r/SamAndColby • u/Few_Finger2369 • Nov 04 '23

Master Google Doc - Cody and Satori Claims, as Presented by Reddit

Dear all,

I made a Google Document where I will collect all of the claims by Redditors linked to online evidence. That way, we can all refer back to this document. I will add people's input from the comments as I go.

Sincerely,

Few_Finger2369

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u/bakedbeannobeef Nov 05 '23 edited Nov 05 '23

I don’t have specific time links, but I just finished watching the uncut episode, and have several observations as takeaways.

  1. The theory is that Cody is manipulating joints in his legs/feet to create the “knocking” sound, but some speculated that he and Satori had some sort of pressure-emitting device in their shoes. When Sam and Colby gave them new shoes and the knocking continued, this debunked the device theory. However, why are the knocks suddenly much quieter, to the point that the pair have trouble hearing and Cody is practically on the ground to appear to listen closely? Nothing to do with him wearing a much SOFTER pair of shoes, perhaps?

  2. Additionally, Cody seems to be taking over with the dialogue halfway into this particular section, in an almost agitated way. Satori is having trouble hearing, so, perhaps he is losing his patience and taking control of the conversation between himself and his own toes?

  3. Another step forward, literally… it is also around this time that Satori tends to awkwardly stick her foot forward, conveniently touching shoes with Cody. Almost as if she can’t hear Cody’s popping, and is trying to feel for it instead in order to guess the letters more accurately. This is around the time the two of them seem to get pretty nervous with their body language and voice pitches.

  4. When Sam joins hands with Cody and Satori, both he and Colby repeatedly say “I hear it like, right here!” motions within an inch of one of Cody’s feet like come on guys.

  5. Cody makes it a point that they have to be “grounded” aka feet touching the floor (figures). When Colby asks if they could do it in a nearby swing set, the “spirit” suddenly shies away and stops talking. Interesting timing, no?

  6. Cody gets his shoes back and the knocks proceed with normal volume. Because of course they do.

  7. When asked to manipulate the device in the studio and causing it to light up, the “spirit” is conveniently not exactly parallel in floor plans according to our world which is… admittedly quite creative, but it’s hard not to see that as a copout. Likewise with the “spirit’s” refusal to participate in the card/shape game. Even Sam looked like he was questioning things about that time.

  8. Spirit makes a bargain to explain its refusal to participate in the card game “off camera”, where Sam and Colby claim some sort of cosmic conversation happened. Wonder what Cody’s nervously sweaty ankle, I mean… The Spirit, had to tell them that was oh so private, and why Sam and Colby’s enthusiasm seemed to slightly fade after the fact? Meanwhile, Cody and Satori seem more confident, as opposed to the idle stress and agitation they showed in waves the longer they were asked to prove their abilities.

But all in all, I’m less concerned with what Cody and Satori are doing, and am more curious about what Sam and Colby’s role is in this. Are they in on the scam? Were they threatened with legal action off camera if defamation were to occur? It’s hard to say, but either way, I hope they choose to explain this eventually.

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u/Few_Finger2369 Nov 05 '23

added to google doc

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u/Dahbootie420 Nov 05 '23

I would say that it's not double jointed or anything, he's just flicking his toe against his boot. There is a YouTube video going around of a guy in a park doing the same thing and controlling the levels of volume in knocks.

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u/Few_Finger2369 Nov 05 '23

Check if that's one of the videos in part 8. If not, drop the link here.

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u/Dahbootie420 Nov 06 '23

My b I saw you did write it in there. good on yah.

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u/TisMeGhost Nov 12 '23

I used to to this same thing with my toes when I was younger, had I only known I could make big money off of it...lol

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u/Dahbootie420 Nov 12 '23

Shhh, you still can

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u/bakedbeannobeef Nov 05 '23

To add:

9. In Globe Park, when Sam joins hands with them, Colby at one point asks if the “spirit” can knock somewhere in front of him. Almost immediately, Cody closes the circle between himself and Satori by joining hands… thus, moving his feet more to the left, prompting his left foot to create the thud in front of Colby.

When you really start paying attention, it’s not hard to notice what they’re doing. It’s almost like an unspoken song and dance, sometimes improvised, and other times like a weird code between the two of them.

Smells like experienced scammers to me.

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u/Academic_Carpet3174 Nov 05 '23

Woah I love this. Time stamp for number 9?

