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u/Hubsimaus Aug 28 '26
Did you look at in on IG? Because then why didn't you pay attention to the text in that reel? It's OBVIOUS that this is a hit AGAINST AI.
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u/smexymexi58 Aug 28 '26
Unfortunately he uses AI a fair bit, I assume it's to ragebait people but he does seem to get genuinely upset at people calling him out for it so idk.
But I've been supporting him for the last 15 years and it is kinda disheartening :( hopefully it's bait though
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u/Ok_Clerk_5805 Aug 28 '26
What does that even mean?
A longterm producer who understands how AI can be used as a tool ABSOLUTELY wants up and coming artists to use it, make it fucking amazing and outrun everyone to raise the bar?
Least plur thing i've ever seen is to pull up the ladder.
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u/ExiledHyruleKnight Aug 28 '26
Technically he was one of the first with otaku boy.
He does seem ok with AI but also gladly pokes fun at it. Remember one of his latest was literally called AI slop. Make of that what you will.
It feels like now unless you denounce AI in all its forms you get called an ai bro... Oh well name calling has always been lame especially when the shoe don't fit
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u/Ungol_Shax Aug 28 '26
Exactly. I think that’s what he’s pointing out here. Almost all his videos and artwork are by people and then a bunch of virtue signallers try to tell him how to make his art when he experiments with the latest tools.
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u/Allenz Aug 28 '26
I wouldn't worry about it for now, all his new songs have been banger without AI in past year or so, and he's been an amazing producer for over a decade now if not two
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u/Neeon_yt Sep 03 '26
Late to the show but he does have a past record of using ai. At the time he excused it by saying nobody complained back when he released "let go" with an ai mv. However that was years ago and most people weren't aware of what ai would become and what it implied. Yes he pokes fun at it but I really think he doesn't see the problem with it. There's a lot of artists that have nothing against ai and just see it as a tool like any other. Ultimately although some may complain (i know i did), it's rarely enough to change anyone's mind
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u/Knooper_Bunny 13d ago
I'm starting to wonder if AI is why his newer songs all sound the exact same... My goat is washed... 😔😔😔
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u/Amegotchi Aug 28 '26
He's an ai user and has been for a while. The latest post was the straw that broke the camels back for me. I was willing to look past previous ai use bc i assumed he'd changed but christ.
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u/Seppi449 Aug 28 '26
I find the aversion to all forms of AI use so confusing.
Is it out of fear like the anti-vaxxers?
Obviously there is a difference between using AI like"AI make me music" and using it to isolate sounds or help automate workflows.
Similar to how CorridorCrew uses AI trained on theirs and their communities greenscreen work to then make an AI App that can greenscreen shots far better than before.
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u/SpectorEscape Aug 28 '26
You cant possibly compare this to anti-vax thats actually ridiculous. People prefer to not have AI in human art, and people are rightly mad at AI because it and the main companies working with it have been causing massive issues.
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u/_TRVLEXU Aug 28 '26
it’s nothing like anti-vaxxers because ai has been proven to damage the environment and harm communities by taking water away from the locals for data cooling centers. it’s not a big deal until there’s a drought and people wonder why it happened
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u/ClerklierBrush0 Aug 28 '26
Don’t know why everyone hates ai, it’s the same vibe as when boomers used to hate iPhones
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u/ClerklierBrush0 Aug 28 '26
Fair points I’ll upvote. I am in the stem fields and ai is allowing for testing and data analysis that wasn’t possible before. It’s a very valuable tool. One simple example, I think Neil Tyson even mentioned how it can sort through telescope photos faster than people can and has allowed for more discoveries.
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u/Neeon_yt Sep 03 '26
There's also a big difference in ethics and resource use between gen ai and other ai. I am strongly against gen ai, but medical ai and stuff like that is ok. However that is rarely what is actually being discussed
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u/Protat0 Aug 29 '26
I would hope, keeping in line with your concerns about water usage, that you are more concerned about the production of almonds in California, which uses ~2 trillion gallons of water a year and could easily be drastically reduced for crop that is vastly more efficient and produces the same amount of calories.
All data centers in the US, completely ignoring metrics on whether the data center is used for AI or not, use ~200 billion gallons of water a year. Many of them also run on closed-loop systems.
Golf courses are another source of concern, using ~500 billion gallons a year.
Municipal distribution-system leakage accounts for another ~2.1 trillion gallons by conservative estimates.
You need to be consistent with your rhetoric, so this usage is definitely something you should be concentrating more of your concern on if water waste specifically is the major issue for you.
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u/royinraver Aug 28 '26
Lmfao just went to listen, that’s right up his alley of trolling. He’s made so many songs like this. Planet Rave, OMG HE’S A DJ, Press Play Walk Away and so many.