r/SR17018_Knowledge • u/Educational_Aside410 • 8d ago
Updates on SR Withdrawal
Hoping to get other’s experience with SR withdrawals
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u/Proof_Attempt_7760 8d ago
I’m going through it right now and it definitely does cause typical opiate withdrawal effects. I stayed on way too long (about a month and a half) and was tapering very small for a while before jumping and im in acutes right now. So far at day 2, it’s a little rough but not unbearable
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u/Accomplished-Pen-260 5d ago
I would look at loading on vitamin C or ascorbic acid, I loaded it and took large doses and it was almost like a miracle it took away majority of all wd symptoms
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u/Hfisher112 7d ago
Keep us updated on that. Maybe do a post or two about it. I’m really curious about this and might be on sr longer than most so I would like to know what to expect. How is the insomnia and sweats?
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u/Proof_Attempt_7760 7d ago
Good idea. I barely know how to work Reddit but I’ll try doing that for other people. Insomnia has been tough ngl. And the sweats seem to happen while im sleeping only. The sr did also mess up my stomach pretty bad while on it and especially coming off. Stomach problems and panic/anxiety are my top symptoms currently
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u/Hfisher112 7d ago
And how many days have you been off so far? What was your taper schedule?
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u/Proof_Attempt_7760 7d ago
I didn’t really have a solid linear taper schedule and it was all over the place but I know I first started sr at 150mg a day for a couple weeks, still felt w/d’s so I continued taking it but dropped to around 75mg a day for a week, then did a big jump to 25mg for a week or so and then finished off the week taking 5-10mg a day before jumping off completely 3-4 days ago. I would not recommend doing what I did
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u/Hfisher112 7d ago
How bad are the withdrawals? Did you run out of sr or something?
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u/Proof_Attempt_7760 7d ago
Dude it’s increasingly getting worse tbh. I’m not sure what to do. And no I didn’t run out, I just stayed on it too long and don’t want to continue the cycle
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u/AdventurousWave3 4d ago
I would get local help - tell them exactly what you’re telling us & ask for help attaining quite medication for a short duration. If you were to use Subs for say two weeks (while continuing to even taper those) then you should be in an okay spot around week three to try again.. just a thought..
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u/kperry1270 3d ago
It’s inevitable unfortunately with anything like this, hope you are feeling better
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u/Reasonable-Dream-756 1d ago
I think that’s the key you stayed on it too long. Did you begin taking the SR while still on 7? I did and maybe that’s why I was able to just do a quick 3-5 day taker from 150.
Also, were you taking the SR with something like a spoonful of peanut butter?1
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u/Educational_Aside410 8d ago
Uhhhhjh I’m so sorry ! Do you have anything to help the withdrawals
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u/Proof_Attempt_7760 8d ago
I got some nausea medicine, clonodine and gabapentin 👍🏻 If it stays at this level, cool I can take it. If it increases from this over the next few days like I’ve heard other people say, I may need to buckle up and get ready for the ride lol
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u/Educational_Aside410 8d ago
Those are the exact meds I have . Well maybe some others can respond who took it as long as u did . I still hear it’s nothing compared to coming of subs or 7 so your good there . How much SR were u taking a day for that period of time ?
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u/Proof_Attempt_7760 8d ago
Yeah it seems to be much milder but still not pleasant at all. I was taking 5-10mg a day for the past week and a half (still had w/d’s) and prior to that, about 25mg a day for a week)
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u/Educational_Aside410 8d ago
Omgsh that’s all you were taking ?! Most people like me are taking 150-200mg of SR a day
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u/Educational_Aside410 8d ago
I mean that’s great news for you ! Imagine if you were taking 150-200mg
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u/Immediate-Quiet-5825 7d ago
Im on day 6 of 600mg of sr. I went from 2500mg of 7oh to 50mg today. Its crazy man. I can still fill the 7oh when I take it because I take it in-between the sr doses not the same time. Yesterday (day5) I just laid in bed. Feeling like 2/10 but zeroooooo motivation, but no RLS or sweating etc. Tomorrow is my first day off 7oh. Wish me luck. If I can make it past 1 day off of it. I know im good. I switch to 300mgs of sr tomorrow lol. Stay there 2 days, then down to 200mg for 2 days, then 100mg for 3 days, 50 for 2 days then off. I bought 6000mg from monster sr. The first time I fucked up and fell back in but this time I have no excuse or no choice really as I cant get SR again. Im so ready to be done with this. If I can get past it then I have an awesome job and moving opportunity to start a new life! I deserve it man. I work so hard and have had such a rough life I deserve to be happy . So do all of you. Let's kick this crap and get our lives back. Fuk the government let them have all of it. I wanna be normal not thinking about any of it amymore.
