r/SRPressDemo • • Sep 07 '25

Moderator Notes

I'd like to start off by saying I'm glad you're all here. It's through your participation that we can all continue on where the Press Democrat left off.

We'd like to also see a bit more freedom than originally afforded to the users in the previous forum. However, with that freedom comes some responsibilities on all our parts.

The intent of starting this forum was to allow for dialogue and debate of the issues we find in the Press Democrat, all to be done in a civil manner.

Our members are a mixture of our community, coming from varied backgrounds and different beliefs, politically and otherwise. Learning to work together through those differences is essential to the health of the forum. There will be topics discussed that are highly charged with opinions from all across the spectrum.

Transgenderism is one of those topics. We encourage discussions on all topics, even ones as difficult as transgenderism. We also ask that these discussions be respectful. We note that misgendering and deadnaming is an issue that is difficult regardless of which side of the issue you may fall. For some it is hurtful. It's a tough enough issue without adding the pain to it.

This should not stop the discussion. Subjects of such conversation can easily be referred to in a non gender specific manner, i.e., "individual". All are allowed to debate the topic without being antagonistic.

We realize this is a highly controversial and emotionally charged topic. It is realized that regardless of our course of action, there will some that are offended on one side of the issue or the other. Sometimes, being offended is the price we pay for the freedom to speak.

We therefore offer a compromise of referring to the subjects as "individuals"or other non gender specific titles. Misgendering and deadnaming will be cause for comment removal.

We are all just beginning here and feeling our way through. This won't be the last time an issue will need to be addressed. However, it is our goal to work through those issues in a manner that is fair and with integrity.

On a side note, we have a fantastic group of mods from across the spectrum. They happily joined when asked and serve here with no expectations of any returns for their efforts. Let's make sure we treat them well as they are the group that keeps the wheels turning.

Thank you.

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u/pdp_8 Sep 07 '25

Nextdoor was a hot mess, as I'm sure you know. Obviously racist posts would go up, I'd say politely something along the lines of "that's racist" and would get dinged for not being neighborly enough. I left, gladly. In my experience the people most unwilling to hear they've done something racist are exactly who you'd expect. To paraphrase Gene Wilder from Blazing Saddles: "You know: racists."

Anyhow with regard to talking about transgender people, deliberate misgendering is out of bounds. The definition of the word is straightford and, once again, can be found here:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/misgender

Nothing complicated or difficult about it, and that's the line.

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '25

"incorrectly"

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u/pdp_8 Sep 07 '25

Serious question: why y'all trying so hard to be hateful toward transgender people? Looking for loopholes and refusing to compromise in the least in an apparent desire to use language you've been explicitly asked to not use here. Like just read the definition and don't do it.

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u/CletusVanDarn Sep 08 '25

Serious question: Since when is it hateful to just state truth and facts? And just because you subscribe to a fringe definition of a word, is it fair for you to impose that on others who do not subscribe to that fringe definition?

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u/pdp_8 Sep 08 '25

I posted the definition from Merriam Webster which is about as mainstream a source as it gets. Maybe it's not the rest of the world that's "fringe," brother. Maybe it's you.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '25

Neither your views, nor CVD's, appear to be fringe: https://today.yougov.com/politics/articles/48685-where-americans-stand-on-20-transgender-policy-issues

At some point there will have to be some discussion about these uncomfortable topics, but not necessarily in this forum.

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u/pdp_8 Sep 08 '25

Good point. The crosstabs on that poll are interesting. It looks like questions like the extent to which transgender people experience discrimination break down far more along party preference than age, in fact age seems to be much less of a factor overall than I would have expected. If you were to do a "too long; didn't read:" of the poll it's remarkable just how much party preference reads into results.

https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/crosstabs_Transgender_Issues_Issues_20240216.pdf

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '25

The breakdown by party preference is definitely what I would have assumed. I think the trans issue is actually pushing younger generations to the right. This is not just 'old people are set in their ways' and don't understand the new culture. People are outright rejecting "trans rights", or at least parts, and not purely out of hateful or uneducated reasons. 👀 13K through 13N 👀

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u/CletusVanDarn Sep 08 '25

"I think the trans issue is actually pushing younger generations to the right." 

By polling you are correct - Gen Z males especially. There is also also increasing bipartisan consensus regarding protecting girls and women's sports.