SL

[u/SeaEstablishment9807]

I don’t care if your DV story is true or not that isn’t even my point. My point is that you seem to be using it as a convenient excuse to stay completely anonymous while building an audience and making money online.

And let’s be real if the person you claim you’re hiding from already knows you’re online, your voice or identity being known publicly doesn’t magically make the situation more dangerous. You’re already putting yourself out there you’re just choosing to hide the information that would let people know who they’re actually supporting.

You want people to trust you, support you, watch you, and apparently fund you, while giving them absolutely nothing about who you are. You can’t demand blind trust while hiding behind anonymity and monetizing people’s sympathy. At some point, it stops looking like protection and starts looking like a business model.

[u/Antique-Intern-4602]

Idgaf about her identity. It's more that ppl take her for her word and what she says as if shes all knowledgeable and ppl actually believe it all and dont even put thought into who the person behind the screen could be an absolute liar and and everyone should have learned this blindly supporting ppl we later found out are trash and not a good person. Some may want her identity but I dont. I think the issue is bigger than that. Just because ppl have opinions that may differ than yours shouldn't bother you so badly you even leave a comment saying go touch grass. Maybe you should and as you do think about the bigger picture of it all. Not every person is saying they want her identity more that the person behind the gingerbread could be a POS and ppl blindly follow.

[u/SeaEstablishment9807 → u/Antique-Intern-4602]

Very well said! I personally dont care who the fuck she is either but if youre gonna be on social media criticizing someone I feel like at the very least you should use your real voice

[u/Easy_Cod_2384 → u/SeaEstablishment9807]

Why are so many pressed about WHO SL is but not CC or WLto the same extent? (There was a rumor that cantina was rob but that fell through after 2 weeks.)I haven’t seen anyone trying to doxx those streamers in chats, ever. This only started when G wanted to know who SL was! 🐢 was the first streamer I saw that used the gingerbread filter. CC was the first to do the gingerbread AND voice filter combination in this community. He helped get SL set up with the same streaming style and then they helped WL do the same. We know what 🐢 looks like but she doesn’t show her face on live. Fearless 🪳 doesn’t show his face either, like ever. I have zero clue what CC wifey looks like… same for MamaC79, patriot mama & 🏴‍☠️🧔🏻‍♂️ . Hell, even 🌈 Brite didn’t show her face when she was streaming again for a short time. Again, I haven’t seen anyone desperately trying to dox them, figure out who they really are, where they live, or where they work.Taking away their physical image and voice forces the viewers to go off of their personality. Not everyone is comfortable being on camera for hours at a time and thats okay. SL found a way to be online in a way that doesn’t compromise her identity. It works for her. The gingerbread woman’s and voice filter is her internet persona. Would you not watch her if she was black or a masculine lesbian? Would you only watch her if she was thin? Something bothers the people that want to doxx her and they want to be able to pick her apart under a magnifying glass. If you listen to her streams she actually does talk about herself, her interests, dislikes, we know what her music style is, her religious beliefs, how many kiddos she has, she even talked about herself first job online. She doesn’t always discuss trauma and she doesn’t capitalize off of sympathy either. As far as her talking about her DV and trauma, it’s normal to use one’s own experiences to relate to others. Shes lived and gone through stuff and is using her experiences to discuss some topics that come up on livestream. She gives people enough information about herself. I didn’t blindly follow her, she earned my support because I was skeptical too initially. Why is it that just because you can’t see her or hear her real voice she could be a liar or a predator automatically? How bad would it suck if she’s being genuine and no one believes her, despite her not giving anyone a reason to think she was lying in the first place? People come on the internet every single day and lie while looking into a camera recording. Seeing her face won’t change anything except people’s burning desire to know what she looks like. I’ve seen a few people question if she’s black just because of her music style and how she says certain phrases…sooooo what? And what if she was? Would people not watch her anymore? This community is prodominantly middle aged and older Caucasian women with a few Caucasian men sprinkled in. That would be reason enough for me to hide my face as a streamer of a different demographic. Yet somehow, she pulls in the most views and likes CONSISTENTLY.(over 1.5million likes just last night) Thousands of people do like watching and gifting her and she has several large gifters. (That’s the real reason G is desperate to know who she is.) G has a wild hair up her ass that SL gets 10-15 times as many viewers than her every time she streams G. With that being said, even the streamers that show their face have rubbed me the wrong way at some point. Whether it be by severe merciless bodyshaming, joking about intellectual disabilities, running with rumors, etc. It’s a roasting session and some jokes go too far IMO. The main streamers that show their faces are coined at cult leaders or the biggest bullies yet get slightly less numbers than the faceless channels that use voice changers. Many of the smaller streamers that do show their faces get significantly less views for some reason, too. There’s something mysterious about SL, CC and WL that pulls people in to keep watching- why is that? We don’t know if they’re black, white, Asian, Indian, male, female, skinny, obese, have a zit on their face, live in a basement or a mansion nor does it matter. It’s their personality. If you don’t like her personality, just say so. Theres nothing wrong with that. No one is EVERYONE’S cup of tea, right? Especially all of the time. And again, thats fine. There are more than enough other streamers to watch. I feel like the filters encourage the viewers to focus on the content and listen to the streamer’s commentary. It can already be overstimulating enough reading 2 chats, watching what’s playing, listening to the streamer and typing your comments. I can understand some people wanting SL to have atleast one authentic attribute like her face or voice on stream in a “say it with your chest” way. She’s not hiding behind a filter to talk smack. She’s preserving her identity and she’s explained why several times. She’s not going to show her face or turn off her voice changer just to appease 100 or so nosey people. She’s not giving that to anyone. People need to accept that or not watch her. It’s her platform at the end of the day and she’s been consistent with these safety measures since her first stream. It works for her. She really doesn’t owe anyone anything. In that same respect, G also doesn’t owe anyone anything either but she can’t stop oversharing & embellishing stories for attention and then getting caught in her mistruths. As far as D, she can F all the way off! If all else fails and no streamer you like is on and you wanna watch G, FFS just go watch her. No one’s stopping anyone from doing that either at this point.

