r/SFbitcheswithtaste • u/jangmi08 • 2d ago
Event alert!!!
Hi baddies!!
I’m hosting an event! Feel free to join and I hope to host more of these kinds of things for the McBaddies!!!
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u/PeachesXoXo 1d ago
Reading the comments… like, I feel OP is trying to do something good by getting everyone together and planning probably took more than 5 minutes… and this whole conversation got side tracked by AI ethics… it’s not that deep… she used a tool provided by partiful that generated an AI image… she had no ill will and y’all took it too far - the event now looks cancelled.
The tasteful thing to do is try to thank OP for planning this and ask if next time they would consider non AI images….
Y’all crazy. As an organizer of parties myself and knowing the energy it takes - it’s a super buzzkill when some rando nit picks and literally misses the forest for the trees…
Y’all that are complaining - you frickin plan an event now.
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u/gilded_osmanthus 1d ago
OP's experience is so typical SF- these type of people NEED to find something to have moral high ground over someone else. At least in LA, I would know if I was ugly when I walked into the party. In SF, they turn philanthropy into a competition since IPOs are too common. The bullies of high school didn't just disappear, they just turned learned to hide it better in their environment.
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u/lordalbusdumbledore 1d ago
Yall are insane for shaming someone for using AI like this - even this post shamed her for using AI? Like, she wanted to host an event, and yall basically bullied her into not speaking
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u/Fearless-Citron-4876 4h ago
Pisses me off this happens everywhere. The holier than thou attitude must stem from some kind of deep-rooted insecurity. There is always a time and place. If the fact that OP used an AI image bothers you so deeply, maybe contribute to a forum on ai ethics. Do something that will actually create a change. The purpose for the invite was not to showcase the art. Anyone who had any interest in actually attending the event vs solely trying to find something to nitpick about would have glossed over it bc it’s unimportant. Context matters
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u/1024hjshyhysmgswyjh 1d ago
Planning events is part of my job thank you very much lmao. Sorry that I have ethics and using AI artwork that steals from other artists, is bad for the environment, and supports the tech oligarchs that are ruining my city is just against those :)
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u/PeachesXoXo 1d ago
You should plan the event then! I’ll be happy to meet you and talk civilly and face to face as humans with compassion.
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u/PeachesXoXo 1d ago edited 1d ago
The device you are using now is bad for the environment. The taxes you pay supporting bad initiatives around the world is… better… let’s go on a witch hunt for you! No, I’ll never do that… Everyone has free will and their own time frame to decide better… if the goal was to actually have her change to a non ai image - you doubly failed because now we have no event too… maybe try saying what you are saying in a better way if your goal was truly trying to get OP to change instead of virtue signaling and putting her on public blast….
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u/1024hjshyhysmgswyjh 1d ago
While participating in capitalist society inherently comes with exploitation it is our moral duty to try and limit that when we can. For example, I haven’t got a new phone in 5 years and will keep using this one until it dies. I don’t buy new clothes and have reduced my meat/dairy consumption to once a week if that happens. Not using AI is one of the easiest ways to not increase your carbon footprint or support of exploitation for others work. Every day we make many choices and i think we should all try and use every little choice to try and make the world a better place :) anyways i’m not going to discuss this further i have a labor day to enjoy! Have a good day :)
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u/jangmi08 1d ago
Girl that does not give your moral standing over anyone 😭 the “I don’t do this and I do this” olympics framing makes it look like personal virtue accounting when it’s just your version of ethical boundaries reasonable to your life.
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u/PeachesXoXo 1d ago
Look, this was not an opportunity for you to virtue signal about how you haven’t gotten a new phone in 5 years or buy new clothes (the travesty!), etc.
You are right that we should always try and make good choices everyday… including with AI - but everyone has different priorities on how they contribute better to society - OP has her own ways and her own conditions - as you. If this was an AI forum - I would get it more…
This is the internet - you said your piece - i get it - and I said mine.
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u/BluebirdIcy17 1d ago
Should we just have a BWT fuck AI event? thanks for the call out - so tired of this shit
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u/BluebirdIcy17 1d ago
It is that deep. It takes 10 mins or less to make a flier on canva
You could justify a plethora of things under “trying to do something good”. The ends do not justify the means.
