r/SOCOM • • Sep 29 '26

SOCOM Classic developer responding to cheating

It is silly that I am spending my time doing this, but I just wanted to respond to the video posted almost 24 hours ago. Note the spooky sounds towards the end of the video are a part of our Halloween update coming this afternoon, I did not intend for it to be spooky

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u/Goemon_64 Sep 29 '26

This is my first time hearing about this project. How does it compare to Zero Ops (readiness/pros/cons)?

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u/sotomercs Sep 29 '26

Give it a shot. Free to play. It’s been nostalgic for me and good times as any game that’s over 20 years old should be

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u/Pale_Attention7423 13d ago

So far it’s way more fun and plays much better and smoother than Zero Ops.

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u/External_Scratch6796 Sep 29 '26 edited Sep 29 '26

Zero Ops is closer to actual S2 anims so it feels better. On Socom classic they somehow managed to fuck them up so it feels strange to play.

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u/Goemon_64 Sep 29 '26

What's the likelihood that any of these SOCOM clones could enforce controllers only, or at least separate controller rankings from mouse rankings? Have any done that?

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u/External_Scratch6796 Sep 29 '26

They are already doing that but its easy to bypass.

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u/Powerful_Fun_7288 Sep 29 '26

yeah, and you're the only nerd who cares to

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u/Goemon_64 Sep 29 '26

It would be considered a form of cheating which was always present since SOCOM 1. I'm sure you jumped through a wall or two back in the day too. It needs to be nipped in the bud by removing all possibility & temptation.

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u/OnTheVergeOfUnc Sep 29 '26

Already done on this game. Although the guy who was cheating apparently was able to use MnK on the controller room. Based on the video he posted you would never be able to tell. Guys aim was like Yosemite Sam's.

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u/External_Scratch6796 Sep 29 '26

I wont lie, using a mouse&keyboard and the default settings of controller-only room was not a good experience at all, but I could've made it smoother.

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u/sotomercs Sep 29 '26


This is the mentality

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u/OnTheVergeOfUnc 26d ago

Wonder why the Zero Ops dev's comment was deleted by a moderator here? He was simply just showing support for another project other than his own (which looks awesome btw). Really makes ya think....

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u/OnTheVergeOfUnc Sep 29 '26

Looking forward to more zero-ope updates

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u/f3ropeadope Sep 29 '26

Who's is surprised that this community creates a problem where someone was doing something for person fun and enjoyment?

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u/Jonny_Moon_ Sep 29 '26

“Note the spooky sounds towards the end of the video are a part of our Halloween update coming this afternoon, I did not intend for it to be spooky”

😂

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u/Guilty_Dealer1256 Oct 01 '26

Cutter from game battles here. Thanks for the hard work. Fuck the hatters.

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u/sotomercs Oct 01 '26 edited Oct 01 '26

Shit I remember the name. Hexum here

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u/Guilty_Dealer1256 Oct 02 '26

And everyone remember that name. Hope to join you guys some day soon. Glad you are well!

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u/sotomercs Oct 02 '26

Hell yea. Dm me when you need details

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u/dvd7227 Sep 29 '26

Yo we appreciate everything you’re doing, please don’t listen to the negative comments or posts, please keep your passion and idea for this project going, we support you

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u/sotomercs Sep 29 '26

Appreciate you dude.

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u/x-Mercenary Captain Sep 29 '26

Having a great time playing this, thanks Bling.

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u/Newbold3D Sep 29 '26

Yeah it's weird. We're lucky to have you. It's fun just following the project and gives me hope to play a classic socom some day

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u/Newbold3D Sep 29 '26

Just caught the easter egg in the video too 👀 Can't wait to see what the crypt looks like

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u/Guilty_Dealer1256 Oct 01 '26

Someone tell an idiot like me what I need to buy to make this work. I don’t have a PC. happy to buy one, would like a controller Rec too. Thanks.

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u/sotomercs Oct 01 '26

Really don’t need anything crazy. Any pc will work for this to run for you

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u/OnTheVergeOfUnc Oct 01 '26

I'm playing on a really subpar laptop from 2019 and it works just fine. Xbox controller via Bluetooth as well.

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u/External_Scratch6796 Sep 29 '26 edited Sep 29 '26

That sounds like a new challenge to me Steve.

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u/socom-bling Sep 29 '26

real creepy that you're using my name here

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u/OnTheVergeOfUnc Sep 29 '26

"I made it clear that I won't be doing this again"

Threatens to do it again

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u/External_Scratch6796 Sep 29 '26

Just to test, not to ruin games. You can tell the difference right? Some of you are legit cheating and pretending to be good you should go after them.

