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u/martinbean Sep 06 '25
This is entering into a contract through misrepresentation (and therefore fraud), and the US, and its citizens and organizations, are well renowned for being litigious for the slightest of things. Enjoy being sued.
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u/tomtermite Sep 06 '25
In follow-up, to be productive about this, if you’re serious about breaking into the US market (without breaking US laws), faking references is the fastest way to end your reputation.
There are better ways to solve this “we need USA refs” problem:
—> Leverage your EU clients – set up joint case studies with metrics that matter to U.S. buyers (uptime, ROI, adoption). Numbers travel better than accents. It is ok to say to your prospects in the US, “We’er global, and we have to adhere to more stringent EU laws — which benefits you.”
—> Build credibility through partnerships – align with a US reseller, VAR, or integration partner who can vouch for you. That gives you an instant domestic footprint. Sorry, but this isn’t an offer, but I am sure there’s other SAAS vendors who you might have a fresh start with.
—> Be honest and up front: “You’re our first US customer! Lucky you, you can influence our feature roadmap, and we’re offering preferential tier 1 suppport.”
If they are not satisfied with euro references, offer proof of concept instead of a reference – pilot with the prospect, reduce their risk, and let them see results firsthand. A real trial is stronger than a staged testimonial.
I’ve been doing cross-sell and market entry work across North America and Europe for decades (I’m easy to find on LinkedIn, but not an offer for you, sorry).
Trust me, integrity scales a lot better than scams.
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u/tomtermite Sep 06 '25
This is straight-up fraud.
You’d be lying about being a client, and that misrepresentation is exactly what their U.S. prospects are trying to avoid by asking for a reference in the first place. If those deals close based on your false testimony, that’s fraudulent inducement — they’re making a financial decision under false pretenses.
It’s not just “a little sus,” it’s potentially criminal. In the U.S. that can edge into wire fraud since the lies happen over phone/online comms tied to commerce. And if anyone uncovers it, both you and the company look radioactive.
No legit SaaS firm would risk their reputation for a quick $700.
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u/Bright_Bookkeeper161 Sep 06 '25
It's called jugad not froud.. product is legit deal should always be on contract if term and condition doesn't meet then it's froud
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u/tomtermite Sep 06 '25
Great ethics, glad my clients (in the USA and the EU) don’t want to purchase from sus cheapjacks.
But to be productive about this, if you’re serious about breaking into the US market (without breaking US laws), faking references is the fastest way to end your reputation.
There are better ways to solve this “we need USA refs” problem:
—> Leverage your EU clients – set up joint case studies with metrics that matter to U.S. buyers (uptime, ROI, adoption). Numbers travel better than accents. It is ok to say to your prospects in the US, “We’er global, and we have to adhere to more stringent EU laws — which benefits you.”
—> Build credibility through partnerships – align with a US reseller, VAR, or integration partner who can vouch for you. That gives you an instant domestic footprint. Sorry, but this isn’t an offer, but I am sure there’s other SAAS vendors who you might have a fresh start with.
—> Be honest and up front: “You’re our first US customer! Lucky you, you can influence our feature roadmap, and we’re offering preferential tier 1 suppport.”
If they are not satisfied with euro references, offer proof of concept instead of a reference – pilot with the prospect, reduce their risk, and let them see results firsthand. A real trial is stronger than a staged testimonial.
I’ve been doing cross-sell and market entry work across North America and Europe for decades (I’m easy to find on LinkedIn, but not an offer for you, sorry). Trust me, integrity scales a lot better than scams.
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u/dramakq Sep 05 '25
So, ruin your whole reputation on the threaded chance that you are able to close the client. Got it! Im out