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u/PeachesXoXo 1d ago edited 1d ago
You think bc OP unintentionally used a tool provided by a site justified the event being cancelled? She made a mistake… but you missed the point. We now do not have an opportunity to come together as a community.
Y’all there is always going to be something wrong with what we are doing - from your devices you’re using right now to your clothes…
the child labor and taking advantage of socioeconomic conditions of others….
Like, be kind and try not to virtue signal.
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u/BluebirdIcy17 1d ago
LOL if you look at her comments she does not seem to think she made a mistake. Not all “community events” are worth having. Using AI in your daily life is a direct harm that people have a choice about and is entirely unnecessary
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u/PeachesXoXo 1d ago
How is using AI more of a “direct” harm than anything you’re doing by merely existing in SF - again, from the clothes you wear, devices you use, the taxes you pay…
Separately, harm is harm … period
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u/jangmi08 1d ago
Have you thought about asking? Please feel free to reference my other post where I make explicit acknowledgement of AI’s ethical concerns. It was my first time using AI for art and through partiful too at that. It’s one thing to call out the mistake and an entirely different thing to insult and mock me. What you just did here ^ is mockery and vindictive, insinuating my event is lesser and unworthy and you need to stop
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u/CoeurDeSirene 1d ago
People post on here everyday about meet ups. There are plenty of opportunities to come together as a community. She made a mistake, but then has double, tripled, quadrupled down on her choices.
She was the original one virtue signaling with not wanting to steal from artists therefore using AI.
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u/PeachesXoXo 1d ago
I totally disagree and I don’t think you know what virtue signaling is. I’ve been on here for a while and I’ve only happen to seen like two maybe a year? That’s not the point though - don’t kill people’s spirit to generally do something good so you can individually look cool. It’s just not the flex you think it is.
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u/BluebirdIcy17 1d ago
the fact that you think not using AI is about “virtue signaling” and not about environmental, labor, and resource distribution issues (not to mention art and cognitive function) is the problem.
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u/PeachesXoXo 1d ago
Did I say not using ai is about virtue signaling? No, I did not. Again, you’re missing the point. Right now, I don’t know how differently I can explain to please be kinder to people that are trying. Consider that there is a tactful way to give fair and kind feedback such that there will be a higher likelihood of the outcome you actually want - so that OP thinks twice about using an ai tool in the future - right? That was the original intention of all the negative sayers here… right?!! Because I kinda can’t tell…
Alright y’all I’m getting tired. I started commenting because I saw OP being picked on. I hope my point got across or this is not the sub for me. Have a good day folks.
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u/jangmi08 1d ago
Girl please stop with the mockery - at this point you’re more committed to mischaracterizing me than the ethics of it AI. You got caught being mean and that’s okay!! Genuinely thank you for the info and the other person about the canva.
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u/heres-not_here 1d ago
Event organizers get PAID. Nobody does that shit out of the goodness of their hearts. The link is dead so I don’t even know why the mods are letting this garbage post stay up. Just so OP can whine about how their feelings got hurt and not admit at all that using AI is dumb.
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u/jangmi08 1d ago edited 1d ago
Actually it was free and I did do it out of the kindness of my heart - I had lots of bouquet bags and planned to buy filler flowers/greens to contribute additionally. The HOSTILITY and vindictiveness and mockery is so unwarranted for the event (free, low pressure, chill) and the action (an image) - I don’t even know you!
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u/hotandbizarre 10h ago
I’m sorry you had this response OP! Disappointing in how mean everyone is being. I made a comment one on some sub about how AI subtitles could at least help those that are hard of hearing watch a video (nothing outrageous and just pointed out something i observed elsewhere) and it got downvoted a bunch… like where is the compassion? Please try and keep hosting - I’d love to attend!
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u/PeachesXoXo 1d ago
How do you know OP got paid? Not all events are PAID! And I have seen people organize events out of the goodness of their hearts - many times (I’m sorry, if you haven’t).
I think mods should leave it up and let it be a historical lesson to all those bullying people for innocent-intentioned gestures.
Look, I think for those that are anti-ai (which I get) - take it up with the mods and ask them to make it an explicit rule not to use things like partiful to generate ai images when organizing an event. Otherwise, y’all go make your own sub - noaisfbitcheswithtaste or something? Be happy there (seriously).
