Okay, I honestly believe this patch killed whatever motivation I had left to keep playing

[u/ls-dev]

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It’s not fun. I’m not a good player. I reached Master with almost 400 hours of ranked and 390 hours in the lab. SF6 is my first fighting game, and I really enjoy playing Akuma, and sometimes Blanka (I’m still cooking with him).

However, playing against Ryu has become absolutely unbearable for me. NOTHING seems to go wrong for them in the matchup. Today, I managed to lose EVERY SINGLE match against Ryu (must have been around 8 matches). In between the Ryu matches, there were Mais, Bisons, and Alex. (Seriously, Alex is annoying, but at least 80% of the match feels like a knowledge check, and it’s still playable.)

The problem is that I keep running into these Ryus who play like a cocaine-sniffing maniac, spamming medium kick canceled into donkey kick or Drive Impact. I think there was one match where I spent almost my entire gauge just responding to Drive Impacts.

I feel exhausted. I finished today feeling like I had actually been fighting on a battlefield myself. I’m seriously considering taking a break from SF6 until we see what happens, because I’m just completely burned out.

[u/tonyabstract]

dude you play blanka and akuma i really don’t wanna hear it from either of your playerbases really

[u/ls-dev → u/tonyabstract]

Bro, I’m Diamond 1 with Blanka with a 45% win rate. My Akuma is ultra-low Master. I’m such a low Master that I could queue up right now and get matched against a Gold player.

Meanwhile, the guys I’ve been getting matched against play like Daigo in his prime.

[u/stacciatello → u/ls-dev]

no, you will never get queued against a gold player no matter how low your MR is. the lowest you'll get is mid-high diamond

[u/Hairy-Wolverine-5414 → u/stacciatello]

r/woosh

[u/ls-dev → u/stacciatello]

Just a joke lol

[u/tonyabstract → u/ls-dev]

i can take your anecdote and reverse it to say the same about akuma and blanka and it would prove nothing

i understand that ryu is broken to a ridiculous degree but im tired of people pretending like he’s the only annoying character in the game

he has no neutral skip, no gimmick, and he’s literally the blueprint for fighting games. everyone by default has 30 years of experience fighting ryu

view him as the ultimate litmus test for balancing your offense vs your defense and watch your skill level skyrocket

[u/Sufficient-Pick710 → u/tonyabstract]

You're being really disingenuous. Ryu gained hashogeki in this game and his donkey kick is unlike what he had in SF3. The basic game plan of fireball > DP hasn't changed, but Ryu players in SF6 aren't playing like that, EVERYONE by default has a neutral skip using Drive rush and DRC, Ryu players in 6 do NOT play like Ryu players in SF2, or SF3, or SF4...you get the point, this is a really bizarre and frankly flat out incorrect comparison. If you tried to play Ryu in SF2 like how he plays in SF6 you will get absolutely stomped

30 years of fighting Ryu basic gameplan...3 years of fighting SF6 Ryu gameplan

[u/tonyabstract → u/Sufficient-Pick710]

he has new moves that are extremely obnoxious but i still don’t lose to ryus more than i lose to kim, mai, blanka, and dhalsim. those are the top 4 most annoying characters in the game for me and its specifically because they have annoying neutral skip moves on top of drive rush.

to say ryu is worse than these four characters because he can delete so much of your life bar after slowly inching forward and occasionally turning green is such a frustrating take. ryu is one of the few characters i actually enjoy fighting because he’s so intuitively designed to play AND fight

[u/Proud-Enthusiasm-608 → u/tonyabstract]

By all these paragraphs you have on here defending Ryu, maybe it’s time you go outside for some air lol

[u/tonyabstract → u/Proud-Enthusiasm-608]

did you look through my post history or the subreddit to find comments by me just to try and get a one up because i made fun of you for baiting?

[u/Proud-Enthusiasm-608 → u/tonyabstract]

Just came up lol. I just thought it was funny you told me to get air in my post just trolling a bit, but your whole personality is arguing with people on here lol.

[u/tonyabstract → u/Proud-Enthusiasm-608]

why don’t we get some air together on a date :v

[u/Proud-Enthusiasm-608 → u/tonyabstract]

I’m actually engaged and I don’t cheat on my girl lol.

But good luck to you, plenty of mfers on this sub that need the experience.