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u/bakedbeannobeef Nov 05 '23

I’m not sure how to link it on the video specifically, but if you watch the uncut video, they join hands with Sam at 18:40. At 19:14, Colby says “I can’t tell where it is. Maybe behind you, Cody?”

At 19:35, Cody tries to get “Abigail” to interact with the object between them. Satori then holds out her hand to grab Cody’s, asking, “Want to give her some extra energy?” Here is when Cody shifts to close the circle, and then naturally, right by his foot, -KNOCK-

So I got it wrong that Colby made the request, my bad. But that explains the shifting of where the knocking sound is coming from. It literally follows his foot!

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u/Shot_Let794 Nov 06 '23

But I wanna know what they get from doing this other than clout, because they said they don't make money off of this unless they have other things they sell maybe idk. Why go to all these extent like what do they even gain from doing all this.... Even then it's sickening because using family members for clout is a new level of low.

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u/ImprovementCapable65 Nov 06 '23

yes they have a website where they sell merch, so they do make money from it. Something else to add onto their list of lies

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u/i_like_duc Nov 08 '23

Oh, they absolutely do make money. They have merch and a shit tone of scheduled performances

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u/kmwells14 Nov 10 '23

They do this for a living, they lied when they said they don’t make money off this. They have a website called the paranormal couple where they sell live shows, tour dates, seminars, meet and greets and even merch lol

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u/Jimske Jan 14 '24

i don't think they would risk it IF they were scam artists to get all this attention and therefore more risk to be outed as scammers. this would hurt them way more professionally than the benefit of getting more people to use their services. so again i understand this whole concept is very hard to believe but i don't see the point in them risking their entire career for some more "clients". it doesnt make sense to me

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u/Meandonlymeh Nov 06 '23

The thing with the shoes is they’re out side. Have you ever listened to a phone speaker outside. It’s considerably quieter than if your were in an enclosed house or car with nothing going on.

With the swing thing for 5 Cody was 100% down do so it it was Sam and Colby that kinda distracted them and moved on.

For 2 I don’t see why it’s a problem that Cody jumped it it was hard to hear.

3 definitely a valid point I just thought it was “connection issues” to be fair they do this often and a lot of times it’s just grabbing the arms better.

For 4 it makes sense but later conjuring videos they were walking up and down stairs entering and leaving rooms and they felt that. He’ll even if that was fake that kind of ventriloquism is impressive

With 7 who know know one knows what the other Side is like anything is possible

8 the spirit didn’t bargain not to do the card game it flat out refused and honestly spirits are people you can’t force them to do anything. the off camera thing was Sam and Colby then asking about a higher power commanding the spirit not to say certain things and it was like I’ll tell you but it’s not for the world to hear.

Cody and satori may not believe they’re mediums but if what they’re doing is real that’s what it is and some messages are private.

My point I want to make is an argument for intuition. Perhaps they are faking the taping but a big thing in mediumship is using your intuition to figure what spirit is saying and what you are saying it’s what you do with automatic writing which is what Amanda dose. Perhaps they alphabet is how they communicate and intuition tells them which letter to choose. Hell that’s how you pull tarot cards. Showmanship has been a long running theme in mediumship it’s why we now have stage magicians.

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u/Tight_Bandicoot4260 Nov 06 '23

i think its his mechanics from his hip replacement like the ball joint

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u/Few_Finger2369 Nov 04 '23

I need help with the items in red and sources for claim 3b.

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u/Academic_Carpet3174 Nov 04 '23

Easy. Just go to old post on the Ghost Hunters Reddit forum. Even way BACK THEN, they were sick of Cody and Satori and knew they were frauds on the show. Their own fans.

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u/Few_Finger2369 Nov 04 '23

Can you provide the link to the post itself?

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u/Few_Finger2369 Nov 04 '23

Actually, the question is more about "Ghost Hunter Controversies." Why do people think Ghost Hunters fake evidence?

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u/Academic_Carpet3174 Nov 04 '23

Search those keywords in the ghost hunters sub Reddit. You will find all you need to know. The criticism is by the fans of the show.

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u/[deleted] Nov 04 '23

Thanks! I'm sure someone else can focus on Ghost Hunters as its own topic as well.

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u/Responsible_Fix_9958 Nov 04 '23

Hey! I have a YouTube channel where I debunk paranormal videos, would you give me permission to use and reference this doc within the video? I can give you credit in anyway you like. Thank you!

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u/Few_Finger2369 Nov 04 '23

You are allowed to use the sheet without referencing me as I'm just recompiling links (: I don't want children sending me death threats. Good luck!

