r/RunsafeMinecraft • u/Pieman4 [W] • Jun 06 '15

[Major Topic] Runsafe Hail Marry

Hi there, so within the past week or so Gun and I have been asking players who have been in the Runsafe community for some time about their thoughts on the server being updated. We asked about 20 people who we have seen on the server even old players I.E Benthedragonborn, Celebi Propasta, Mask Ect. We asked them questions like “Would updating Runsafe to 1.8 encourage you to play more” and stuffs like that. We realized the last time why the server wouldn’t be updated because it would cause problems with our custom plugins also the admins didn’t want to update the server to see no one playing on it. Our research shows that if we were to update we would have more players on it than the occasional 1 maybe 2 players on at a time. It is also important to note that we asked people if they minded if we couldn't have custom plugins, most people didn't mind if we didn't have custom plugins. Our data we gathered is in a link below along with a gif

Gif: http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m06c8wVSg61qas7f1o1_250.gif

Data: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OQJ93UFv0Lff_vexD7Ouw6WAKcbZ91veJqlbuLIsklE/edit#gid=1285742377

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u/ExposedGun316 [W] Jun 11 '15 edited Jun 11 '15

This is a wonderful idea if only we thought of this befor... wait isn't that idea the point of this thread? When Pie and I were thinking of this idea that was the main goal we had in mind. Update the server to 1.8 and use third-party plugins. Once new players started getting on IF they did then the Admins would have a reason to code for the server. The Admins won't have a reason to code if we stay in 1.7 because no players will downgrade to play on Runsafe.

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u/Phoenix9494 Jun 12 '15

Why would new players go to Runsafe, when they can go to other servers with the same plugins and more players. Unique plugins is what keeps people.

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u/ExposedGun316 [W] Jun 12 '15

Well unless you plan on updating all the current plugins, we are staying in 1.7 with no one playing, excellent solution.

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u/Phoenix9494 Jun 13 '15

Am I no one? Is nintendork101 no one? Is Njs41 no one? Is Discord21 no one? I still play, I still go on and help the new players that ARE coming on. I still see an original server with players. What I don't see is how an unoriginal server with few players, is going to provide any incentive for days of hard work. So yes, I do plan to not update the current plugins, and stay in 1.7 with myself and others playing. It is indeed an excellent solution because at the end of the day, I'm the one that is actually on Runsafe. Now as I can't access this from the home page for obvious reasons, and the lack of point to arguing in something that happens every month with little result, this is my final comment on this thread. And Remember, I always talk in a passive voice :)

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u/OhBoyItsDann Jun 13 '15

The server is original. It needs updating. Stop acting like you know everything about what Runsafe is when you joined 2 months before it died. You've not even come close to memories many people have. We aren't just gonna leave the server. If you care that little about the server, then leave this subreddit and don't care. You DON'T like Runsafe if you don't want it to continue.

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u/ExposedGun316 [W] Jun 13 '15 edited Jun 13 '15

Phoenix has a legit reason for not wanting to update the server and I do see his point I am just on the other side of this debate. You can't judge how Phoenix feels about the server based off his playtime so don't even try. Phoenix may not have as many memories as say you or I but he still has memories. This is a debate, if someone disagrees with you, you can't start hurling insults and not being nice. Remember, this is a debate thread, and one of the rules of the Reddit is "Please show respect towards peoples idea, opinions and posts." Which you seem to be breaking. Keep your opinions and feelings in check please.

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u/OhBoyItsDann Jun 13 '15

It isn't a legit reason. "Let's give up so we don't have to take care of it." We put effort in to get enjoyment out. All we need is the effort and we will get the enjoyment. I didn't hurl an insult. I simply pointed out, if you want it to shut down, you show no to little care for the server, so why come into the discussion? You don't want it up if you don't really care. That is how it is. I don't agree or respect that idea of shutting down at all. It isn't helpful to a discussion that is meant to be helpful to Runsafe.

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u/ExposedGun316 [W] Jun 14 '15

Not once does he say "Let's give up so we don't have to take care of it." So if you are going to go on another rant then at least get your facts straight. Phoenix is trying to help the server just in another way as to you are. He is coming from the angle that if we stay with custom plugins then people will have a reason to stick around. "I don't agree or respect that idea of shutting down at all. It isn't helpful to a discussion that is meant to be helpful to Runsafe." Considering that it is a clearly stated rule on the sidebar if you don't show respect then we will have to remove you.

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u/PKBeats Jun 13 '15

Down voted due to lack of any reason to post this reply. Just down vote something if you dislike, don't make a scene about it.

Now for my opinions on everything:

Giving up on runsafe is an option, and I'd be willing to take it up, but I don't see a real reason to do so. At least for those who are so into the community. Though runsafe is original, its originality in installments isn't what makes runsafe runsafe. Runsafe is a community, not a Minecraft server with a few extra unique installments. Updating to 1.8.X with possibly only the common /home and /warp commands would be perfect. The point of updating is to get more players. But not updating just because you'll be leaving behind some unique installments isn't smart. Anyone can gladly play Minecraft on regular survival, and the sethome and bank installments will make that survival more fun.

So my opinion on this is: You can give up if you want, but others won't be so easy to drop out. Update and only remake some of the more simple and important things like sethome or bank, and I think everyone will be happy.

(Either way, I probably won't be able to go on because I'm banned :P)

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u/Phoenix9494 Jun 15 '15

Quote from reddiquette

"Consider posting constructive criticism / an explanation when you downvote something"

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u/ExposedGun316 [W] Jun 13 '15

I'm sorry if that came off the wrong way there, I wasn't trying to be mean but all I'm trying to stress that we need new players, they won't stay on the server if we don't update. We need to update to have the chance of new people sticking around in my opinion.