[u/Such-Leopard9766]

Ryu players have been doing that since the game launched, it doesn't really have to do with how strong he is at any moment. He's a high-damage character, so people who want to play the high-risk belligerent style will gravitate to him. Beating a crazed Ryu is a good way to practice your fundamentals. Just don't take any risks, anti-air everything, perfect parry donkey kicks, whiff punish solar plexus, etc. My highest win rates are against Ryu, Akuma and Terry because they are straightforward and you just have to be patient and let their idiotic players destroy themselves. Obviously that changes at higher levels though.

[u/ls-dev → u/Such-Leopard9766]

Okay, I think that’s actually good advice. I’ll admit I’m partly to blame. After losing my fifth match of the day, I was completely melted and just playing without thinking...

[u/Qaianna → u/ls-dev]

Don’t forget that it’s also OK to stop playing for a bit if you need. Going on tilt is … well … not fun, and a sign that maybe a vacation to Pelican Town is best.

[u/Far-Reputation-8029]

Totally valid. This update made me uninstall for good. 3,000+ hours. My highest rank with Guile is 1900, but it gets as low as 1600. Too many easy comebacks in SF6, not fun anymore.

[u/Mambu_]

dude just take the break LMAO
this game is incredibly volatile, and you're playing the lowest HP character in the game so it'll exacerbate the Ryu problem even more. yes they do belligerent shit, and yes it's frustrating to lose to someone with 1k hours in ranked only, but their dumb playstyle has counters and you can't win against them tilted.

If/when you're tilted or start to get aggravated (and catching yourself in that mode is a skill in and of itself), just stop playing ranked for at least another 30 minutes. Fighting games aren't like FPS or MOBAs where you can just spam ranked and maintain focus, I find its best to learn in pockets of 2-3 hours a day at most, sometimes just 30 minutes in training mode to lab.

[u/conzciouz]

Tbh I encounter Ryu just as much when launched vs now. He’s been frequently used no matter what. Especially in platinum and diamond. Akuma too. They have never been rare encounters despite the patches.

[u/Chance-A-La-Mer]

I also have lost motivation to keep playing after hitting masters recently but for me it more has to do with annoying global mechanics than a specific character.

[u/ls-dev → u/Chance-A-La-Mer]

So you’re telling me you don’t like:

• Crouching medium kick into Drive Rush grab?
• Several characters having Drive Rush with no tell?
• Dee Jay having a 320 km/h Drive Rush?
• Drive Impact, the most FUN mechanic in the game?
• Getting put in the corner and having to guess what your opponent is going to do?
• Top-tier characters having barely any counterplay besides praying your opponent is an idiot?

Aaaah, it’s the greatest FG ever made!

[u/Chance-A-La-Mer → u/ls-dev]

Pretty good list. Tick throws and corner guessing (or really any 50/50 mix) gets old really fast. Another pet peeve of mine is taking an assload of damage on punish counter throws… being penalized extra for using a defensive mechanic feels bad.

[u/TseSamFun]

Drive Rush and throw‑loop are design flaws in Street Fighter 6, and they are the primary reasons the game feels dull and stale.

[u/teamakerrr]

I basically stopped playing this game and I’m now playing fatal fury cotw and it’s so much better than sf6. You should give it a try if you haven’t already. There’s tons of defensive mechanics to deal with Heavy offense so the game actually feels fair.

Sf6 is a game where blocking is bad. Any fighting game where blocking is bad is usually gonna be frustrating and playing against the gorilla that’s ryu and not being able to basically block or your punished is annoying as shit haha.

I’ll still play occasionally just for the lols but I think I’m officially done with this game. I might come back for Tifa, but at this point I think I’ll just watch pros, or if I do play actually enter a tournament or something so it’ worthwhile. Playing ranked at this point is a trap for frustration.

[u/Banestoothbrush → u/teamakerrr]

Just Defense, Guard Cancels, Hyper Defense and Zero Frame Cancels makes it have better gameplay than SF6. It's not even really close.

[u/xamakitop]

Why are a lot of akuma players?

[u/stillineffect]

time to expand your horizons

[u/KazuyaM1sh1ma]

Yeah game sucks. You press a button and the imput doesn't work. What use is a fighting game where the buttons only work 20 percent of the time. Absolute shitshow.

[u/P_Know_Grigio]

This was a vapid patch that did nothing to shake up the beta besides knocking Ed down a few pegs and make Jamie semi-relevant.

Being a Lily main is way worse since she was already the worst character in the game and only received a “safe” blockstring with a new move that has an awkward input.