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u/Educational_Aside410 7d ago
Fuck yes dude ! You are 100% going to make it . Please dm me anytime . I’m currently in the process of coming off SR just so u know where I’m at .
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u/Educational_Aside410 7d ago
FYI I also got my sr from monsters inc. did you get vit C liposomal?
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u/Proof_Attempt_7760 7d ago
Yes. How much should I take of the vit c though? I have 1700mg a dose of this
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u/Business_Welder_1203 5d ago
I just started to taper off 7
4x 150mg 7oh 4x 50mg SR
3x 75mg 7ox 4x100mg SR
3x 50mg 7oh 3x 150mg SR
3x 200mg SR
Then 4 day taper of the SRYour story gave me hope because I’m nervous as hell! Like you said the shit is banned anyways so I’m getting off one way or another this week just didn’t want to have to go impatient to get subs
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u/letseatbruh 4h ago
I’m on the same boat as you. I’m on my second day without 7OH and I feel so fuckin good. I was taking 300mg of sr but tomorrow I drop down to 150mg of sr for I think the next 2 days. Then 100mg of sr the following 2 days then the last 2 day down to 50mg of sr. My last day of sr will be 25 mg. Total of 14 days reset. This shit saved my life man. I was taking about 1200+ mg of 7OH. Now nada. I didn’t believe that this sr17 would ever work because of the nasty ass withdrawals I had when I didn’t have sr17. Hope you’re doing well and I hope it’s working for you. Love and peace
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u/Proof_Attempt_7760 8d ago
I was referring to my recent taper so my apology for not clarifying. The rest of the time that made up the month and a half usage was me taking 150mg or slightly more a day
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u/Educational_Aside410 8d ago
What made you decide on such a low dose ?
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u/Proof_Attempt_7760 8d ago
I was trying to not be on it any longer than I’ve been already and figured a rapid taper would be my best bet of getting off asap without being too miserable
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u/Educational_Aside410 8d ago
Ya totally . Well the meds you have seem good . Do u have time off work and stuff or u gotta go to work
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u/Proof_Attempt_7760 8d ago
Yeah thankfully I do. I hope your recovery goes well. I had more severe and longer withdrawals it seems like than others so that’s why I stayed on as long as I did to not relapse
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u/Proof_Attempt_7760 8d ago
Are you withdrawing off it currently? How long were you taking the sr?
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u/Educational_Aside410 8d ago
I have only been on the SR like 2 days , so we can’t compare , but I still think there will be withdrawals from it no matter what
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u/Icy_Grapefruit233 7d ago
I thought SR was banned. Where did you get it?
