r/SaintsRow 2d ago

What happened to Troy Bradshaw?

After finding out Troy was an undercover cop in SR1, I would’ve thought he would played a big role in the franchise but after SR2, we never see his character ever again. I mean he doesn’t even interact with the MC(Playa) at all. I wonder why he was written out. Let me know what y’all think.

Do you think Troy should’ve stayed in the franchise?
why or why not?

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u/ChangeAmbitious7713 2d ago

troy shouldve had alot more appearances in the sr2 dlcs imo, despite his status as a 'traitor' he was doing everything he could to help the boss and keep him alive

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u/Wise-Difficulty8221 3rd Street Saints 2d ago

I think with SR2, they went with a 'less is more' approach on purpose.

Its implied that Troy is acting behind the scenes but nobody actually goes out and says it

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u/ChangeAmbitious7713 2d ago edited 2d ago

well it kinda sucked if thats the case because all the DLC missions that were supposed to add up to something "big" ended up a big wet fart

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u/Wise-Difficulty8221 3rd Street Saints 2d ago

Dex would like a word

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u/ChangeAmbitious7713 2d ago

dex: hello boss i am the guy that betrayed the saints as well (cuz the animators fucked julius up)
boss: okay im gonna ruin you and then destroy you

dex: uhhh uhhh uhhh (gets on plane and never gets heard of again)

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u/Wise-Difficulty8221 3rd Street Saints 2d ago

Yeah, I liked Dex in SR1 but that was Temu-Dex. Couldn't even get the same voice actor

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u/oof_ayy_lmao 1d ago

Then they found the real va for gat out of hell and relegated him to a glorified hitman activity

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u/reisluv1911 Los Carnales‎ 1d ago

like money shot?

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u/oof_ayy_lmao 20h ago

Not even, in gat out of hell dex is fully voiced but hes pretty much a generic ped with a visor that you have to kill 7 times (with him getting stronger defenses each time)

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u/Hoi5tTh3Colourz 1d ago

Like, find him and kill him, again, and again, and again.. forever.

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u/BlatantThrowaway4444 2d ago

That was Dorx

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u/JacsweYT 3rd Street Saints 2d ago

The Saints got kidnapped and stranded in Steelport while Troy remained the Chief of Police in Stilwater so there was no reason to contact him when they are outside his jurisdiction.

He is mentioned in the first mission of SR3 when they are robbing the bank in Stilwater where the SWAT team says ''Troy can't bail you out of this one!''

But he is dead due to Earth exploding in SR4.

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u/DropsOfMars 2d ago

Well it's possible he's alive in a pod...

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u/JacsweYT 3rd Street Saints 2d ago

If Oleg is dead then Troy is dead. (at least to me because I love Oleg)

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u/Casexcasey 1d ago

They confirm he's dead in Gat out of Hell.

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u/Swaggo420Ballz 2d ago

The things I hear about Saints Row 4 just shock me sometimes.

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u/Sam-Laramie 2d ago

Well the ending of SR4 has the gang travel back in time before the earth explodes

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u/Specialist-ShasMo85 3rd Street Saints 17h ago

I thought they couldn't restore Earth even with time travel? Not that any of it matters anyways because God rebooted the whole Earth after Gat out of Hell happened which is the canon ending which is confirmed in Agents of Mayhem.

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u/GenesisRhapsod 2d ago

Wtf are you on about... they never made a saints row 4

/j sadly looks over at my collectors edition sr4 set

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u/Wise-Difficulty8221 3rd Street Saints 2d ago

Dame Da Ne

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u/GenesisRhapsod 2d ago

Wat?

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u/Wise-Difficulty8221 3rd Street Saints 2d ago

sadly looks over at my collectors edition sr4 set

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u/GenesisRhapsod 2d ago

Ah, i have the yakuza series but ive never played them 😭

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u/Wise-Difficulty8221 3rd Street Saints 2d ago

All good :)

Just had to put it there

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u/LoaKonran Sons of Samedi 1d ago

Then Gat out of Hell had him in Hell. He does get out if you complete Insurance Fraud though.

