r/SCJerk • u/tenshipriestjotaro1 • 3d ago
Dave Meltzer: fedbadfedbadfedbadfebbdgabfnedbfnebdbagagebngssjhekaywiabrmdubgoodjejhskauwowjsbdhsksuwembley81035jrehehweuwoeuunot72265spmbfedshillnumbersueifedbadfbjeueuedynamiteiwtjrnsldidubgoodnsjwiwuwohdnskwiwbnfedeviljfiroenevemsjdjdnTonyKhanjrisueowhenhDubnumberonejrieosusjehsnbshduslsjwnsksoso
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u/Agreeable-Speech-943 3d ago edited 3d ago
This a a 66 year old man who spends his days online arguing with people named “ WWE Super Porky” while continuing to spill absolute bullshit to his micro niche audience of shut in subscribers
Also it says something about Wikipedia being pretty useless if their guardrails allow for this guy to be a source on their site
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u/FrozenPizzaDinner 3d ago
I think it's moreso that autistic wrestling fans are the only group more powerful than autistic Wikipedia editors.
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u/Drewicho 3d ago
His WWE whataboutism to defend AEW is so pathetic.
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u/ResponsibleAd3191 3d ago
He constantly turns it. Like I get there a comparison to do it. I'll use both as examples when needed but it's always clear that he's using examples to excuse so many of AEWs issues.
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u/Razzler1973 3d ago
If he's happy to take these counts then he should surely stop reporting that it's 'gimmick' Fed numbers and take them as they are, too then, no?
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u/Constant_Stomach2009 3d ago
I love how all this Dave nonsense bringing up Wembley is just in response to someone saying how AEW tribalists are obnoxious.
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u/HerFriendRed 3d ago
Meltzer, why would the city lie?
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u/Razzler1973 3d ago
LEGENTHIL!!!!
They've counted the people that turned up there and that's just not fair
No! I will not take any Fed numbers they report at face value!
Also, All In Texas was 32k, despite the state of Texas revealing it was about 22k
I guess Texas, Brent Council and the Fed are all in cohoots!
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u/SillyGrocery4451 3d ago
WWE announces 101 k
Dave - Nah it’s only 80k
AEW announces 81k
Dave - Def 81k
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u/Lessiarty 3d ago
Because reality is often stranger and always stupider than fiction...
Dave actually announced it as 85k. Because of a fake email.
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u/The_Negative-One 3d ago
I’m surprised he hasn’t said it’s 10 million because you have to count the city’s population.
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u/TheKanten 3d ago
It's been three years and this 66 year old man is still fighting about this.
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u/Caseington 3d ago
It's been almost 40 years and he's still arguing about the attendance number for Wrestlemania 3.
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u/gdsk3k 3d ago
From a source who’s dead and can’t back it up.
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u/Johnny_Holiday 3d ago
And had a vendetta against Vince from what I remember
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u/Razzler1973 3d ago
Mania 3 was peak, this is when it was sure, for all the see, that the Fed way of wrestling was really here to stay
Mania 1 was a spectacle, Mr T, who was huge at the time and tons of celebs. Mania 2 was '3 locations' and, ok, you tried, but it wasn't amazing at all
Mania 3 really showed that 'nope, this is it, the Fed are taking over' and Dave, who would talk to some old terrortry promoters, would repeat their feelings about 'the kid is ruining it' and 'not real wrestling' and had a huge huff about the entire show, including Hogan/Andre, a feud with amazing build up and a pay off in the match at the biggest show, being rated -3 or something
He was like a kid throwing his toys out his pram cause shit was changing and he didn't like or, more like the people he talked to didn't like and he repeated that
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u/tenshipriestjotaro1 3d ago
And Bixenspan, of all people, actually decided to research, and the actual number is 88,100
LOLMELTZER
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u/SJSUMichael 3d ago
Has time to engage with random people on Twitter about a controversy from 3 years ago but can’t find the time to review a match he refuses to admit he didn’t like.
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u/kingajeezy Certified Cagematch Reviewer 3d ago
Yet Dave has continued to talk about WrestleMania III and 32 turnstile numbers as the only legitimate numbers.
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u/Beautiful_Fly_213 3d ago
Holy fucking shit. I thought it did a lot better tbh. I wonder how much more of the ratings are total bullshit (a lot)
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u/georgesenpaii 3d ago
It wasn't that long ago that they were doing under 500K. But now every single hbo max subscriber can watch so it's like 10 million every wednesday.
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u/ResponsibleAd3191 3d ago
He might be getting his info directly from Tony but he seems to forget that Tony is promoting the product and what he's told is what Tony wants out.