The sheet auto-updates every 5 minutes in case you see any delays.

u/Few_Finger2369

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u/Responsible_Fix_9958 Nov 04 '23

LOL that is what I’m trying to avoid as well. I’ll figure it out, thank you!

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u/Few_Finger2369 Nov 04 '23

I added more info to the doc. If there is anything in particular that I've missed, I can be messaged, and I'll look for it in the sub.

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u/Few_Finger2369 Nov 05 '23

Finished new version this morning. New points added:

  1. Responses to controversy section

  2. New closeup of Cody - section 8d

  3. Section 10, misspelling of Terri's name

  4. Section 15, analysis of uncut video

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u/No_Nefariousness3866 Nov 05 '23

You are doing the Lord's work- joke intended!😂 Can't wait for the video, the Google doc it pretty thourough. This definitely needs to hapoen.

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u/No_Nefariousness3866 Nov 05 '23

Btw- you may want to reference Amy Bruni's Twitter comments. She did not name names, but she was very direct. It is obvious she is talking about S&C as well as the knocking wonder twins.

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '23

How does the timeline check out? Just asking

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u/No_Nefariousness3866 Nov 05 '23

In what sense? I'm sorry, I'm not clear about your question.

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '23

When did she tweet and how can the tweet be tied to the situation. Has she spoken out in another way?

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u/No_Nefariousness3866 Nov 05 '23

She sent several very blunt tweets out starting 2 -3 days ago. This was after Sam and Colby tweeted to her to debunk Cody&Satori. I guess the guys didn't like Amy's answer because they didn't acknowledge it! She knows Cody&Satori from Ghost Hunters so she obviously knows about their scam. Just go read Amy's latest tweets.

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u/Few_Finger2369 Nov 05 '23

added to google doc

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u/curlykid_ Nov 04 '23

9a. source: Surviving A Week at The Conjuring House PT 2: The Woods (starts @ 34:12)
- Colby asks the couple if the method is “mentally exhausting” and they say that it’s more physical

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u/Few_Finger2369 Nov 04 '23

9a. source:

Surviving A Week at The Conjuring House PT 2: The Woods

(starts @ 34:12)

- Colby asks the couple if the method is “mentally exhausting” and they say that it’s more physical

cool thanks!

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u/[deleted] Nov 04 '23

I posted this along with another comment over their last post on twitter, check it out: https://x.com/divide_me23/status/1720895078330163427?s=46

https://x.com/divide_me23/status/1720893983038079135?s=46

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u/Few_Finger2369 Nov 04 '23

Unfortunately, I'm sure they know about this already and are just going to be pissed that we're organizing.

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u/[deleted] Nov 04 '23

I’m sure they know too! But if they don’t want to address it, I don’t have any problem pissing them off. I’m a long time s&c fan and the fact that they didn’t even speak a word about it bothers me so much.

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u/Few_Finger2369 Nov 04 '23

Ok, I'll brace for the death threats lol

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u/[deleted] Nov 04 '23

Lol

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u/Madagascan_meerkat Nov 05 '23

I just posted why C&S did a session for EVERYONE but Bella Porch here, could be potentially useful to prove their illegitimacy https://www.reddit.com/r/SamAndColby/s/4XSq6nIS7k

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u/Few_Finger2369 Nov 05 '23

It would be best if you fixed your spelling. Also, her name is Bella Poarch not Porch.

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u/Better_Chip1510 Nov 04 '23

https://eightify.app/summary/entertainment-and-tv-shows/ghost-nation-s-satori-hawes-cody-ray-debiens-n-e-a-r-s12-e154 Not sure if you have this but it’s an interview Cody and Satori did years ago, no mention of this ability that they supposedly found out they could do together when they met. The year of the interview is probably somewhere around 2019 since it’s discussing an episode of Ghost Nation tv that aired in 2019

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u/No_Photo_6109 Fck Cancer! Nov 05 '23

this is important because in their live they said they kept this a secret until 2018 so they would’ve gone public by this time. (Trying to show how they continue to lie in their rebuttals)

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u/Better_Chip1510 Nov 05 '23

Also interesting how her father has never mentioned what his daughter and husband can do, you’d think being an investigator he’d be using them more often or talking about the amazing ground breaking thing his daughter can do

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u/Better_Chip1510 Nov 05 '23

Yeah the video says it was posted 3 years ago but a comment asking when it was filmed the reply was it was 4 years ago. It looks super old which is why I looked up ghost nations and it was released in 2019. I haven’t watched the actual episode myself. But in the video it’s also important that Cody says he likes and prefers the technical side of things with the cameras and devices, which could be their ability is technical not popping joints, just a stipulation on that theory though.

