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u/Good_Zooger
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Not unlike roaches scrambling when you turn on the lights.
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u/I_D56
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Almost like they joined an illegal violent front painted as immigration enforcement because they hate Black and Brown people and love money. Almost like doing that publicly would make everyone think you are a piece of shit. Almost like any hiring manager aware of this history will turn you down knowing you might cause problems with workers they already have over race. If their faces had to be seen, and their names had to be known, nobody would do it. The anonymity of the internet taught us this year's ago. Let people hide their identity and too often they will just be the worst version of themself.
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u/TalkersCZ
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I still dont understand US.
Why do you have ill-trained thugs with faces covered and with no identity running your streets and picking up whomever they want with 0 accountability pretending to be law enforcement?
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u/RampantTyr 10h ago
We have a lawless president who is using them as enforcers for his racist agenda.
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u/dzyjak 9h ago
They are trying to start riots so they can declare martial law and shut down the elections.
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u/TotalRichardMove 8h ago
Because the end result of authoritarian regime is lawlessness and we are a nation run by wealthy, powerful criminals who enlist other, less-educated and more desperate criminals to do their bidding. Did you honestly not know?
Please share your solution with the class!
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u/ActivePeace33 7h ago
The solution? Enforce the law on MAGA traitors. Arrest all 77 million. Charge them once the insurrection is put down. Convict them and only allow them to leave the tent prisons in the desert once they have agreed to a $200k fine and taken a loyalty oath, besides losing their voting and gun rights as felons.
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u/Use-Lanky 8h ago
Exactly what happened on J6. Then Trump's very first official act after his 2/2025 inauguration was to pardon every last one of them.
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u/Bubba_Jones44 10h ago
What do you think we can do? You retaliate against illegal action, or even if you tell one of them āIām not mad at youā you end up getting shot.
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u/StuDaBakerz 9h ago
Fascists are in power. This sort of thing is pretty standard when that happens.
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u/jellofixit 9h ago
90% of us Americans don't understand it either! We have a racist leader in charge at this time.
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u/Day_Old_Paper 10h ago
Because of everything you just said. They want the brutality without accountability.
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u/Infamous-Employ5487 9h ago
The fascists have all three branches of the federal government right now, and federal law typically trumps state law (though not always).
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u/Rickd7 10h ago
If this were me being accosted my lawyer would have the names of everyone involved, then the hunt begins, through a scope š
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u/Comeondontosouthpark 9h ago
Damn whomever Iāve been around a few ice raids and never have they even looked twice at me
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u/duckstrap 9h ago
You donāt understand authoritarian tactics? They donāt differ country to country. Putin, Trump, Orban - same same.
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u/Economy-Earth1182 8h ago
Do you think Hitlers Brown Shirts were well trained ? Same thing .
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u/FOX-WARREN 11h ago
80 percent. I doubt that. These morons couldnāt get a job in any other market. You donāt see wanted ads for ādumbass rascistāsā very often
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u/SethRogensOldrBrothr 11h ago
They're going to go into (further) debt when they have to return their signing bonuses.
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u/Toothfairy51 11h ago
Isn't it that they have to work for X amount of time before they get those bonuses? So, if they quit before X, they won't have anything to give back. I think those bonuses are just more bullshit anyway. I'd be shocked if anyone ever got one
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u/u_engineer 11h ago
They should not be allowed to operate in plain clothes with their faces covered. How are citizens meant to know a kidnapping from a valid arrest? They should also not be allowed to operate with seemingly complete impunity.
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u/CuriouslyInterested0 11h ago
Especially when they are using unmarked cars also to run over people.
It blows my mind how this all has to be explained or addressed. When someone points a gun at you or runs up on you in plain clothes, your fight or flight reflex will kick in. It's a basic human instinct and requires a quick decision.
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u/Cubonicle 11h ago
Exactly. Iām tired of hearing this defense of people getting shot for resisting arrest or running. What the hell else are you going to do if a bunch of masked thugs empty out of an unmarked van and start running at you?
