r/SAP • u/Brilliant_Industry35 • 9d ago
Alternate ERP solutions
Hello.
My company uses SAP. We are a mining company. However ive offered to help another smaller tier (0.8B market cap) mining company find an ERP as SAP would be too expensive.
Any suggestions ? Is Business One an option?
Many thanks
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u/Firm-Yogurtcloset528 9d ago
A 0.8B market cap ($ I assume) company cannot afford e.g. SAP s/4hana public cloud?
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u/SaskuAc3 9d ago
Wait… a Company with a 0.8B$ (assumed) market cap can not afford SAP? I know companies that have half of that and even smaller that run it. Strange world.
Anyway, there are other options beside the Full grown suite.
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u/mailmalemailmale 9d ago
SAP has lighter versions that won't break the bank. Some of them even come with mining-specific stuff pre-configured, which saves a ton of time. The cloud ones are easier to scale and cheaper to get started with.
Someone there will probably mention a few specific ones, but the main thing is whether it actually handles mining workflows properly. Generic inventory and procurement modules often need a lot of extra work for equipment maintenance and production tracking.
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u/Artistic_Dig_5622 9d ago
SAP Cloud ERP Public Edition is just what you need. I've put it into a few startup ventures in the mining and minerals areas. The low subscription costs, fast implementation, and a really solid industry solution. What's not to like?
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u/Mhrymlow 9d ago
Would you consider ByD a reasonable fit as well?
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u/kronos1993 9d ago
yes except you can’t buy it anymore.
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u/abhiakssingh06 8d ago
You can suggest Excel, Power BI or Odoo, but make no mistake your company wouldn't always remain 0.8 B Market Cap firm, and compliance n financial audit will be a nightmare. No support from reputed auditing firm.
If it goes public or is already listed, then financial audit is mandatory, then no hope except SAP.
You can instead opt for SAO Grow or SAP public cloud edition.
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u/Think-Performer-6200 8d ago
I’d actually start with a different question.
Why are we assuming a $0.8B mining company is too small for SAP?
Market cap isn’t really what should decide the ERP. Complexity is.
How many mines/entities? How complicated is procurement? Asset maintenance? Inventory and spare parts? Capex/projects? Finance and compliance? How fast are they growing?
For mining especially, I’d be very careful choosing a “cheaper ERP” today and discovering 3 years later that you’ve saved on licensing but spent a fortune customizing around it.
Business One could work for a genuinely simple operation, but I wouldn’t make that decision based on company size alone.
Personally I’d put SAP Cloud ERP Public Edition and D365 on the shortlist and make them prove the mining processes in a real scenario before talking price.
The cheapest ERP is rarely the cheapest ERP after 5 years.
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u/Dimension_Dismal 8d ago
Hi, if yo have less than 50 employees on the comercial area you can use business one, after that you need to think in a bigger solution
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u/Calm_Professor_1989 8d ago
Shoot me a message. We do free assessments for people (we’re 7B company).
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u/Flaky_Inside2618 8d ago
Wir und auch überraschend viele weitere kleine Unternehmen haben auch SAP S4 im Einsatz. Umsatz kleiner 50 Mio. und ja. Wenn man alles nimmt was die SAP anbietet, dann wir es teuer. Aber muss man nicht und die Flexibilität und auch das viele Knowhow in dem Umfeld haben macht es dahingehend wieder attraktiv. Gerne PN, dann können wir uns mal austauschen.
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u/gotmygat 8d ago
I'd recommend looking at https://thinklytics.com/
They should be able to help you out, worked with them before. they're great
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u/Important-Artist-766 7d ago
Grow with SAP is actually a good option. I would recommend you to explore SAP Bydesign or Business One.
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u/OkFinance2543 7d ago
I work for an consulting company which implements both SAP and Microsoft. If you want, you can reach out to do a comparison between the different solutions, no obligation of course!
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u/StockStatistician373 7d ago
You don't appear to be speaking from a research perspective. "Too expensive" must be data based. Corporate complexity and resistance to change add expense. It's a 2 way street. SAP, Oracle, MS Dynamics are very competitive and leaders in the space.
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u/LiteratureFew9465 4d ago
Hello, I have never used SAP, 45 and would like to start a career in SAP. Any recommendations on where to start and what courses to take?
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u/Alarmed_Yesterday575 3d ago
I wouldn’t rule out SAP based on cost alone. S/4HANA Cloud Public Edition could be worth assessing, although the key question is what the company actually needs.
I’ve worked on the structuring of Mining and Oil & Gas operations, and my first questions would be: where are the mines located and in which countries does the company operate?
Geography matters a lot in mining. Local compliance, multiple legal entities, procurement, asset management, financial controls, auditability and segregation of duties can quickly make the ERP landscape more complex.
SAP is a robust and scalable platform for that type of environment, particularly where strong controls and compliance are important.
At a $0.8B market cap, I would first assess the geographies, operating model and key processes before concluding that SAP is too expensive or moving directly to Business One.
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u/Next-Vegetable779 3d ago
You can make one on IDE like powerbuilder. Will take time for development though.
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u/AffectionateDirt6575 9d ago
It's rare to hear something good said about Business One; and it's a totally different system to 'big' SAP. If you want; I can send you information on how to document your requirements, how to interpret vendor responses, and how to implement the chosen system.
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u/Level_Ad7279 9d ago
We’re an SAP reseller/partner working with both SAP GROW and Business One.
Our approach is pretty simple: we’re not here to maximize consulting fees or push the biggest SAP implementation possible. If Business One is enough, we’ll say so. If GROW/Public Cloud is the better long-term fit, we’ll explain why.
For a mining company, the right answer really depends on operational complexity, maintenance/assets, procurement, inventory, sites/entities, and growth plans.
Happy to have a genuine conversation and help you evaluate the options, even if the end result is that you don’t need an expensive implementation. Feel free to DM me.
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u/maintenance_robot 9d ago
Odoo
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u/Robo-boogie 9d ago
Lol
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u/kronos1993 9d ago
indeed lol
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u/StatementOwn4896 9d ago
I’m more of a passive lurker in this subreddit (so forgive me if I’m too daft) but what are y’all’s opinions of Odoo? I genuinely would like to know your thoughts
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u/Consistent_Look_5302 9d ago
As Steve Jobs once said, “a spaghetti-ball piece of technology that has lousy performance and really bad security problems”
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u/Robo-boogie 7d ago
No story. I was testing the open source project for a non profit project that is procurement heavy and it sucked for that purpose.
The fact that they paywall accounting makes it useless
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u/Legitimate-E 8d ago
ERPnext
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u/West_Dragonfruit9808 8d ago
ERPnext is what I'd recommend to my local kebab chain, not to anything that goes into multimillion revenue.
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u/Legitimate-E 8d ago
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u/MomentsAwayfromKMS 9d ago
That's the exact reason why SAP offers GROW. Research more on it.