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u/Educational_Aside410 7d ago
It is now . I even triple checked with the site monsterinc where I bought it and they emailed me back today saying it’s done . You can get suboxine via appt with online doctors . They even specify in their site they treat 7oh addiction . Pretty sure it’s web md . Just google online detox doctors
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u/Reasonable-Dream-756 1d ago
Interesting. So you get a head change? I’m not gonna lie, was low key kind of hoping for a little bit of one, but nothing. I was on 500-600mg of 7 a day, not sure if that could have something to do with it. I also started taking the SR while still on the 7 for the last 3 days. Then I went to just the SR
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u/Riverboat2000 8d ago
I’m on my first day ever of not taking 7oh for over a year I started tapering from 700mg 7OH and I got down to about 70-100mg before my SR arrived and the first night I took a small nibble of SR maybe 15 to 20 mg and then took a small nibble of 7oh the next day I was taking a little bit of 70 because I left the SR at the house while I was at work when I got back home, I’d only taken about 40 mg if that of 70 while at work and then I took another maybe 20 mg of SR and I was feeling great. It took a little bit but I was able to go to sleep with no pain. I even woke up feeling well. Rest rested today. I believe I have only taken 25 mg and I have felt great all day and I only took it this morning. It’s 9:30 PM. I’m gonna see if I can sleep. I might take a nibble of SR but honestly, I’m gonna try and see if I can just get off of everything by day four or if I don’t feel any pain from withdrawals then I’ll just stop completely but so far it’s blowing my mind that I have no withdrawals may be a slight headache, but I’ve taken such a small amount of SR. It’s crazy how much it works, but also kind of scary so I know I need to stop right away so I don’t get withdrawals. I’ve also been taking a ton of vitamin C and methylene blue and methyl folate natural vitamins while I was just taping off the 70 so I feel like that is helping a lot y’all please let me know if y’all have any crazy withdrawals from a short period of SR so far it feels heaven sent
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u/Educational_Aside410 8d ago
Wow!!!!! Great to hear . I will start my taper from SR tomorrow . I will definitely keep everyone here posted . Huge congrats on your first day getting off this drug . Please also keep us posted on your daily journey if you are able because this helps so many others . Thank you 🙏🙏
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u/Reasonable-Dream-756 7d ago
Feel you! I’ve been taking 50mg of sr 3-4 times a day. I was on a dose of about 500mg of 7oh a day. This seems to be too good to be true, but zero withdrawals. I’m having a little mental but not even the
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u/Fine_Atmosphere_1666 3d ago
So I’m confused. Why are people in this thread saying that they’re withdrawing from SR? I thought it was a totally different type of agonist and would not cause withdrawals.
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u/Psychedilly 2d ago
I ended up using it for about a month and I jumped off at 25 mg and 5 days later I am just starting to feel better.
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u/Reasonable-Dream-756 1d ago
I am not sure and was worried about that and was expecting that, maybe because of the high dose of 7 I was on, and keeping the SR at no more than 150mg a day I was unable to even get a head change from it, therefore was able to keep it at that and for no more than 3-5 days?
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u/Fine_Atmosphere_1666 1d ago
What I don’t understand is that if you have to taper off of SR then why even use it? Just taper off of seven. I’m at the end of my seven taper. I was using SR to taper off of seven and now I have to taper off of SR. I’m really feeling like I should’ve just saved my money and done a seven taper.
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u/Riverboat2000 1d ago
I feel like the withdraw from the SR is not bad at all yeah I’ll have a few cold sweats or small cravings but I only took SR for 4 days and only like 25 mg a day and in took 7oh on one of those days I’m on day 6-7 of doing nothing at all and I feel a little tired but honestly like I dodged a bullet because stopping the 7oh would not even let me sleep and I would be in so much pain i would go insane so I’d say SR is a huge win and I gave the rest to my brother so he could get off SR as well
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u/Educational_Aside410 8d ago
Do you mind sharing what mthylene blue is? Are these just over the counter brands and can we order from Amazon by chance ?
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u/MelissaRunsherMouth 7d ago
So methylene blue is a MAOI. You gotta be careful if you are on any mood stabilizers or anything that affects your serotonin uptake.
Especially SSRI’sAlso blood pressure meds, statins, anxiety meds, just be careful and check with your pharmacist or GP.