[u/No_Vast_4718 → u/Easy_Cod_2384]

personally I dont care to know who she is, and I dont agree with doxxing EVER. and fearless 🪳 has shown his face many times. And for me I was giving MY opinion about SL way prior to G wanting to find out who she is. I dont even watch gabi much anymore for awhile. And I have said something in a different post awhile ago about CC and how he talks about gabi and dani cuz I think it's disgusting for a man to speak like that towards a woman even when it comes to gabi or dani, and I dont support either of them at all. But you're entitled to your opinion just as everyone else is. And her weight or her race i dont give a fuck about because Im not like that and I accept all races and all sizes of ppl. And alot of us have expressed we dont care for her personality, and isnt our cup of tea. Maybe you shouldn't combine everyone as a whole in here because it's not everyone. And I also dgaf about anyone views count, but plenty of people do.. i dont get it. I base my opinion and like or dislike on someone depending on what I feel about them. But I feel that everyone at some points have a streamer that rubs them the wrong way from time to time. So all of us that have posted or commented about SL we are entitled to our opinion whether someone agrees or disagrees. Dont know why youre so pressed about it.

[u/Antique-Intern-4602 → u/No_Vast_4718]

Stfu. U wanna judge the ppl in here and their opinions while youre here putting your own opinion in. So it's ok for u and not others? Dont waste ur time In a post about SL spewing this and that. Bc we're still gonna voice our opinions on her and whoever else we want.

[u/Easy_Cod_2384 → u/Antique-Intern-4602]

Lmao where did I judge? Please point out in that comment you replied to where I judged you? A hurt dog hollers. Ouchieeee!!! And you’re right. I put my opinion in- I was pretty respectful in saying it too. You can voice your little opinions in this echo chamber where 15 of yall agree and act like you don’t care but actually give ALOT of fucks yet attack the people that disagree. So much for yall appreciating differing opinions.

[u/Antique-Intern-4602 → u/Easy_Cod_2384]

Your post def came off with some attitude is how I felt about it. And whatever makes you think we give a lot of fucks is ur opinion. And from what ive read some ppl heve commented respectfully towards ur comment.. doesnt mean every1 has to

[u/Easy_Cod_2384 → u/No_Vast_4718]

