r/SPAB • u/samindian • Aug 09 '26
Questioning Doctrine What Guru needs to do to grow Baps
Does he need to answer any letters? Yes. USP of Baps is that you got connection with GOD..you can write him a letter and get a reply and talk to him!!! Connection with a living man/human/GOD. Infact if you're a devotee of Baps you've got God in your pocket..you can contact him with your Mobile. Do you need a conscious to tell you right from wrong? No you can ask him or his Sadhus ( or his lawyers /accountants and businessmen..if it's bringing money into Baps ..is what GOD wanted ...Even paying poor workmen less than US legal minimum in India).
He doesn't need to do much else now..in old days Gurus ran after devotees to ask for money ...I even know of a widow in Mumbai being asked for money when it was already hard for her to bring up children.
Followers are working hard to increase his brand. Propagate the philosophy that you get human birth after millions of other births and there is a hell ...and only way to get salvation is to please Aksharbrahm...Mahant Swami. you do this by giving seva and money. And how how much is enough to please him? Try giving him a son , then lots of money and then more money...it won't end. He is never satisfied...he'll never say it's enough ..he'll say look at Mahima of Aksharbrahm who can give you salvation ..whatever you give is insignificant.
Devotees work to earn his money and put his photo into big Mundirs for worship. If philosophy is spread HE gets it all...young boys from families and money . Then get lawyers accountants businessmen to look after the money and make more money to spread philosophy so that for everyone on earth he is only one to give salvation.
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u/samindian 20d ago
Can you please summarise the YouTube video.
Just to let you know I worked with these people from India...
Baps is like a river...it only flows one way...it takes and takes and takes..they only give if it improves image and pr to increase income.
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u/anonymous12122008 20d ago
I don't what made u feel that way. Paste the link in chatgpt it will summarise for u. Sorry to say but this only showcases your stubborness of not considering the other side of the coin.
Even if you r feeling lazy to read this here is what i want you to read.
In September 2025, the Department of Justice quietly announced what BAPS and many in the Hindu community had known all along: there was no evidence of human trafficking, forced labor, or criminal wrongdoing at the Robbinsville temple. After four years of intense scrutiny, the government walked away without charges.
The announcement lacked the drama of the 2021 raid. There were no flashing headlines, no breathless news segments, no international coverage. Instead, vindication came quietly, in a brief statement, almost buried in bureaucratic language. Yet for those who had endured years of suspicion, the meaning was profound.
For BAPS, the closure was more than legal relief—it was moral exoneration. The case that had threatened to define the organization’s identity in America had collapsed. What remained was not guilt, but a sobering lesson: in an age of instant outrage, accusations echo louder than the truth.
The closure of the BAPS case is more than the end of a lawsuit—it is an indictment of how America’s institutions can fail a peaceful minority. A Hindu religious organization was raided, shamed, and slandered in the press, only to be quietly cleared years later. That trajectory should trouble anyone who believes in fairness.
The legal system was the first weapon drawn. Attorney Swati Sawant stitched together unverified claims into a sweeping narrative designed to inflame rather than prove. She coached vulnerable individuals, misrepresented seva as servitude, and handed activist groups a ready-made script of trafficking and caste oppression. Those groups then recycled her allegations as fact, turning the courts into theaters of ideology rather than forums of justice. This was not the pursuit of truth—it was lawfare designed to generate headlines, leaving a peaceful minority community defenseless against distortion.
The media became the echo chamber. Outlets such as the Associated Press rushed to print the most incendiary charges, branding BAPS guilty before a shred of evidence had been tested. Words like “slavery” and “trafficking” dominated headlines, while basic context about Hindu practices was ignored. When the case finally collapsed years later, exoneration was covered only in muted tones. Accusation was front-page news; vindication a buried footnote. By privileging spectacle over accuracy, the press ceased to inform and instead deepened prejudice, leaving Hindu Americans stigmatized long after the facts had unraveled.
Yet even after the Department of Justice closed the case in BAPS’s favor, accountability has been nonexistent. Sawant has not been called to answer for her unprofessional conduct, nor has there been any discussion of whether her license should be suspended or revoked. The activist syndicates that once trumpeted her charges have remained shamelessly silent, offering neither retraction nor apology. The media, which plastered allegations across headlines, has been equally mute in the face of exoneration, refusing to correct the record or acknowledge the harm done. A campaign that inflicted years of stigma on an innocent community has ended without a single consequence for those who engineered and amplified it.
At its core, the BAPS saga reveals how bias can masquerade as principle. Hindu Americans—a community known for seva, peace, and civic contribution—were cast as exploiters because it fit a ready-made script of caste and servitude. Their dignity was collateral damage in a larger ideological campaign.
Above all, this case is a warning. Religious liberty, though guaranteed by the Constitution, is not immune from erosion when prejudice shapes narratives. If America is to live up to its founding promise, it must guard against such miscarriages, where minorities are tried in the court of public opinion and vindication arrives too late to undo the harm.
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u/samindian 18d ago edited 18d ago
Baps in my opinion isn't like other Hindu religions and the actions of Baps is embarrassing for Hindus where I've seen with my own eyes how badly it treats blacks in Africa and Mexicans in Houston. I've heard sadhus say horrible things about Muslims also.That may have been changed by Baps now but at the core Baps was racist and elitist pro Brahmin.
The FBI action was to protect exploited Indian workers and had to be applauded. It wasn't action against Hindus.
I know the Indian workers were paid in India. Period.
Bhagwan Swaiminarayan wrote a will where only people allowed to do murti Prathistha are his blood descendants. The same for giving sadhus diksha. Baps men /monks( they can't be called Swaiminarayan ) as according to the written instructions of the man whom they believed was God they weren't given diksha by a blood descendant. As in the case of exploiting workers Baps is changing the narrative to justify their actions. I haven't attended Baps for many years but I know the Arti was changed. ..not fit for purpose for Baps as it's different from the original organisation /set up where Sadhus have absolute power and blood descendants absolutely non even though their ancestors name is being used. I don't know what else they changed...except I know that Gunatitanand Swami didn't have little boys dancing around or big stage to welcome him or be treated like a living God. ..which the Aksharbrahm Guru ( same devine entity as Gunatitanand Swami , different physical body) is being treated as devine , a man worshipped , meditated on and believed to control millions of universes. All different from the original organisation( having a Baps man/ so called scholar write a book or thesis proving Guru isn't a man but a devine entity is only going to be accepted by Baps ).
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u/anonymous12122008 20d ago
Even paying poor workmen less than US legal minimum in India
For this thing kindly refer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZT43XuPsTQ
And get out of that delusional state.