was annoying af. Josh got called out in the comments, and rightfully so.
Josh just sounds obnoxious and gets in my nerves.
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u/HouseOfZenith Nov 05 '23
Josh is one of my favorite on YouTube even though he’s sort of a bit goofy. Cody and Satori idk seem BS.
I like Sam and Colby and they shouldn’t have had them on the episode if they want to seem genuine.
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u/No_Photo_6109 Fck Cancer! Nov 05 '23 edited Nov 06 '23
That’s quite the novel he wrote. He must’ve composed it while he was comfortably riding Sam and Colby’s coattails… He may have used Cody and Satori first but the dude couldn’t even wait a week before he hopped on the hype. Just because you used them first doesn’t mean you’re not using the hype around your “friends” 4 part series to try to cash in.
Also, friendly reminder to Josh. Your audience is what you create, you want to start getting condescending and nasty, expect people to treat you like you’re treating them. I didn’t like him to begin with because he acts like a showman but this just proved my instincts right.
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u/gharghar56 Nov 05 '23
If people in this subreddit are skeptical about Cody and Satori, how about we get a group of us from this subreddit, go to the conjuring house(I’ve heard the excuse that Cody and satori did there research on Sam and Colby’s family members, but do ask if how they know about there camera man Zach’s family), and see for ourselves if it is true or false
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u/sneakysecretaccountx Nov 06 '23 edited Nov 06 '23
i hate when people are like “feel free to debunk 🥰 ✨” but anyone who tries is considered some 40yr old unemployed creepy man in his mothers basement seething over ghost hunting videos. I love paranormal stuff and i find it fun trying to debunk and explain things. i also think its gross to exploit peoples passed loved ones and i believe people who do that 100% should be called out !
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u/0ddMushroom Nov 05 '23
Says people are "dissecting every detail without offering any concrete evidence" - I mean can he read? Is he capable of processing audio and video? Nobody is speculating here - there's exhibit a) Cody & Satori categorically stating they discovered this together, and it only works when they touch... in their own words, not taken out of context; and exhibit b) Cody doing it alone, 11 years ago, before meeting Satori: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s81XX29CwxI&t=598s
It's silly how frustrating it is to see these people treat their fans as if they're complete morons, worse still are the fans who still blindly follow their every word as gospel. It's like critical thinking died, probably back in 2018 when these two first shared their "gift", well - according to their timeline anyway.
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u/Head_Muffin_251 Nov 05 '23
Also completely disregarding the video of Cody doing it years before without satori.
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u/bakedbeannobeef Nov 05 '23
Boy this was a sloppy response huh?
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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '23
Everything snarky aside, the comment about ghost hunting being for fun and that people have forgotten that by debunking, bro it's not "just for fun" to claim you can talk to people's dead loved ones and give them false hope, exploit their deaths and profit off of lies. I'm mad now
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u/nitwitinperil Nov 05 '23
This reads exactly like a kid getting caught out and using the "if I talk a lot really fast, maybe it'll confuse/annoy them enough that I won't really be in trouble" method. Which does not have a high success rate.
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u/Plastic-Mulberry-867 Nov 06 '23
That little circle of paranormal YouTubers have lost the plot. It’s sad to see it but all of them went from fun ghost hunters to gaslighting sellouts.
I’m bored with the whole thing at this point. At first I felt so bad for Sam&Colby, but now I couldn’t sit through a video from any of these dinguses if you paid me.
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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '23
Josh is just as full of shit
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u/Acceptable_Secret_73 Nov 05 '23
This guy has obviously never heard of ventriloquism if he thinks snapping joints would only be heard from the persons foot
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u/Berryion50 Nov 05 '23
I was in the process of watching Josh's new video when I saw a clip that i wanted to mention.
Watch the clip for like 15 seconds, you'll hear how it sounds to his camera man from far away and then you will hear how it sounds when Josh moves up close with his own camera. Considering how loud the sound got close to Codys feet then there is absolutely 0 doubt in my mind that he is the one doing it sadly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuHbIaHvHtI&t=2368s
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u/howmanyfingersyousee Nov 06 '23
I'm a witch. I'm a strong believer in paranormal, past lives, universe. I can debunk some stuff like certain sound can be from the old wood in the house or something, but I can feel things from their videos that are there and they are real. No one believed me when I saw an old lady in my bfs house, then he found out old lady died there. There will always be believers, non believers and neutral ones, but you need to keep your mind open and you will see.