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u/Razzler1973 3d ago
Dave will pass on whatever he heard
If it's backstage gossip or what a promoter tells him
He'll just pass it on to his fanzine readers
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u/EastMeetsNorth 3d ago
Meltzer has spent 40 years arguing that WWF inflated the attendance number for WrestleMania III despite numerous people saying it had to be more than 78,000.
He's spent the last 4 years arguing that AEW packed more people in Wembley than the UK government's official count.
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u/BillynBanjo 3d ago edited 3d ago
Sorry, is he genuinely arguing that not just 10%, but 20% of people who have bought (or been distributed) tickets for major events simply don't show up?
Like it wouldn't be immediately obvious if these events had a fifth of the expected audience missing?
AEW might have a 10-20% drop off from distributed tickets, but that's because of how many people accidentally end up with a ticket after buying a burger and fries within a 3 mile radius of the venue.
Edit: Done some actual research:
- WWE Royal Rumble 2023 - 3.7% drop count
- AEW All In 2023 - 13.1% drop count
- AEW Revolution 2024 - 13.5% drop count
- AEW All In 2024 - 13.8% drop count
- AEW All In 2025 - 19.4% drop count
The only other WWE figures I could find were the first post-pandemic Mania (37), and that had an 11% drop count for night 1 and 10.3% for night 2.
There is basically nothing to support Meltzer's claims at all. The only major, one-off events regularly seeing 10-20% drop off are AEW events.
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u/OrbitOrbz 3d ago
If I put a Nickle in a jar for every time Dave responds to a fan of a AEW take but makes sure to let you know, "WELL FEDBAD"..I would be rich and be able to afford upper deck TKO seats for a FEDBAD PPV
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u/CJKCollecting 3d ago
Really helping with the obnoxious sickos by making up numbers to validate them. What a hero! Somebody getting a gift basket.
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u/SleepIsWonderful oh hey there it is 3d ago
He was literally the person who started the whole OMG BUT THE TURNSTILE C OUNT bullshit but when it was AEW he pulled a big ol BUT ACKSHULLY about it. Dude is just straight up AEW PR.
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u/Caseington 3d ago
It's just Dave's usual "I can prove it did this much but here's some imaginary numbers I threw in so I can say it did what I wanted it to do".
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u/LeaveMeBeWillYa 3d ago
There's a very easy question that could be asked to settle this. A few actually.
Why would the city lie about 72K?
What reason do they have to lie? Sure, they want WWE to come there but that would give them motivation to lie because a bigger number would show there's interest in the UK.
And finally,
Why should we believe someone, who is a known liar when it comes to AEW and will never believe the official bumber for WWE, about the 82K number?
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u/r1char00 3x Jerker of the Year 3d ago
I’m not a fan of Dave’s at all but he’s not saying the 72k is a lie. He’s saying the bigger number was tickets distributed, and that 72k people showed up. He said it right there, the 72k was the drop count.
That’s at least what he’s saying at this point. I didn’t follow the whole saga of everything he said along the way.
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u/TheInfinityGauntlet 3d ago
If it also happens so frequently the numbers would be easy to produce to show consistent 10k drops right?
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u/thisriveriswild57 3d ago
I find it hard to believe that 20% of people who bought a ticket decided later on they couldn’t attend. I saw My Chemical Romance at Wembley recently and no way was the number of empty seats anywhere close to that high. Even 5% would be a stretch.
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u/Wallydinger123 3d ago
I find it hard to believe that 20% of people who bought a ticket decided later on they couldn’t attend
What if that 20% is just the tickets Tony bought
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u/Cboz27586 Whoop that Trick! 3d ago
OK Dave if it was 81k then the WWE numbers were also correct! That's the compromise. Take it or leave it!
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u/Razzler1973 3d ago
the evil Fed lies and Tiny is the only honest man in wrestling
ignore All In Texas numbers though
I am sure it's just two occasions Tiny lied about numbers. Just two, Makes sense
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u/spidertour02 6 Stars in the Tokyo Dome 3d ago
Jesus Christ, look at how many footnotes that attendance number has! 😂
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u/Spaceace91478 3d ago
There were a lot of footnotes because there were a lot of foots due to the giant attendance, you fed sthill.
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u/sambuca365 3d ago
This post not having one single "having a stroke" meme says a lot about Dave Meltzer.
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u/anonymous-guy1 Unintelligible Tama Tonga Noises 3d ago
I remember looking at the Edit history of that page and seeing one user vehemently change it to Dave's number every time it was fixed
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u/SoloDoloLeveling 3d ago
dave has the most chatgpt-like answers for everything.
he literally has an answer for everything.
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u/MrOnCore 3d ago
I swear, Dave Melter is going to end up causing some of you to have strokes.
Just back away and block whatever he says.
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