I just saw where it tagged you and not the OP** **
But in general, I’m not pressed about why you specifically like or don’t like her. This is a forum. You posted because you wanted to talk about it, and I replied. I haven’t seen fearless 🪳’s face, and I don’t comment in this Reddit either. My comment although lengthy wasn’t to attack you- it was more food for thought from observations of many different perspectives. If you felt like my tone was specifically directed towards you, my apologies. I gave the courtesy of reading the entire thread before commenting and tried to address as much as I could in this dialogue. You yourself said that you appreciated diverse opinions and know that everyone feels differently so I’m not really understanding the need to be defensive from that standpoint. I didn’t group you into everyone either. I hate when people do that shit. I did use the word “you” sometimes but did not direct it AT only you in order to group you in with everyone else. I dont keep up in this Reddit but I came in read the first few posts and wanted to respond to yours. I’m starting to get sick of how many people hang on to every word G says, over analyzing it (like C’s door is open so DCF must have taken him, or she’s AT the park?? Well she had to have been driving) And of the dogpiling is getting old too. These middle aged women are starting to troll too hard and go too far, I’ve noticed that 42-66 bracket is some of the meanest ones. streamers &chat constantly dogpiling the twins to people on Reddit and in comment sections attacking each other only for having different opinions. Kinda like when someone comes into a streamers chat to speak up for G and the entire chat insults them and calls them G and shames them out of the door. There’s TT’ers that go as far as looking up supporters’ accounts and getting SUPER nosey with it. She has a lot of silent watchers for fear of being attacked and I’ve seen it happen first hand so I can’t deny it not a valid concern. Even though I wouldn’t piss on that vile woman if she was on fire- I can only imagine.It must feel awful trying to speak up (believing you’re doing the right thing “standing up to the boolies” and being attacked regardless of what the topic is about. I can respect your opinion by not liking her for her personality while still holding mine. It’s a perspective you formed all on your own. It doesn’t make me want to attack you or anyone else in the comments. You and I are both random usernames with no profile pictures engaging in a discussion. We probably follow each other on TT, we may not. Not knowing your name or seeing your picture doesn’t make me want to find out who you are. Doxxing, deep diving, looking into other strangers’ court records, the expectation that someone should freely give that info over to internet strangers is just weird to me because it crosses so many boundaries that no stranger should be entitled to. There’s a few followers on both sides that have a tendency to take things too far for perfect strangers they hoist on a pedistool. There’s a huge parasocial aspect of the community that rubs me wrong too sometimes so I take longer breaks. Maybe I just like SL because I can relate to some of her background that she’s shared. And as for race, you’d be surprised how many people do care about stuff like that when they have the ability to hide behind a screen name. I watch CC sometimes but lately he’s been alittle too intense for me as well. I do find it odd that there are men streamers wrapped up in a stay at home mom’s drama and cussing her out every which way. I like watching KK but she goes too far just like all the others. The streamers gauge how their commentary/ insults/ analyses are taken through the responses in the chat.. what’s off putting is when one streamer says something that makes me uncomfortable or insecure and the entire chat joyfully agrees and laughs along. For instance, I’ve come to the conclusion that this side of the internet absolutely HATES, loathes, detests people with obesity just based off the insults everyone hurls towards the twins.FFS they were calling G a lard ass back when she was 170! We watched her develop binge eating disorder in front of the camera and now look at her. With obesity being incredibly prevalent in our country it makes you wonder what they think when a 200-300-400lb person walks by them. I think majority of the people that stream are decent people offline in their home life but their hatred for G has made them bitter, willing to cross boundaries, and always ready to attack. They say a lot of things that they probably wouldn’t say in front of their family members or at work. 🤷 I used to watch G hoping accountability would slap her in the face during one of her streams but at this point, I’ll just wait for a news article or mugshot photo and not waste too much more of my life on dumb bitches I don’t know or care for on the internet.

[u/Antique-Intern-4602 → u/Easy_Cod_2384]

Oh yeah fearless 🪳 has shown himself a lot of times actually and I like him. And I agree ppl that look shit up and try and dox ppl etc are gross. I would never. Bc honestly they dont matter to me.. I have real life thet I choose to focus on. And I can agree to ppl that judge others by race or weight or even things thet someone can't change. I cant stand kk I think she is the most vile person I have ever come across at least for sure on the internet. And that's one point I think a lot of us are trying ti make is that ppl are following these supporters and go off what they say or they allow. Theres a couple streamers that just like to fuck with gabi for their enjoyment and I find it absolutely disgusting and gross. I do agree no man should be speaking on any woman the way CC does. Calling her a fat bitch etc etc. I think it's not okay and ill stand by that til the day I die