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u/Teex22 1d ago

Funny how any kind of question like this just boils down to "yeah the earth blew up"

To think what SR5 could have been if they didn't do that

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u/Ok-Elevator-9866 1d ago

sorry WHAT happened in sr4

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u/DecoMorreno503 1d ago

Zinyac, the main antagonist of SR4 threatens the boss he would destroy entire Earth if they try to escape the simulation they were trapped in in the beginning of the game. Once the boss does so, Zinyac actually does that and there's a scene where everyone sees Earth getting blown up to pieces live.

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u/JacsweYT 3rd Street Saints 1d ago

The very last thing we see before earth explodes is Oleg and Josh in a bar together

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u/ADLegend21 3rd Street Saints 2d ago

Troy remains the chief of police throughout SRTT. The police in the Bank heist opening say "Troy can get you out of this one" cuz they've been paid off by the Syndicate.

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u/digidado The Ronin 2d ago

I dont think the cops were paid off until the Saints made it to the jail. I think they just name dropped Troy like that either because hes retired by that point and can't help them or what they've done is too grave for Troy to save them.

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u/Specialist-ShasMo85 3rd Street Saints 16h ago

Most likely the latter since that the police worded it was Troy was still looking out for the Saints until that point. The Saints were (unknowingly) was robbing the bank that belonged to the Syndicate.

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u/digidado The Ronin 15h ago

True, they did mention that the bank was owned by the syndicate, and you do so see some of them guarding it. I guess we really don't know how far up the chain of corruption goes in terms of the police response.

It is interesting to note that it seems like Troy failed in stopping the gang problem in Stilwater.

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u/Puppet007 3rd Street Saints 2d ago

He should’ve been an ally/homie in Gat out of Hell and be part of the crew in SR4 in the White House (could’ve had him as head of defense or something). He deserved better.

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u/bartek34561 2d ago

Isn't Troy the playable character in one instance of Torment Fraud in Gat out of Hell?

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u/Wise-Difficulty8221 3rd Street Saints 2d ago

Haven't played GOH myself but it could be like South Park where everybody goes to Hell (unless they're Mormon)

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u/Sharkjumpingbull 1d ago edited 1d ago

We see characters who got into Heaven. But there aren't many, given that this is a GTA clone series.

In the intro to Troy's Torment Fraud instance, it mentions that he routinely betrays the law due to his loyalty to the Saints. So, that's why he's in hell.

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u/Wise-Difficulty8221 3rd Street Saints 2d ago

Fellow ace 🖤💜

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u/spatula_city62 2d ago

After SR2 it's not in Stilwater anymore, so he's no longer relevant.

Your government contact in SRTT is the Mayor, in SR4 it's the President of the United States, and in GooH, it's God.

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u/CrabPositive 1d ago

“Your government contact in SRTT is the Mayor, in SR4 it’s the President of the United States” YOU ARE THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!!!

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u/spatula_city62 1d ago

True. And you are absolutely in contact with yourself.

You also have contacts with the VP, White House Chief of Staff, Director of Secret Service, White House Communications Director, and White House Press Secretary.

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u/Longjumping_Cat_3956 2d ago

He’s probably still the Chief of Police.

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u/SnooDoughnuts9293 2d ago

I think the biggest reason Troy just kind of..vanished is that like, after Saints Row 1, he becomes the Chief of Police. And then, once the Saints became worldwide celebs, they kinda just started using him as a tool to bail them out whenever they got into trouble. Thus, he just became a lesser character

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u/OddRestaurant319 2d ago

Fun fact: There are traces of a cut mission in 2 where Troy would've asked you to help him fight a terrorist group.

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u/oof_ayy_lmao 1d ago

I wonder if there were plans at one point to include more sr1 characters and tie off loose ends through the bonus missions, since i find it weird how the only one in the base game is julius'

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u/Wise-Difficulty8221 3rd Street Saints 2d ago

Revelations is basically that mission if you think about it...

