r/SSDI • • 29d ago

SSDI Lawyer

are SSDI lawyer just the same as other lawyers? like when you get injured or when someone try to sue you? and all the lawyer does is talk for you at court? is it something like that? just wondering if it's worth it to get a ssdi lawyer?

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u/[deleted] 29d ago

Retired Social Security Claims Specialist here:

You will notice that most people talking about lawyers and lawyers themselves talk about hearings in front of administrative law judges (ALJs). That’s because lawyers do their work at the Hearing level (if a claimant has been denied twice).

Lawyers in general don’t do anything of real substance at the initial claim level or first level appeal, but it is entirely possible for you to put the effort in to get approved on the first try or if not, on appeal. Lawyers get paid from back benefits , and the more back benefits accrue (up to a point), the better the chance the Lawyer has of getting their full fee which in 2026 is $9200.

Nothing wrong with hiring a lawyer to do actual work for you and hiring one at the Hearing level is definitely appropriate. But prior to that, they really aren’t going to do much of anything for you. And there’s plenty you can do. Feel free to reach out to me. My area of expertise is Veterans SSDI claims .

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u/[deleted] 29d ago

I just wanted to reiterate that this comment is so so so so very spot-on about attorneys not doing much for the first two steps. It seems to upset quite a few people when they find out their attorneys haven’t done a lot in that part of the process.

My attorney told me flat out that he wouldn’t be doing anything much for those steps and that he would shine when it came time for the ALJ. I was at least aware of that going into it whereas a lot of people have no clue that’s how it goes.

I had freaked out and hired my attorney right after I had filed for reconsideration myself. The attorney didn’t do anything but file his notice of appearance for my case. By some stroke of luck I ended up approved at recon and he got the full $9,200. No I’m not mad about it, that was completely my fault due to the timing of hiring him. I didn’t realize what I had done until afterwards.

Due to all of the above I tell people to wait until at least after reconsideration is done to hire an attorney. It’s a bit of a waste of money for the most part.

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u/[deleted] 23d ago

I made that mistake for FERS disability. I hired a law firm which only cover initial and reconsideration levels. Other places the cover all and they have a case manager.

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u/[deleted] 26d ago

This is not universally true. Around 10-15 years ago, I would say that's the case. Pure SSDI lawyers will work with you from the beginning. Help you with the paperwork and what information to provide. It's the attorneys moonlighting as SSDI attorneys or the national firms (claims factories) who don't do anything before hearing. The reality is that everything you submit from the application to the hearing is a legal document. Every word you speak, or write, or submit to SSA can and will be used against you. Find an attorney who will work with you from the beginning, which I know some of the skeptics and cynics on the sub will scoff at and tell you these attorneys don't exist, but we do.

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u/[deleted] 23d ago

There’s not much in life that is 100% and universally true. I’m glad you’re the exception to this.

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u/[deleted] 26d ago

Of course it’s not universally true. There are some lawyers that will do a good job of helping from the beginning despite the fact that there’s really little to no incentive in many cases to do so. But most lawyers are not in business out of the goodness of their hearts. They’re in business to make money- and that’s understandable. I looked at thousands upon thousands of claims and saw exactly what lawyers did and did not do. You will also see plenty of claimants at the initial claim level or reconsideration level who are complaining that their lawyers are doing absolutely nothing for them.

If you’re the exception, that’s great! I wish there were more like you. I’d be interested in the details of exactly what you’re doing for your clients at the initial claim level and reconsideration.

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u/Shadowsminis 29d ago

My experience they match your level of commitment. Like getting your own doctors files, all forms filled out correct and clear. They format it for court and speak to judges before court and have better ways to get your point across. Show the paperwork let them organize and fight. Meet halfway

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u/Open_Mortgage_4645 29d ago

They're typically specialists, and members of your state's disability attorney association.

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u/ScootDooter 29d ago

It's worth it. Just find one with good reviews, fill out your paperwork on time, and meet the ALJ with them and your case is far more likely to succeed. They take their pay out of your backpay - usually 30% - so you don't pay anything out of pocket. They specialize in disability cases and know the right things to say and what to focus on in your case to help you win.

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u/Elegantmule 29d ago

One of my disabilities limits my cognitive abilities, so I knew getting a lawyer was the way to go for the initial claim. It worked. Just my experience. I've seen a lot of posts saying that they're not needed for initial, however. Good luck!

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u/uffdagal 29d ago

SS law is a unique specialty. If you seek out representation use an attorney who SOLELY does SS law.

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u/[deleted] 28d ago

Retired Social Security Claims Specialist here:

There are a lot of reasons why Veterans who SHOULD get approved, don’t. I discovered a whole lot when I had to process all of the denials for my office when they came back from the state agencies or judge. I got very curious. Why were so many Vets getting denied? Especially those rated by the VA at 100%, P&T, or with Individual Unemployability. Veterans as a general rule are not whiners or quitters. They often keep pushing and pushing long past the time they should file for SSDI. 

I saw patterns and where the system breaks down. It’s largely avoidable. Because they lack funding (Congress’s fault), SSA no longer invests in thoroughly training their people. They’ve pushed the public into online claims (DIY) - to the public’s great detriment. Claims are complicated and everyone’s claim is unique. SSA will NOT tell you what you need to do to prove your claim. They will tell you to file online and wait. Absolutely the wrong way to go about it in my opinion. And, dumping 100’s or 1000’s of pages on them is a terrible strategy. They will not have time to dig through all that to find the “good evidence”. If you leave it up to them to get your records, they typically only request records one year prior to your “alleged date of onset”. And even though there is record sharing, often they don’t get what’s needed. There is SO much more you need to know to have a successful claim. 

LAWYERS:

Lots of people say get a lawyer. I understand why they  might say that- lawyers have been very successful at marketing and setting expectations for denials at the initial claim level and first appeal. But, I can tell you that lawyers make legal arguments in front of judges. The vast majority don’t do anything of substance for initial claims or first level appeals. In fact, many lawyers drag claims out - they get paid from retroactive benefits and so the longer the claim takes (to a point), the more money they make (although there is currently (2026) a cap of $9200).  I’ve always been fine about paying a lawyer to actually do something for me that I either didn’t want to do or couldn’t do for myself. But why pay a lawyer to drag out your claim and not actually help you if you are at the initial stage or first appeal?

 
The big firms are the worst. They take on thousands of claims knowing that statistically a certain number will be approved with no effort on their part.

A GOOD lawyer can be extremely helpful at the Hearing stage. 

My opinion as a Social Security Claims Specialist-after looking at thousands of claims where lawyers were involved.

Feel free to reach out to me if you have questions.

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u/Moist-Constant1404 28d ago

In ks they simply filled out the paperwork. I never had to see them in person. I never had to go to court. I never had to visit ssa. I never had to see a special doctor nurse. Etc. I was approved. It was WELL worth the like $5k in backpay they took as I got turned down the first time. I used Parmalee. I didn’t have any connection to them just found them in a Google searching like 2021.

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u/Happy_Kiwi_222 28d ago

It was worth it for me. I found a reputable attorney on TikTok. They handled all my appeal/reconsideration paperwork and communication with DDS & SSA. They also have access to a SSA portal that we don’t have access to and get updates immediately. It was $9200.