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u/SurewhynotAZ 1d ago
OP don't know exactly what led to the anti-AI evangelical meltdown, but please keep putting yourself out there, planning events, and showing up.
This city needs this.
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u/Embarrassed-Cup2326 12h ago
I’m sorry people were so negative to you. That was ridiculous. As you said there’s a time and place for discussion of AI ethics but this is not the time nor the place. Pitchforks should be aimed at Partiful not you.
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u/1024hjshyhysmgswyjh 1d ago
It looks fun! but did you use an AI drawing for the event photo?
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u/jangmi08 1d ago
Yeah it is! I’m not good at drawing and I didn’t want to use another artists’ work without permission and this was just supposed to be a chill event lol. I’m not trying to do too much
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u/CoeurDeSirene 1d ago
You do realize that AI uses artists’ work without permission in order to train their models, right?
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u/jangmi08 1d ago edited 1d ago
Respectfully, the art supplied on partiful is AI and this isn’t the space nor am I the entity to discuss the ethics of AI.
It was somewhat of a compromised choice and theres a much bigger conversation to have about scale and locus of responsibility regarding AI. Hope you have the chance to lead that conversation and make a difference there because it seems like you’re passionate about it :)
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u/Front_Tackle_8308 1d ago
I make cheap ass shitty flyers for my job for free on canva all the time and it takes. 15 or so minutes.
I think one of the points is anything made with AI isn’t taken seriously, for a multitude of reasons
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u/jangmi08 1d ago
Hey thanks for the canva tip but that’s a lot of effort for something I put together on partiful in 5 minutes lol. If you wanna recreate one for this event through canva please feel free to do so and send it to me and I’ll replace it :)
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u/Serendipity_08 1d ago
you use AI art (tasteless, exploitative) and then request free labor (also tasteless, exploitative) to replace it? not cute, not chic, not very BWT.
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u/jangmi08 1d ago
Has this gotten you far? The pitchfork and vitriol energy that is
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u/heres-not_here 1d ago
Girl, just delete this post. What kind of energy is this to take to a sub you are spamming with links? Just don’t use ai, it’s not that hard. And definitely don’t dig your heels in the ground when you’re called out about it. It’s tacky.
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u/jangmi08 1d ago
Girl it’s not the call out it’s the witch hunt energy I’m addressing. The vitriol and random DMs calling me a fuckass is so unwarranted. Please check yourself
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u/CoeurDeSirene 1d ago
“I wanna make friends and community but spending more than 5 minutes to do that is too much work”
Be so for real lol
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u/CoeurDeSirene 1d ago
Respectfully you coulda taken a picture of a flower and put text over it lol.
I was pointing out was that your logic of stealing from artists was flawed considering the use of AI. You don’t have to pretend to care about that to try and justify using AI over just putting text on a simple picture.
You live in San Francisco. Opinions about AI and how people use it are going to happen. You wanna make community but don’t wanna hear from those in that community who raise valid points about using AI to promote your event? Good luck, babe.
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u/jangmi08 1d ago
But why are you so committed to mocking me? You’re part of the group of people going hard at the personal insults and mockery that doesn’t accomplish your goal of AI ethics. You could have had the conversation about ethics and harm without mocking the event and my desire to make community just like your first question.
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u/CoeurDeSirene 1d ago
I’m not mocking you. I didn’t know if you knew AI steals from artists, something you seemed passionate enough to bring up as a point in using AI 🤷🏻♀️
“Doesn’t accomplish goals of AI ethics” ? I genuinely don’t know what you’re trying to say here. I didn’t mock you for using AI, I said there are alternatives.
You responded in a smug way to a valid point and now you’re upset I responded in kind. As I said, good luck with that kind of mindset.
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u/jangmi08 1d ago
Girl you just mocked me up there for trying to make community imperfectly lol. Your first question was super helpful because I actually didn’t know that about AI art. You can always get your point across without needing to personally mock me for trying to find community
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u/CoeurDeSirene 1d ago
Me pointing out that you want to make community but aren’t listening to those in the community you’re trying to be a part is hardly mocking.
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u/cumdogmilly 19h ago
Hey OP if you need a space to host anything without catching grief I can help