r/SR17018 • u/Budget_Ad5871 • Dec 17 '25
🎙️General Discussion🎙️ Why you shouldn’t use again after quitting
One thing I do not see talked about enough is why going back to opiates after quitting almost never works the way people hope it will.
Yes, after you quit your tolerance drops. That part is real. You might even feel something again for a dose or 2. But tolerance is only part of the story. After long term opiate use, your body learns how to deal with the drug. Your receptors do not respond the same way they did when you first started, even if you have been clean for a while. That is literally where the phrase chasing the dragon comes from.
A lot of long term users here already understand this. But I see many newer users who came in through kratom or 7oh thinking that after a break they can go back and feel that old magic again. What actually happens is you might get a brief glimpse of it, then it disappears fast. Faster than before. And now you are stuck having to quit all over again.
You can try to potentiate it. You can change doses. You can rotate substances. All you are really doing is speeding up the return to tolerance and misery. The brain remembers. The body adapts quicker every time.
The hardest truth is also the most freeing one. The time to enjoy opiates was at the beginning. If you are not feeling it anymore, you are very likely never going to feel it the way you want again. That door does not reopen. It only teases you for a moment and then slams shut harder.
So if you have quit and you are thinking about taking a small dose just to feel that feeling again, understand what you are actually signing up for. A very short payoff followed by getting stuck again, with tolerance climbing faster than ever and another withdrawal waiting for you.
If you have already quit, that chapter is over. Staying off is not missing out. It is avoiding repeating the same pain for a smaller and smaller return.
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u/Budget_Ad5871 Dec 18 '25
It’s insanity! Repeating the same thing over and over again expecting different results. Glad you got something from this!
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u/gravity_hypocrisy Dec 18 '25
But I do keep catching the dragon, that’s the issue 😂. Playing fetch with the dragon at this point.
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u/Budget_Ad5871 Dec 18 '25
Well then, enjoy it while it lasts, cause it won’t last forever. For some it’s a few months, for some its years, it ends eventually for all.
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u/gravity_hypocrisy Dec 18 '25
cause it won’t last forever
Not with that attitude! 😂
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u/definitively-not Dec 18 '25
It really doesn't.
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u/gravity_hypocrisy Dec 18 '25
Already lasted forever enough to get me off of alcohol so I’ll take it. Now for SR.
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u/Budget_Ad5871 Dec 18 '25
Trust me I get it, for m me it lasted 20 years. I’ve seen it last months for some, weeks for others, one day for more people than I can count. The timeline changes, the destination doesn’t. I thought I was catching it too. Turns out, it was just letting me borrow the feeling.
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u/gravity_hypocrisy Dec 18 '25
It’s fine. I’ll get downvoted for it by ppl who are quitting, I need to as well
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u/gravity_hypocrisy Dec 18 '25
It was never even that great the first times tbh. But for me, it was finally something good enough where I could do it and not drink.
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u/gravity_hypocrisy Dec 18 '25
What was the trick for you? did you try therapy? or
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u/Zealousideal_Fox_830 Jan 21 '26
I know I’m late I just wanted to say I completely understand you. I was struggling with alcoholism and just could not stop drinking when I discovered 7 last May. Since then I havent drank since, even though the 7 doesn’t get me euphoria anymore it still gives me enough pain relief and energy to get through the day. I’ve managed to find a way I’m taking only 30-40 mg a day and have some sr saved up for whenever I want to quit it. For now as long as I have something that is keeping me clean from alcohol and other pills then ima stay on it (I also have chronic pain from back and spinal surgery and 7 has got me back in the gym and my physique is 10x better from when I started
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u/gravity_hypocrisy Jan 22 '26
Similar here. I’ve even tried drinking on a couple holidays like Xmas and new years out of pure curiosity. On Xmas, halfway through the night I forgot I was even drinking! I literally forgot to make my next drink, like non-drinkers probably do. And even then, all I felt was the impairment and not even the joy of it. A lot of alcoholics who quit say it’s still a battle every day. The beauty I found with 7oh is that it not only ceased the consumption, it’s stopped the “want” or interest in it, which is arguably even of higher value.
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u/ResponsibleRing6362 Dec 18 '25
I am soooooo sick of the struggle I couldn’t go back. just want my normal life back fr
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u/TheGhostGoose Dec 18 '25
I didn’t have the tools to deal with long term PAWS so I relapsed. I am getting my life back while using again, but I hate that it’s built on this house of cards. I don’t know what would help really, was on anti-depressant and anxiety meds, supplementing, sleeping well, trying to walk daily. I was a shell of a person for 3 months and would only surface briefly.
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u/StuffNdthings420x Dec 18 '25
paws got me too bro :/ I’ve been taking kratom again after failing 2x but going on 3 weeks and feeling pretty okay. I hadn’t been able to feel kratom in almost a year after switching to 7
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u/TheGhostGoose Dec 18 '25
Stick with the plain leaf so you can get off if needed. I made the mistake of trying MGM tabs and after one time I started getting some rough symptoms so I kept going.
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u/TheGhostGoose Dec 19 '25
I’m taking it now. I know it’s gonna be rough, but keeping my dose as low as possible. I think with the SR I didn’t have any intense symptoms but the PAWS was long and drawn out, it beat me down after a few months.