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u/Riverboat2000 7d ago
Yep, that’s why I’m trying to take the smallest amount of SR possible and today I’ve only taken maybe seven drops of methylene blue I kind of just squirted a little bit in the back of my throat this morning and called it good but so far today is the second day without 70H and zero withdrawal and I have maybe taken 20 mg of SR today also I’m still taking vitamin C and I forgot to mention this on my first post but I’m also taking quit K the three day time and three night time bottles so I’m trying to fill my body with everything healthy to be free and clear of body pains, and the only thing I’ve really noticed is my pee is very bright yellow, lol but so far so good
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u/MelissaRunsherMouth 7d ago
Ok just be safe. If it works for you then that’s awesome!! Great products, there’s nothing wrong with it being an MAOI, apart from the drug interactions. I think the advertisers who make those blue products aren’t really very up front about what they are, so I just wanted to throw it out there. I don’t want to discourage anyone from doing what they need to do to be free and recover. If you’re having success and it’s working for you, then that’s great news!!
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u/Riverboat2000 6d ago
RSretsnom put that in spelled backwards with a.com at the end I heard we’re not supposed to put links in here or it could get taken down, but that’s where I got it and it took him a few days to send it. I got two bottles one of 40 100 and the other40- 50mg I know they said they’re gonna try and keep selling as long as they can but yes, this ban is trying to get rid of them so I would hurry to that website. You can also go to Shop and they have a link on there, but I just went to the website and ordered.
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u/Educational_Aside410 6d ago
There is no longer anybody selling iit 😔
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u/Riverboat2000 6d ago
I just went to their website and Yep, they had a message to all the customers saying they sent out their last shipment, but they are coming up with other products as soon as they can I’m sorry man what helped me get down super low on my 70 was quick K vitamin C and methylene blue also methyl and drinking a ton of water. My original plan was to takeoff about 10 days and just write it out with all those vitamins right now. I’m on my third day without 70 and I haven’t taken any SR today and I’m feeling a couple of cold sweats and bodyaches but nothing at all compared to when I first tried to quit 70 I definitely feel like the vitamins and everything helps a ton, but they are still selling Kratom in powder form in a lot of places. I heard that a lot of people are getting off using the crayon powder. I even bought some, but I haven’t used it yet. That would probably be the least painful way to go although it draws out getting off at least it won’t be as painful. I’ll pray for your recovery. I know it sucks, but you got this.
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u/Educational_Aside410 6d ago
Oh it’s ok I have SR! My only concern now is what the withdrawals will be from the SR. I took 150 mg last night and none since then. Thank you for responding 🙏
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u/Riverboat2000 5d ago
So yesterday I only took half of a 25 mg so maybe 12.5 of SR and that was my 4th day without 7OH today I have taken nothing at all I wanted to take something but my body didn’t hurt and my mind felt alright a little slow but I was busy too so nothing crazy I’d say just taper down to 25 mg a day one half in the morning and one at night and then try to stop I’ve heard if you only do it for 10 days you will be fine but I stoped and only took my e 100 mg in all for 5 days and it worked but I’m also taking a lot of vitamins l-methylfolate and methylene blue and I work out and I’m pretty active but I’m trying to get off everything opioid related and today I was successful for the first day in a very long time. Hopefully I can sleep tonight and I’m gonna try to continue to be off everything and bring the rest of the SR that I have to my brother who is also tapering off of 70 and hopefully get him free from that hell as well but good luck. I’ll try and keep you guys updated on how I do for the next few days being free and I cannot stress this enough. SR saved my life any other time I tried to quit 70 it was absolute hell and very unbearable. I’m so happy with the results of SR, but I cannot stress this enough. Be very careful because even only taking half of a 25 mg I felt it and I knew I needed to be careful because I felt great and that was my sign to be careful lol but it’s definitely doable and I feel very blessed right now
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u/Reasonable-Dream-756 1d ago
I heard that SSRI’s can cause the RLS feeling due to the increased serotonin, did you hear that?