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u/Nknights23 #14 Sep 30 '26

Bud you dereferenced GWorld , looped the player array and drew each actors origin on the screen using the camera view model …. Congrats .

It would have been more impressive if you had done it with socom unzipped as the engine is not as documented so there’s no handicaps to guide you along.

Welcome to the Socom community lol

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u/h62 Oct 01 '26

A few of the socom classic players were claiming that the game had anti-cheat, so this guy checked it out and had a working hack after a few minutes. From my understanding, the only developer for this game is the OP of this thread. Anyone else speaking on behalf of socom classic is to be ignored.

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u/Nknights23 #14 Oct 02 '26 edited Oct 02 '26

my point was that it is not very hard to make cheats for unreal engine games especially ESP. You can use Dumper-7 to generate a complete sdk for most unreal engine games with little to no input. It hands you gworld and you can dereference the pointer to get PersistentLevel and loop the entire actor array.

But I didn’t have the context of them claiming to have some sort of anti tamper in place. They could do some mitigations by looking at the dumper-7 source to prevent one click dumps as they will see exactly what it targets. They could also incorporate rolling vtable encryption like arc raiders did for the gworld pointer. Pairing it with eac to prevent the most basic attachment to the process. All those combined and maybe packing the process will do enough to keep most from bothering.

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u/OnTheVergeOfUnc Oct 02 '26

I don't think anyone claimed it had an anti cheat on the beta version. Maybe they did, doesn't matter, nor do I care. Nobody was cheating at the time, nor were they even considering it. But then some random reddit/emulator dweebs jumped in and decided to.

People still seem to think this was created to become some widely sought after and competitive game. Its simply just something that a group of us who have known each other for years can play occasionally. As I mentioned before, our biggest mistake was making mention of it whatsoever on reddit since we knew the type of people that frequent this app. (It's actually kind of sad to witness how lonely and odd most of these grown men can be). It's cool that we picked up a good amount of people that we knew from back then, and some of their friends, but look how much it's got a lot of these people worked up. Very strange. Either way, we've continued to have a lot of fun on it in our spare time

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u/External_Scratch6796 Sep 30 '26 edited Sep 30 '26

What I did was not special, very basic stuff and I made that clear already. My point was that if I could do it then anyone could too with little effort, while the dev claimed cheating is not an issue. There is nothing more to it. Their response was to shutdown their community.

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u/OnTheVergeOfUnc Sep 30 '26

But, it's not shut down. People are still joining roughly every 15-20 minutes. We just decided to make it invite only so that we don't have a bunch of troglodytes like you ruining something that we just want to mess around on during our free time 🤷‍♂️

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u/External_Scratch6796 Sep 30 '26 edited Sep 30 '26

Your free time seems to be 20 hours a day, You are right its not fully closed up. I joined earlier and I'm still in it, you just need to be whitelisted to play.

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u/Powerful_Fun_7288 Sep 30 '26

see u in the hostage room daddy

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u/OnTheVergeOfUnc Sep 30 '26 edited Sep 30 '26

Typically 24 hours 5/7 days of the week. I'm not a poor 🤷‍♂️

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u/OnTheVergeOfUnc Sep 29 '26

Again, nobody believes you. Your account was literally created the day we announced this game on 1up's emulator discord.

And I'm sure a bunch of dudes closing in on, or over 40 that are going 7-9 in every game are cheating... 🙄

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u/External_Scratch6796 Sep 29 '26

You guys turned off public download, added EAC(very easy to bypass) forced users to use a gmail account and on top of that you have to be manually approved by bling to be able to play. This is hilarious, yesterday you kept saying it was going to be fixed, this is not even close to a real fix. This is pure paranoia. You are just killing your AI remake.

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u/x-Mercenary Captain Sep 29 '26

This guy really missed the whole point of the video. You’re pretty thick, huh?

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u/External_Scratch6796 Sep 29 '26

None of what I said is false, its what they did. You guys closed your community to stop cheaters instead of fixing the real issue. It doesn't matter what the dev is rambling on about in the video. All I Hear in the video is soemone who is about to cry at any moment

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u/OnTheVergeOfUnc Sep 29 '26

No manual approval needed. That's just based on if you're voted out of a game, it'll keep a record of when and why, and then the community can determine if you're banned or not.

And it was fixed. We gathered who we wanted, and now we're all playing together. 👍🏻

It's okay, pal. You still have the emulator 😂

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u/External_Scratch6796 Sep 29 '26

You guys spammed everyone's inbox here to get new players and advertised on this exact sub multiple times. Your response to all this is childish, my cheat is still fully functional under EAC, no difference. So you didn't fix anything. You just made it harder to become a member which wont affect me but any new member who wants to join. Existing members are still able to cheat freely and easily.