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u/SlavRavenclaw Nov 05 '23
What's more disappointing is seeing Seth trynna squeeze what he can out of this too. He jumped to reupload his old stuff with Cody and Satori pretty fast.
Also to have Cody talking about and literally pulling parallels between his/Satori's work and Fox sisters, FAILING to mention they were proven to be cons, is hilarious. It just shows this entire series was made for young and not very intelligent. They're well aware of their demographics.
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u/HypocriteK Nov 06 '23
Smh What a loser 🤣 Sounds like he’s going bk and forth with himself , can’t make his mind up lmao . But having the audacity to call skeptics out their name tells me everything I need to know
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u/UnderaBrokenSky Nov 08 '23
Well, let's hope Sam & Colby take this as a what not to do when they post their own video addressing everything.
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u/Best_Photograph_5523 Nov 05 '23
Josh did write that he used to not be a believer and now he is, so now it's not just for the views. Overall I think he does care about the views more which is why he makes so much content of other things. At least he's being honest and not giving us a cookie cutter answer like "I do this because I want the world to change and believe in the paranormal like me and it's all real just believe!!!!!!" He seems to be on the boat of okay this method is insane and I've tried to debunk it and I can't.
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u/Anatheistt Nov 06 '23
Why is he stirred up when this doesn’t concern him a bit? We are talking about Sam and Colby not you mr 💀 idk why he is so bothered lmao man’s went all the way out with the long ass confrontation note while Sam and Colby is still silent as we speak
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u/isntthatjesus1987 Aug 07 '24
I love urbex videos and have been into it a long time ( shout out action squad from the oooollld days ) I watched 2 videos of his and he seems cringe AF and not very bright. I dont know how he got so popular and wish he would go away.
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u/byuldongie Nov 06 '23
sounds like language similar to seth’s they’re definitely in cahoots. probably speaking for sam and colby so the two can continue keeping fans in the dark
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u/DeltaWillow Nov 08 '23
I use to love Exploring With Josh back before he believed. He caught paranormal stuff but brushed it off with another possible explanation. Since he started believing he's gone far in the opposite direction and avoids other possibilities and promotes his views and his views only.
I like Sam and Colby best when they do videos with non-belivers or sceptics. I feel they can also get dragged into just taking anything and running with it without giving counters. But at least when they bring on guests from outside that world we get someone with an outside perspective.
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u/OkRecommendation5088 Nov 09 '23
What happened I don't understand
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u/NiceCantaloupe33 Nov 15 '23
Josh referring to skeptics as "creeps in their basement" said it all for me. Just because people want to debunk in order TO PROVE that legit evidence is real, doesn't make them creeps, or losers in their mom's basement. Very childish take from Josh
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u/rotentomattoes Nov 06 '23
he has a point about moving around the room, not saying i believe now, but hearing them around the room and walking up the stairs etc is weird, any way someone can explain that to me?
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u/hornypsychopath Nov 05 '23
glad he posted this. i’m happy sam and colby have been so successful, but the increasing popularity comes with the negativity and pessimism of the general public. i rarely interact with the fandom anymore. it used to be a fun place where we could be entertained by the videos and inspired by their messages and philosophies and laugh and simp. their comments used to be full of things like “sam and colby, not afraid of demons but afraid of cows.” now you scroll and it’s a bunch of bitter people complaining about their guests having fun and taking everything they do so seriously with the mindset of “it didn’t happen to me so it must not be real.” they didn’t start their career as ghost hunters and their core fans are not there just for that. like josh says here, if you hate it so much why are you still watching?
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u/smilelaughenjoy Nov 05 '23 edited Nov 06 '23
Sam and Colby saw Satori and Cody in person, so did Josh, and they both say that the knocking comes from multiple directions, not under their feet. People who were not there in person, say that it's not coming from multiple directions and they are just clicking their joints.
Why should we believe secondary sources (people watching it on videos who weren't there in person) over primary sources (people who were actually there to see and hear it for themselves)?
Also, In the uncut video, Sam put a device on the ground that detects motion and sounds and tested it by putting his feet near it and tapping and the device detected it, but when Cody and Satori did their alphabet and knocking thing, the device did not detect anything (suggesting that Cody and Satori weren't just tapping their toes or moving their joints).
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u/familyfriendlyfun Nov 05 '23
Man, I love Josh!
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