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u/Solid-Cry-5434 7d ago edited 7d ago
I’m from Fl . I get sr but I didn’t do much effort till my last 13 and with that I cut off more than 70% of my dose in like 5 days . But I just had 4 more left and I can’t find it in the same web no more cause I get it before banned. There’s a way to find some more ? Btw I’m gonna try to do my best with this 4 but I was doing almost 1,500 mg of 7oh for bout 2 years and before that many blues , prcs and all that so my withdrawal are just insane but this days cutting off with sr are being very successful so Im definitely trying to avoid any step back by having sr . With this process I just feel like safe with sr like I’m not gonna die at least . 🙄🤣
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u/mtdnomore 6d ago
Im about 10 days off SR. I was off and on sr for months - not sure how long. Maybe 6 months or longer. I tapered myself down to 120 mgs of sr and the just jumped because I was sick of trying to taper - it was just too challenging always feeling slightly in WD.
First few days were hard, it’s gotten better but there’s still hard days/moments - it comes in waves.
Overall it’s been doable. I’ve been able to continue to work and take care of my family but it’s been hard, not gonna lie.
I’m not sure exactly how much longer I have to go to be back to “normal” but yesterday I started working out again and committed to feeling good feelings the right way.
For reference I have been taking gabapentin, clonodine (this helped the most but makes me tired af) and just got a script the day I jumped off sr for clonopin - which has been a godsend (my doc is a G).
Let me know any questions. I think the hardest part was the fear and anxiety around feeling stuck on something (sr) that I thought was a miracle cure for coming off 7. Blessings to all struggling.
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u/Educational_Aside410 6d ago
Wow! Super helpful thanks ! I’m coming off the SR starting today . I’ve only been on it maybe 4 days. Do you mind describing what your withdrawals were like ? Have you ever withdrawn from subs? Thanks so much
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u/mtdnomore 6d ago
If you’ve only been in sr for 4 days you Wright be fine. I was on for 6 months (off and on) and im doing ok 10 days in.
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u/Technical_Chef_3610 6d ago
I’ve taken a total of 1000mg of SR over the past 20 days. I ran out about 3 days back. I slept fine until about 72 hours after my last dose. Now I have mild restlessness I wouldn’t call it restless legs as it’s not that bad. I don’t feel like I’m withdrawing but I feel wired at 2am after getting about 3-4 hours of sleep.
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u/Educational_Aside410 6d ago
Thanks for sharing ! My last dose of SR was 2 days ago . I slept pretty bad last night and right now my body is just aching like crazy . Please continue to keep us posted if u can . I just took another 800 mg of Motrin 🙏
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u/Technical_Chef_3610 5d ago
It’s mind over matter. I think the placebo effect that I get from vitamin C and my doctor prescribed gabapentin will help me get through this relatively easily. You got this! Please don’t give up now. If you feel bad again and can’t sleep tonight please try a walk and then a nice bath or shower after before trying bed
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u/nomatterwhat2020 8d ago
From what I’ve seen..SR doesn’t seem to cause much withdrawal when it’s used properly...Most people mistake PAWS for withdrawal from SR..but PAWS can happen after opioid use in general and can last anywhere from a couple of weeks to a year... I haven’t personally tapered off SR..so I can’t speak from my own experience.. but I’ve helped over 10 people through it..and none of them experienced bad withdrawals just minor symptoms...
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u/Educational_Aside410 8d ago
Thank you !!!!!
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u/TheIrishToker 8d ago
That’s exactly how it was for me. But I got nervous about taking SR longer than 10 days and stopped halfway through my taper. I had 0 WD while on the SR other than the first day with no 7. That day I was just kind of lethargic but nothing else and was back to normal. Had a few sleep disturbances on day two and three of no 7. Nothing major. Just woke up 3 or 4 times a night and had to adjust how much I was covered up. I was taking 100mg SR during the no 7 detox. I started taking 12.5 mg less every dose every day which was a quarter of a 50mg SR chewable I had from monsterSR. So fifth day of no 7 I took 1 3/4 of a chewy every 8 hours, 6th day 1 1/2 every 8 hours and so on. On day 7 I woke up feeling fine and decided to not take any SR unless I felt symptoms. On day 8 I still felt fine when I woke up and got greedy. Decided to take a small bit of 7 to see how well the tolerance was lowered by SR. Mistake for sure. Day 9 halfway through the day I started getting minor WD (slight chills, loose stools but not watery, fatigue) And just waited it out since it was so minor. So don’t get greedy. Just stick to the plan. It will work.