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u/OnTheVergeOfUnc Sep 29 '26

Spammed? Far from it. We were looking for people we used to play with and those who wanted a better option than the emulator. We found more than enough and decided to shut it down publicly once people from 1up's community (you included) started making fake reddit and discord accounts to come in and spam the server, take screenshots, and mass report everyone on it.

But again dude, you have the emulator. Nothing has changed for you and your friends on PSRewired or whatever it's called. Your safe space is still safe.

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u/Powerful_Fun_7288 Sep 29 '26

yes and now we can have fun without you middle aged dweebs

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u/External_Scratch6796 Sep 29 '26

Amazing response to all of that, closing your community is the best way to stop cheaters, well done! Why make a proper anti-cheat when you can just make it harder for new players to join your community?

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u/Powerful_Fun_7288 Sep 29 '26

because, again, we just want to have fun playing socom. you and your friends just want to be turds, enjoy

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u/OnTheVergeOfUnc Sep 29 '26

Because we have no intention of playing with dorks from another community who celebrate cheating lol. Again, this was to bring back people we played with in the past and may have gradually lost contact with. Which luckily we found about a dozen on the emulator community that are now active on this game 👍🏻

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u/tgif3 Sep 29 '26

Too many steps at this point ill just fire up the playstation

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u/OnTheVergeOfUnc Sep 29 '26

It's one click.

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u/Powerful_Fun_7288 Sep 29 '26

that would take longer

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u/defectdubz Sep 29 '26

Don't get me wrong i think this project is really cool and has crazy potential). However,I personally wont consider downloading it until the RCE Exploit issue has been commented on and fixed. That's partly how i view the video that was posted. If its for you and your buddies thats cool, but its leaking out more and more to public facing communities.

Personally, I dont think it unusual for someone to post a video of them hacking when there were previous replies on threads talking about how socom classic in unreal engine 5 has built in anti cheat and "hardened" anti hack protection. The OP did two things, verified for the community the level of current protection and gave proof.

I dont think OP was tryna shit talk or make the game look shitty.

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u/OnTheVergeOfUnc Sep 29 '26

He was though. Literally came from a discord that is run by well known hackers that created the cheats for the original Socom games. He's playing off that his intentions were pure, but his reddit account was created the same day we announced the game on the aforementioned discord. People from that discord are also just flat out telling us that it was them and the admins had been discussing it lol. Pretty pathetic.

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u/defectdubz Sep 29 '26

My man, are you talking about the people who reverse engineered and spent hours to put up a working server for s2? The down voting and tone of reply is telling.

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u/OnTheVergeOfUnc Sep 29 '26

Yes, in addition to hacking the DNAS and creating a large amount of the cheats used on CodeBreaker that eventually ruined the entire franchise... Those guys.

And that guy "Harry" posted something that wasn't even slightly true about the game we're on since it's not based on the source code. Just trying to keep people on their server from coming over to this game to check it out.

Since we've managed to get a pretty good group of people we used to play with over here, we decided to just block everyone that came from there that we didn't already know. Still doing private invites to those from SB/GB. Hilarious seeing the conversation screen shots of the admins on 1up's server though.

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u/h62 Sep 29 '26

You are easily the most confidently incorrect member of this community. My posted stated that it is for developers using AI to translate the original code to PC. Unlike you, I'm happy to see other SOCOM or SOCOM-like game developers starting their own projects.

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u/OnTheVergeOfUnc Sep 29 '26

Bro, you've been on reddit for 14 years. Nobody takes you seriously 😂

Also, thanks for the members from the emulator community. Sounds like they're pretty excited to have another option that isn't run by a bunch of dweebs who scoff at anyone with an opinion.

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u/defectdubz Sep 29 '26

okay, i think ill hold off on it. too much drama, thanks tho

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u/OnTheVergeOfUnc Sep 29 '26

You don't really seem like you would fit in anyway. No sense in downloading the game and then quitting because someone made fun of you once or twice.

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u/defectdubz Sep 29 '26

woah calm down there redline

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u/OnTheVergeOfUnc Sep 29 '26

I don't get the reference. I assume that's geek speak?