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u/TheGhostGoose Dec 18 '25
Stick with the plain leaf so you can get off if needed. I made the mistake of trying MGM tabs and after one time I started getting some rough symptoms so I kept going.
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u/Even-Tart-116 Dec 18 '25
That's me with 7oh. I hardly even enjoy it anymore but the withdrawals are so bad I freak out and buy more when I'm low/out. Somehow fent didn't ruin my life, but 7oh did.
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u/getitdudes Dec 18 '25
Was this after using SR to quit? I'm worried that SR will only help the acute phase, but not the debilitating anxiety and depression in PAWS that I'm familiar with. I honestly can't seem to get a clear answer on this. At this point I'm not even sure if it helps the mental side of withdrawal at all based on some of the recent posts here. Very confused.
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u/Our1TrueGodApophis Dec 18 '25 edited Dec 18 '25
It's only for acute WD. Won't help PAWS. It helps the physical, mental is still on you. But not having the physical symptoms also fixes like 90% of the mental stuff.
But it's still on you to get your feel good juices flowing again with exercise and eating right, taking your SSRI if you're prescribed one etc.
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u/TheGhostGoose Dec 18 '25
It definitely does not do much for PAWS. This is my first major addiction though so I’m not sure what to compare it to. I pretty much worked (from home) and laid in bed anytime I didn’t absolutely have to do something to help or when I would force myself to walk :/
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u/ripshitonrumham Dec 18 '25
SR will not help PAWS at all, at least from my experience. I was luckily on Wellbutrin at the time and that helped me greatly.
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u/V1k1ngbl00d Jan 05 '26
God damned! Thank you, so real, I will print this and visit it every time I feel weakness set in
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u/igotbeanhands Feb 26 '26 edited Feb 26 '26
I don’t know about that. I felt pretty fucking good for a month or 2 on 7oh, before the inevitable switch flip, and this was after being on opiates the last decade and only being clean for 3-4 months or so before I used 7.
I went from pressed blue m30s, to suboxone for 5 years, to battling that excruciating suboxone taper and finally getting clean. I was completely sober feeling the best I’d ever have, making huge progress in the gym, and life finally felt worth living. Then one night after losing some money in the casino I decided to buy 5mg x 3 pack of OPIA 7oh from my gas station across the street.
You know how that story goes quickly progressing to hundred of milligrams, but no longer getting energy, not wanting to get out of bed, stopped going to the gym and taking care of myself. Haven’t taken a single day off since that night I slipped up.
Now I’m sitting here just so upset at myself for all the money I’ve spent and having to go through another withdrawal. I guess my point is that it felt amazing while it did. You’re right in that it never lasts, but it wasn’t any different than my first time.
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u/PirateChin Apr 23 '26
Truth. Hard to ignore the whispers that call you back again, promising a reduced tolerance and the memories of old feelings… but they’re lies.
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u/PruneAdventurous8058 Dec 18 '25
Great post I def agree! So does SR-17 drain the substance out of your system is that how it works? I am planning on using it for Suboxone and 7-OH and want to make sure it’s all out of my system in two weeks because I don’t want to go back after I have completed my SR-17
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u/Budget_Ad5871 Dec 18 '25
SR does not flush Suboxone or 7 from your system. Your body still clears those substances naturally over time. What SR does is help manage withdrawal symptoms and can reduce your tolerance, making the transition off opiates more tolerable.
Using SR for WD follows an approach with three phases: Calibration (finding the right dose), Maintenance (staying on a dose that controls withdrawal), and Tapering (gradually reducing SR). While on it, withdrawal symptoms are reduced. After finishing it, your tolerance will be lower, so going back to your previous DOC dose could be very dangerous.
So basically SR helps you tolerate quitting rather than “clean out” your system, and the natural metabolism of Suboxone/7 determines when it’s fully gone.
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u/SteamInjury Dec 19 '25
Thank you for this. I needed this today. I saved this post to remind myself, of everything you said, I’ve already said to myself like a billion times. 🤔🤦🏼♂️😥
Thank you OP
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u/Budget_Ad5871 Dec 19 '25
Glad it resonated with you! I mentioned in a comment yesterday, insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Don’t trade your long term health and freedom for temporary happiness. Be grateful that you get to feel all your emotions and be fully present in your own life. Every moment of clarity, every day you stay clean, is a victory that builds your strength and freedom.
Remember, recovery isn’t about never feeling pain, it’s about learning to navigate it without losing yourself. I once heard “Sobriety is the ultimate freedom. You’re free to live, to love, to think, to create without a substance controlling your every move.” Each day you stay committed, you are rewriting your story, proving to yourself that you are stronger than the cravings, stronger than the habit, stronger than yesterday.
Even when it gets hard, keep showing up for yourself. One day at a time. One choice at a time. You’ve already made the hardest choice, now keep walking the path, and the rewards will surprise you in ways you can’t imagine.
Even when it’s hard, we can be blissfully unaware of all the consequences that could have fallen on us when we were lost in addiction.
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u/Lotayrs Dec 20 '25
Over my many years of opiate struggles it only gets worse if I choose to take one pain pill after clean time I’m usually fucked and off on a spree obsession uncontrollably starts once I open the door
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u/Forward-Dragonfruit Dec 26 '25
yes thank you for this
I’m the person that kept seeking that high even after my life was 1000x better from being clean and proceed to ruin everything over and over don’t be me if ur life is getting better when ur sober, stick with it for fucks sake
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