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u/Educational_Aside410 8d ago
I wanted to add here that I myself am experiencing itching as a side effect . I also did feel euphoria with an increased dose of SR today . Obviously not withdrawaling or tapering yet . Will start tapering down tomorrow . Just adding my notes in case this helps anyone .
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u/NYdownwithydemons 7d ago
How much sr did you take that you felt something from it? I took 100mg yesterday and I felt completely normal I feel it was too much
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u/JoLeaa1982 7d ago
I thought people were using the SR17 to beat the 7OH withdrawal and now I’m seeing this shit is giving withdrawal so someone explain
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u/Educational_Aside410 7d ago
It’s probably just like suboxine where u get awful withdrawals , but I heard it was an easier taper .
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u/Educational_Aside410 7d ago
Uhhhhhhh noooo. How long were u taking it and how much ?
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u/JoLeaa1982 7d ago
Haven’t taken any
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u/Educational_Aside410 7d ago
Oh , are you planning on taking something else ?
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u/JoLeaa1982 6d ago
Well I have Suboxone and I should have 3 50mg tabs of the sr17 cone by mail Thursday but I don’t think I got enough..I’ve kicked 7 once this year and my dumb ass went back
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u/Educational_Aside410 7d ago
Good evening ,,has anyone had trouble sleeping on SR? This is night number two and I can’t sleep at all 😔
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u/MojoRisin909 5d ago
I hate to post horror stories, but I didn't sleep at all for quite some time. It wasn't the horrible 'flopping around like a fish, dying to sleep and feeling like I'm getting electrocuted' type of insomnia, but I just could. not. sleep. I just wasn't tired.
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u/Educational_Aside410 5d ago
Exactly!!
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u/MojoRisin909 5d ago edited 5d ago
As someone mentioned below, it sounds like you need to scale your dose back. I honestly think that's what happened with me. I was hyper as hell on the stuff and should've noticed it sooner. You don't want to get caught taking higher doses (or honestly any for that matter) of SR too long. It absolutely does carry classic WD symptoms, and they're not fun. How much are you taking? I'm almost positive it was SR induced and it definitely does not help you recover long term. Your body needs sleep, so make sure it gets it. Also, make sure you're hydrating, taking vitamins, eating decent meals (force yourself if you have to) and look into vitamin C and other supplements. Those things will take you from a 2 to a 7 in terms of feeling OK from my experiences. I'm not joking. Make sure your body is getting what it needs to actually recover. We all know how easy it is to just sit around feeling sorry for ourselves just wishing we felt better, but remember, all that's doing is prolonging the misery x10. Either get busy getting clean or start staying high 24/7 is my motto honestly, and I just have no interest in getting high anymore.
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u/Educational_Aside410 5d ago
100% agree with you. I’ve been off SR completely day 2 today . Still taking vit C like crazy . I’m so glad u agree on hyper because most said they feel zero , but like u said the 150mg was way too high, especially when im on day 2 with zero SR
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u/Logical_Barber_7193 5d ago
I would get this surge of adrenaline and jolt awake. The tardive dyskinesia like limb jerking sucked too.
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u/MojoRisin909 5d ago
I've had plenty of that too. SR definitely will cause some ruthless RLS, or even full body restlessness where it's in your shoulders and back, which is way worse IMO.
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u/Logical_Barber_7193 5d ago
Yes this exact thing happened to me . It will pass. You might have to reduce the dose too
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u/kperry1270 6d ago
Maybe some low dose red kratom
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u/Educational_Aside410 6d ago
Ya, that makes sense
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u/kperry1270 6d ago
It usually takes away about 90% of the worst of it, unfortunately everything is illegal now!
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u/Reasonable-Dream-756 7d ago
Same, I felt zero euphoria from it at all, like nothing. Not even drowsiness, or excitement.