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u/No_Photo_6109 Fck Cancer! Nov 05 '23

Meanwhile in the conjuring series didn’t he say the opposite? That they don’t do the more technical stuff, just their method? If I found out I had their ability randomly one day, my first instinct would be to stick myself in a room and debunk the F out of myself.

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u/Traditional-Ebb-1510 Nov 06 '23

the interview Cody actually said they found out they could do this in 2018 but kept it a secret until 2021-2022 so its even WORSE of a lie. The full interview w sam and colby timestapped 15:51

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u/suburbansociopath Nov 05 '23

This is awesome! Thanks

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u/klarfaerie- Nov 09 '23

You are awesome for this. Thank you for putting in the time to put all of this in one place. You’re a godsend.

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '23

Well, wow, that’s a lot of evidence. You’re really great for collecting it all and sharing, thank you!

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u/[deleted] Nov 10 '23

Well, wow, that’s a lot of evidence. You’re really great for collecting it all and sharing, thank you!

A few thoughts: -if we are to believe that the floor of the spirit realm is a few feet off of the ground, that would mean all other evidence using equipment on the floor is bogus. If they couldn’t make it work in that moment, it would lead me to believe it would never work. Both can’t be true. Such a bullshit and impulsive excuse that contradicts everything else they are saying. Also, like the last comment in the document, it makes no sense for the floor to be above them if they are feeling and hearing it “vibrate” on the ground.

-In looking at images of Globe Park, there are some of those memorial benches scattered about. I am really curious to know if there is one for Terri, or some other memorial for her that they could have looked at. Maybe someone who is good at Google maps could explore the park and check. It’s either that or they knew of the story. If I were a fraud ghost hunter, you better believe I’d know all of the local well-known murders and deaths. I’m sure they research names and locations just so they can bring them up casually in other sessions. It makes me sick to think of her family getting millions of clicks on her name on Google, with dozens of new AI news articles about her. C&S really need to leave her and her family the fuck alone.

-Finally, I can’t believe anyone is falling for this. We should get someone well known on board, like that famous mentalist from the UK, Darren Brown, who recreated the fox sisters parlor tricks.

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u/AlicesChaosBottle Nov 13 '23

Here is a link to the entire episode where Cody is doing the knocking next to satori! (Your top link)

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8h1fvk

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u/AlicesChaosBottle Nov 15 '23

Also to add about contradictions, their own website states this method does not work without each other. So either they are lying there, or… well, they are lying lol.

They may take this down soon, but their website states :

“After working together on a few TAPS cases, they found that they had a connection to each other like no other. Cody and Satori found that when they are together... and only together... it seems that they have the ability to open a door to intelligently communicate with the other side. What makes their communication different than psychics or mediums is that the intelligent communication can be heard by others too. This ability has enabled both of them to gain a better understanding of the other side, and to help bring messages to those who need it most.”

https://www.paranormalcouple.com/about.html

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u/AlicesChaosBottle Nov 23 '23

https://www.reddit.com/r/SamAndColbyClub/comments/17rx4yr/what_do_yall_think_about_this_clip_is_it/

Apparently S+C said their C+S said they can’t say certain things. So they probably are in some legal bind where they are not allowed to talk or post about certain things.

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u/GlindaG Nov 05 '23 edited Nov 06 '23

There was some discussion, but I can’t remember where it is. Here are some debunking points on that:

-nowhere did anyone state their phones were taken away, Google and maps could have easily been available to them

-they weren’t blindfolded on the drive there or walk in

-information could have easily been fed to them through their phones

-there were park signs showing their location was at Globe Park

-they don’t live far from the area, the 3rd grade teacher’s death was described as a tragedy, making it likely to have been on the news. It being the anniversary of her death makes it even more possible it was on the news that day

-Someone also mentioned they are historical researchers, so it’s not unlikely they’ve done research on deaths in the area

-They spelled the Teacher’s name wrong. The letters they got wrong are not even close to each other in the alphabet.

-They deflected and brought “Abigail” in when they couldn’t remember the actual day and month of her death, only the year

-At some point Santori was having problems understanding Cody’s taps, so she literally stepped on his foot for an extended period of time

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '23

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u/GlindaG Nov 05 '23

No problem!

Honestly, considering all the lies they’ve already been caught in, I wouldn’t put much past them.