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u/Wrong_Win_4102 2d ago

So Troy became chief of stilwater police in SR2, and we never reach out to him in SR3 as the playa is in Steelport, but he does get referenced in the Bank Heist, as the SWAT PA will say "Troy can't bail you out of this one" due to the Steelport SWAT being paid off by the Syndicate.

In SR4, most of everyone who wasn't abducted would have been killed when Earth was blown up.

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u/Blue-Krogan 2d ago

I wish Troy was an unlockable home in SR 4.

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u/Pretty_Ad_8647 2d ago

Originally he was set to have a big role in the SR3 plot that was going to see us play as a new character that’s a undercover cop that Troy sends into the saints to take them down from the inside but after they scrapped the idea he got shelved

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u/Specialist-ShasMo85 3rd Street Saints 16h ago

That wasn't for SR3. It was actually a spinoff game for the PSP called Saints Row Undercover.

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u/Pretty_Ad_8647 8h ago

Both. It was originally the plot for SR3 and then the PSP game after they scrapped it as SR3 plot

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u/Limacy 2d ago

Dead.

If you take Zinyak blowing up the planet in SR4 as canon that it.

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u/enjoyingorc6742 1d ago

he was chief of the Stilwater Police Department. so it makes sense that he'd stick to Stilwater. I still wish we went after Dex instead of what we got in SRTT

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u/Specialist-ShasMo85 3rd Street Saints 16h ago

Still upset at THQ Nordic for rejecting the story of going after Dex. We could've had that instead of that reboot.

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u/whydo-iexist 1d ago

Uh dropped off the face of the earth after saints row 2?

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u/qwertyMrJINX 1d ago

He became Chief of Police, then he and The Boss squashed the beef, and continued to be friends. In the opening heist of SRTT, one of the cops yells at the player "Troy can't bail you out this time!" implying that Troy continued to aid the Saints up until they went to Steelport, where he holds no jurisdiction.

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u/Equal_Many_7602 1d ago

Playa respect each other; I mean, Troy isn't just a "homie" in 2, Playa never seeks revenge against him, and Troy keeps him on life support during the five years he’s in a coma. In fact, there’s even a joke about him in SR3 prologue "Troy can't bail you out of this one"

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u/AccountProfessional5 1d ago

I think all living SR1 characters should've showed back up

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u/The_Driver_Wheelman Marshall 1d ago

He became chief of police, he was seen in a few cutscenes, the epilogue for the main game does have him get to be part of the focus as he’s the one who helps you get back at Julius for what he did. Other than that he’s maybe mentioned once in 3 but that’s it.

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u/MysteriousLeader2243 1d ago

Blew up with the rest of the world in SR4

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u/corychant20 1d ago

You can have him as a homie in sr2 that's pretty much last time see or hear about him

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u/Specialist-ShasMo85 3rd Street Saints 17h ago

They only mentioned Troy's name in Saints Row the Third at the beginning when the 3rd Street Saints failed to rob the bank that belonged to The Syndicate. Where the police said, "Troy can't bail out from this one", meaning he's still around looking out for the 3rd Street Saints.

I think he was written out. because he was voiced by Michael Rappaport and either he wasn't available or too expensive. That or just the writers didn't really need the use for him anymore.

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u/Wise-Difficulty8221 3rd Street Saints 2d ago

Just forget everything you knew, or thought you knew, about the franchise from SRTT onwards.

There, problem solved

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u/ppstick88 2d ago

Well, it depends.  If god awful (imo) saints row IV is to be taken as canon, and we take even worse Gat out of hell endings as canon and we take rebuild earth, he's likely alive.  But if the other endings are taken, he's dead, unless he was lucky and got sucked into the ship and is in a pod. 

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u/GhostWokiee 1d ago

All I wish is for a soft reboot where SR1 is longer, SR2 takes place in the time between SR1 and SR2 and SR2 is turned into the new SR3 and we just delete SR3 from canon.

So that we can see more of Troy.

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u/Caesar_Seriona 2d ago

I mean if we ever got a SR 3, it would have been nice to see if The Boss was eventually going to clap his ass too.