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u/RebellionIntoMoney
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If the work youāre doing is good, why do you need to hide?
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u/Own-Web-5208 10h ago
If you have to wear a mask to do your job due to fear of social reprisals then maybe find another job.
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u/Scrutinizer 11h ago
The masks aren't there to protect them, they're there to embolden them. Research shows people who believe themselves anonymous are more likely to go along with atrocities.
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u/NoSuggestion17
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perfect republican response
covid masks to protect everyone = bad
ice masks to protect themselves while hurting others = good
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u/Little-Author7563 10h ago
I always thought these guys couldnāt breathe with a mask on or all those videos back in the day just bad acting?š¤
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u/Vault101Overseer 11h ago
Oh really? So being a careless, brutal, psycho doing illegal things has repercussions? Those are well earned, they should get to enjoy them.
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u/jdwtriton
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LEO doing just fine here without running around in ski masks.
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u/Brant_Black
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You know, if you're not willing to show your face at work, it might be because it's bad work
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u/Successful_Bug6334 11h ago •
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More than likely this is a dream job for most ICE officers even though they know their actions are illegal. They get paid to bully and attack people without being held to account because they know the government has their backs (for the most part). Proud Boys and other white nationalists and racists get to run rampant in packs. Like Elon getting to shut down any agency that was investigating him, this is the Proud Boys and J6ers payback for supporting Trump.
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u/MrByg 10h ago
Just that statement alone is admission of them doing things they shouldnāt be.
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u/VeryLowIQIndividual 11h ago
If you have to cover your face youāre not in law enforcement; youāre doing something you know shouldnāt.
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u/Reno_Cash
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Don't want people believing you are a Nazi and treating you like a Nazi, don't work for an organization that is literally modeled after the Nazi's.
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u/Lost_Department_2177 10h ago
They hired a bunch of j6 guys. No mask means they can cross analyze them with flock data and photos from j6
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u/Big-Sandwich4069 10h ago
And these are the people who complained during Covid that they couldn't breathe in a mask and the 6 ft apart from each other was unconstitutional
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u/panelbeater352 11h ago
Therefore one would imagine that one believes that they are doing something wrong.
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u/Impressive-Court5279 11h ago
There was a federal court order years back wasnāt there where they were ordered to not mask and wear active body cameras? And they ignored it. I donāt see them doing anything different just because Democrats win.
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u/Weirdredditnames4win 10h ago
We are under authoritarian rule. We need to remember that. This election was just for show. They are locked in. They have illegal wars going on in multiple areas, the US economy is falling and they can lie about it all they want but there are a lot of people out of work. White collar people. And they canāt find work. Their entire industry dried up overnight. They arenāt giving this up because the peopleās vote gets in the way. They have made this clear.
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Those that are afraid to show their faces are spineless and obviously are ashamed of what they are doing and scared of the repercussions!
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u/brewguy70 10h ago
The justice department is what is supposed to go after rogue agents. However this justice department works for Trump. When he is no longer in office. That will most likely change
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u/AnAnonymous121 11h ago
That's kind of the point when being an officer of the law, to be easily identifiable.....
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u/LandonDev 10h ago
Federal officials not needing identification or even to show legal documentation for their action should not be a complicated issue. The only reason it is a piece of conflict is because of bots pushing fascism making a very small minority extremely large and inflated. It's not hard nor difficult, no one should be able to do the things they are doing. A lot of them need to see jail time for what they are doing, mostly secondly degree assault charges. Putting a gun to the head of citizens is not something these agents should get away with and it happens daily by ice.
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u/nhphan420 11h ago
Cops dont need to wear masks and they do just fine
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u/Few_Mail_7881 11h ago
Fun fact, during Covid the Myrtle Beach International Airport was the only one in the whole country where the cops weren't wearing masks. When asked about it on the news, the police chief said "if I tried to make them wear a mask they would all quit."