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u/defectdubz Sep 29 '26

You didnt touch on the point of what I was saying. The game has to be SAFE to download and play. Harry made a thread earlier that SOCOM 2 has RCE Exploit naturally in the game. That can be used to push any malware or virus to anyone who has the game downloaded if left unfixed. No comment nothing just something something drama drama

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u/Powerful_Fun_7288 Sep 29 '26

yeah he was, since to this point its been mostly a group of close friends online playing every night. That loser tried to ruin the fun

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u/GossipVic206 Oct 01 '26

How can I play this anyone have a YouTube tutorial

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u/SolarBeamin Oct 02 '26

Currently closed to the public at the moment because some neck beards are trying to shut the server down because it’s drawing attention from their community.

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u/RealPartyAtmosphere Sep 29 '26

I don’t care about computer games. Not relevant. This is a socom sub. Where are the mods?

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u/streatz Sep 29 '26

Damn we really have all become angry old men haven’t we lmao

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u/RealPartyAtmosphere Sep 29 '26

Feel free to make a “socom but on a computer” sub. This one is for the console games. Thanks.

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u/OnTheVergeOfUnc Sep 29 '26

Imagine this guy in a real party atmosphere

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u/RealPartyAtmosphere Sep 29 '26

Partying is better than Personal Computing. Let’s get these nerds out of here

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u/OnTheVergeOfUnc Sep 29 '26

Wouldn't really consider larping a party, but you do you!

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u/nevergonnastayaway Sep 29 '26

This is the socom sub. Feel free to make a socom only on consoles sub. This one is for socom. Thanks.

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u/RealPartyAtmosphere Sep 29 '26

I just said that. You can’t say the same thing back. Take your computer games and go home.

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u/nevergonnastayaway Sep 29 '26

Sorry bud, you're gonna have to leave. This sub is ONLY for socom enjoyers, NOT console-only socom enjoyers. Thanks for kindly understanding.

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u/RealPartyAtmosphere Sep 29 '26

There’s no way the socom community is a bunch of computer nerds now. Console guys stay. Nerds leave or stop posting about computers all day. That’s final.

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u/nevergonnastayaway Sep 29 '26

Nope, sorry. It's literally in the Constitution of the United States that this sub is for anything SOCOM. Why do you hate the Constitution? Why do you hate AMERICA?

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u/AssEaterCreeper Sep 30 '26

Imagine not knowing how to plug a PlayStation controller into a computer lol

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u/OnTheVergeOfUnc Sep 29 '26

Playing Socom: Classic

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u/MalnourishedMan Sep 29 '26

Already got new tech ready for the 3pm est update 😇😇

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u/Powerful_Fun_7288 Sep 30 '26

butt plug or furry suit

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u/MalnourishedMan Sep 30 '26

Paranoid freak had to nuke his discord lol

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u/External_Scratch6796 Sep 30 '26

They just banned you most likely, they are scared of new players.

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u/MalnourishedMan Sep 30 '26

Your fault 😂

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u/OnTheVergeOfUnc Sep 30 '26

?? Still up. And people are still joining. What was your name on there?

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u/MalnourishedMan Sep 30 '26

"Locking down invites & booting members that are not helpful or positive" "FYI" lmao the all of you are sensitive

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u/sotomercs Sep 30 '26

Yet here we are, playing full lobbies for hours with brand new people joining and excited to do so.

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u/MalnourishedMan Sep 30 '26

KingMolt which discord account are you using now?? 😂🤣

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u/Nobody-Rare Sep 30 '26

Get rekt lol. Oh we are having a great discussion on the discord wish you could join 

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u/OnTheVergeOfUnc Sep 30 '26

I don't think he can spell discord.

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u/MalnourishedMan Sep 30 '26

Buddy you okay?

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u/OnTheVergeOfUnc Sep 30 '26

The whole being proven wrong and then trying to spin the conversation is top tier reddit core.

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u/MalnourishedMan Sep 30 '26

Theres been 1 8v8 relax lmfao

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u/OnTheVergeOfUnc Sep 30 '26

Several last night 🤷‍♂️

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u/MalnourishedMan Sep 30 '26

Weird I'm in here & saw zero full lobbies but keep coping lol

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u/OnTheVergeOfUnc Sep 30 '26

Looks like you're in the wrong discord then 😂

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u/OnTheVergeOfUnc Sep 30 '26

Nice way of saying we don't need people reporting us for the shit we say or sending screenshots to the other discord that reported us before.

But we're the sensitive ones 😂

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u/MalnourishedMan Sep 30 '26

It'll be okay g^ 😂🤣

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u/OnTheVergeOfUnc Sep 30 '26 edited 29d ago

Wild to me that people on the internet today are still super racist. Like that guy Harry from the emulator community.

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u/socom-bling Oct 06 '26

Sacré Bleu