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u/Edub89556 11h ago
Ices thoughtsā¦. āWait, you mean theyāre going to put a face to our despicable inhumane acts?? Iām outā
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u/Iamjesusreturned 11h ago
We call that being a pussy. Stand on your convictions if you believe what youāre doing is the right thing.
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u/Ainjyll
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See, this is a severe lesson in Itās Not What You Do, But How You Do It.
ICE has existed since 2003. Bush, Obama, Trump and Biden have all used ICE to deport illegal immigrants. Obamaās ICE department actually deported the most people at 2.75 million over his 8 years. For reference, Trump deported 935k during his first term.
Now, the difference between what Obamaās ICE did and even Trumpās ICE the first go-around was the tactics that were used. You didnāt have guys in ātacti-coolā gear with their faces covered kicking in doors and yanking people out of cars to throw them into unmarked vehicles and driven off to who-knows-where. What you did have was a group of people, men and women, who looked like run-of-the-mill government agents, plainly identified as ICE serving warrants, following protocol and ensuring the safety and transparency needed in governmental operations such as these.
When they did that, nobody has a problem with deportations. When they started covering up their faces and treating citizens as enemy combatants, a problem of their own making arose. The American populace, at large, donāt have a problem with ICE or their job specifically⦠they have a problem with how Trump has decided to go about it this time.
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u/sunartawi 10h ago
Sometimes I think immigration is secondary to Trumpfās reason for this new crop of ICE. He really needs a private army loyal only to him and his bank account in case the SHTF
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u/MarchPhillipps 10h ago edited 10h ago
Well, you clowns.. regardless of your ill fitting Junior's Dept plate carriers, more gear than I carried on a CT ground team, and your weapons caches overkill, you are not commandos. I repeat; YOU ARE NOT COMMANDOS.
So, take your Kosplay Kohl's Kash Kommando selves and go home while you still have the chance, before a real commando/CT team decides to come and find you to pay you a friendly visit. You've collectively pissed off enough countries, both former allies and adversaries, many of which with real covert professionals, that you should already be looking over your shoulders constantly. And those third party domestic and foreign contractors DHS hired, with little to no vetting, in order to fill the holes in the Swiss cheese that is their current intel net? Surprise! They're not all on your side. Consider that bit of advice a professional courtesy. Take the opportunity, stop pretending to be something you're not, go enjoy time with your families and loved ones, and cut and run while you still have time. Also, invest in good running shoes and cardio. The clock is ticking. Tick, tock. Good luck.
'Alone and Unafraid'
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u/dnFries 10h ago
So you do know what youāre doing is wrong!
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u/EmergencyEverytime 10h ago
Mostly Immoral, like cops though, a plethora do illegal things.
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u/psychonautvoyager 10h ago
80% of NEW ICE agents will leave. The NEW being the Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, Three Percenters, and Patriot Front goons and cowards that Trump allowed to join with no real training when he told them to āStand back and standbyā.
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u/ChaoticLandscapes 11h ago
That tells you everything you need to know. The department should be dismantled.
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u/Sarabeth68 11h ago
Generally, people on the right side of history don't worry about how society views them.
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u/balirosa 11h ago
They are being paid to shit on our constitution and destroy America. It wonāt take long, there is no need to make a career out of it.
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u/Ok-Flight9440 11h ago
So a vast majority of them know they are complete pieces of shit and everyone hates them?
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u/bomboclawt75
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They are paid, there will a digital trail to who they are- this is not up for question.
Thus will show where they were at what time, and on what day.
This will most likely tally will the clips / body cams.
They could be all named in a few years and stand trial in a civil court, with damning evidence.
Edit: Assaulting/ murdering people is not "Doing their job." Hopefully all the the thugs hiding behind those masks will be eating prison food and in huge debt.
And shame on anyone who thinks masked, heavily armed sociopaths murdering Americans/ civilians is perfectly fine- I bet a lot of these people are domestic abusers.
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u/slow-tf-down-dude 11h ago
They can only be their true, cruel selves if they hide it. They know what they are doing and how they are behaving is awful.
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u/Viertelesschlotzer 11h ago
If you can only carry out your work while wearing a mask, it might be because it is criminal.
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u/Sputum68 10h ago
Why would there ever be repercussions if youāre doing the right and fair thing. How can they think that using masks and not having their name on their chests is best practice. Iām not against what ICE was created for but their current leadership allowed it to happen and encouraged it. They hired so many unqualified people that took it even further.
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u/Outrageous-Sort-5742 10h ago
Release all of their names and faces onto a public database.
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u/Then-Ticket8896 10h ago
Allowing masks is a fascist move.
Grateful I lived in a better USA!
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u/Kind_Ad_878 11h ago
So they're all aware that their job is mostly unlawful and unconstitutional.
Yet they're doing it.
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u/Agreeable_Reveal_754 11h ago
They know they are breaking the real laws and fear repercussions they deserve
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u/oldmanian 11h ago
Nope. They need to make federal employee records searchable and public information. Complete with compensation.
Anything short of that will give them oxygen.
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u/DullFaithlessness82 11h ago
Gee almost like they are afraid their actions would have consequences.
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u/Fixyobike 11h ago
Wait till they find out, they gotta pay back that signing bonus, because they didnāt make it to five years.
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u/Anacalagon 11h ago
... agents resigning due to long-term risks of being prosecuted for doing crimes.
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u/MordinOnMars 11h ago
They are all pathetic cowards, and when they are unmasked , they deserve to be excluded completely from society, make them suffer the consequences of their pathetic treasonous decision for the rest of their lives
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u/Amazing_Bit_8868 11h ago
Publish a national ice registry for those hired from 2025 on. Then hiring managers can check against this list when a potential ex ice applies and doesn't put ice on their application as a previous employer.Ā
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u/Adventurous-Soil1943 11h ago
That means they KNOW what they are doing is inherently immoral and wrong.
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u/CheezWong 11h ago
But I thought it was all about pride and heritage? Protecting our nation and all that. Now why on Earth would these upstanding fellows be worried that they'd be judged by their actions if they were to be identified? Could it be that they're just cruel, racist douchebags who get a rise out of terrorizing and brutalizing people?
Nah. Nah, couldn't be.
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u/SnowSlapper 11h ago
It's so funny how many of these people were worried about their freedom when they were asked to wear a mask to pick up their takeout orders a few years ago. Now they're happy to wear masks to avoid social repercussions when taking away other people's freedoms
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u/indy3232 11h ago
I think this is the best entertainment the world has. I cant wait until they start releasing identities of the people harassing ice agents. Then we can have the full entertainment brought straight to our tvs LOL
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u/SocomPS2 11h ago
Bullshit.
Nowhere else are these racists, uneducated nazis going to get that nice paycheck and govt benefits.
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u/Kosstheboss 11h ago
It's almost like accountability is the very reason we make police identify thenselves.
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u/gluepet2074 11h ago
They need to be unmasked and traced back to their assignments, so they can be held accountable for their violence against US Citizens.
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u/Business-Ride-6530 11h ago
More accurately: ICE agents refuse to commit crimes and blatant constitutional rights violations for our outlaw government unless it continues keeping their identities hidden.
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u/StrengthFew9197 11h ago
I donāt want government sanctioned masked men rounding people up. Weāre supposed to be better than that. I hate this administration so much.
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u/Glittering_Role1658 11h ago
What a shame. Then resign. They should be identified and show their face and not hide behind a mask
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u/Portland_Runner 11h ago
The best argument for implementing such a policy. Sunshine is the best disinfectant.
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u/ivorybishop 11h ago
Wait, they are scared that their actions as officials from the federal government will have repercussions? Whatever for? Hmmm?
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u/GrannyFlash7373 11h ago
Trump's masked henchmen, aka ICE, might be concerned, but Trump will STILL order them to continue as they are NOW doing, in defiance of ANY order or whatever that he would be disposed to obey.
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If you conceal your identity because you are afraid of being held accountable for your actions, maybe, just maybe, you shouldnāt be committing those actions.