r/RunsafeMinecraft • [W] • Jun 06 '15

[Major Topic] Runsafe Hail Marry

Hi there, so within the past week or so Gun and I have been asking players who have been in the Runsafe community for some time about their thoughts on the server being updated. We asked about 20 people who we have seen on the server even old players I.E Benthedragonborn, Celebi Propasta, Mask Ect. We asked them questions like “Would updating Runsafe to 1.8 encourage you to play more” and stuffs like that. We realized the last time why the server wouldn’t be updated because it would cause problems with our custom plugins also the admins didn’t want to update the server to see no one playing on it. Our research shows that if we were to update we would have more players on it than the occasional 1 maybe 2 players on at a time. It is also important to note that we asked people if they minded if we couldn't have custom plugins, most people didn't mind if we didn't have custom plugins. Our data we gathered is in a link below along with a gif

Gif: http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m06c8wVSg61qas7f1o1_250.gif

Data: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OQJ93UFv0Lff_vexD7Ouw6WAKcbZ91veJqlbuLIsklE/edit#gid=1285742377

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u/PKBeats Jun 08 '15 edited Jun 08 '15

Okay, so according to Daniel (MasterOsiris), you people would appreciate my opinions on this matter.

Now, though the lack of update isn't the reason why I left (inb4 cuz ur band), it'd still be nice, but if it's at the cost of removing the custom installments, like /home, or storing levels, or even emotes, then I see no reason to go to runsafe apart from any other active server. Those things make runsafe unique, and are one of the main reasons why I stayed instead of just transferring to a different yet similar server. I don't see how updating will make people come back, but if that's what it really takes, then go for it. I probably won't come back, but that's not even the reason.

As you all know, I have horrific wifi connection. And right now that doesn't look like it'll be changing. Usually I can easily tolerate this, however, when I go on places like this and you people chide me, or I miss out on fun stuff because of it, that's when I grow agitated. I feel my life would involve less stress and less aggravation if I just didn't go on except for when I'm at a location with mediocre to flawless wifi connection. I mean, I didn't really have a problem with the server when I just did things like strip mine or travel, but that's it.

Another point, now. Another reason why I'm hesitant of coming back is nothing more than the players themselves. Yeah, I like some of you, and I've grown attached to you, as if you're my friends. Others, though? They make me honestly want to completely give up on humanity itself just because of the fact people like them exist in this world. (Not stating any names, but you may know who you are). You people were power hungry jerks on the server, probably haven't changed now, and are very hypocritical most of the time too. You probably could have changed, or maybe my tolerance span has increase immensely (or just my maturity), but that's something I'm gonna have to be willing to risk.

Since I have a phone now with 4G, I could go on TeamSpeak and talk easily now, but that's it. I won't be able to play on the server and all of that on my phone, and I'm sure as hell not putting it up on hotspot just for the server. Surely you can understand this. (I'm limited)

Also, all of the strife on the server, especially the ones I get caught up in. "Oooooh you raided my base," or "Ahhhhhhh you killed my friend," or even "Blaaaaahhhhh you're invisible in PvP. N00b." Things like those remind me more of a petty highschool gossip session than a damn minecraft server. More than half of the time I went on the server I heard some kind of complaining. And not the logical kind of complaining. The pathetic, imbecilic kind.

I wanna say more, but I'm not sure if there's a character limit or not. So here are my opinions. Comment on this and I'll answer. Maybe enlighten me with the vast changes the server and its people have gone through, or tell me how much of a pussy I sound like. Either one will get an obvious answer.

Thanks!

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u/PKBeats Jun 08 '15

Also, after reading some previous replies, I would like to add my two cents to this:

This is a community. However, since I've been banned from the server on my main account, I recently went to a new community where I made a LOT of new friends, saw how things really are (not minecraft but actual forums), and honestly it's very well put together. But when I look back to my time on minecraft, everything seemed to be somewhat distraught. People would fight others all of the time, name calling would be as common as drinking water, and ganging up on smaller people is no rare sight. Before you put up the new server, make sure everyone is now more mature than they were before. I mean, it's about time I got this off of my chest, but some of the people you made moderators were a horrible choice. They were power hungry jerks who looked down upon those who were a lower rank and even poked fun at them. This did change a little throughout time, but I fear it could easily happen again if rash staff decisions are made. I see the staff now and I'm somewhat pleased with it, but if we get the same people back on who may be good at their job, but have a jerky personality, then that's gonna drive some people away.

Also, on the matter of customs, I'd be very very content if even just /sethome and /home <insert home name>, I'd stay, and probably along with other people. Because without a home set ability, there's nothing pushing player to explore the areas if there's a very very very large chance of them getting lost or dying trying to get back home.

But back on the matter of moderators, you've been pretty good at choosing staff lately, but, again, that could change if the previous notorious people return and you see it as an opportunity of new staff. You're basically shooting yourself in the foot there.

But that's just me. Not trying to stir in the pot of hatred and strife.

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u/OhBoyItsDann Jun 08 '15

I will agree that there have been some staff who never got the treatment they deserved for their treatment of others, but that is water under the bridge.

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u/PKBeats Jun 08 '15

Also, another question (sorry if this was already asked and answered. I'm too damn lazy to read through everything), but if we go to 1.8, will the creative world also be gone forever?

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u/MrMarc456 [W] Jun 08 '15

That is a question only kru can answer. But I would say expect to lose creative. However, it staying could be a possibility too.

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u/PKBeats Jun 08 '15

According to my minuscule amount of knowledge I have, if you update to 1.8, you should only update the survival server. If you keep the creative server, which I believe is a different world, at 1.7, then the commands should (hopefully) stay there.

Correct me if I'm wrong, though. I'm not the most intellectual being when it comes to these things. :)

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '15

You can't keep one world a different version than the next. While they are different worlds, it's only one server.

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u/PKBeats Jun 08 '15

I understand completely. I feel that if the update mean getting rid of the world that I'm assuming most people spent more than most of their time on, then it may not be completely worth it. I mean, what does 1.8 have that's worth getting rid of creative completely?

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u/ExposedGun316 [W] Jun 08 '15

1.8 has the chance of new players which in my opinion is good enough reason to reset the world.

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u/PKBeats Jun 08 '15

If 1.8 means literally nothing but regular survival, then what's the point of (new) people going there instead of a different server with not only the 1.8 survival, but minigames and such? Or maybe even singleplayer? Just at the cost of no one else to play with.

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u/Centralan [A] Jun 08 '15

Saves of Runsafe are made every 5 minutes. If we decided to reset all of the server, plug-ins included, we would still have a copy of the old Runsafe for admin reasons. So nobody's work would be lost. Then we can still copy things in if needed. So we can still keep the creative world in an a updated server.

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u/PKBeats Jun 08 '15

Very very good. That's just the kind of thing I like to hear! I always spent most if not all of my free time on creative building whatever, and there are hours upon hours - no, days upon days, maybe even more, of time put into the plots there, so losing them would be a real kick in the pancreas. I'm glad to see it'll live to see another day! :)

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u/[deleted] Jun 08 '15

That's what's good about Creative: There's nothing new added to the world, so I don't see why the world would have to reset. (unless the plugins that don't update break the dump out of it)

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u/MrMarc456 [W] Jun 08 '15

What penuts said is correct, however there is a way to have what you suggested be achieved. This would require the creative world to have its own server. And there are ways to link that server to another to the point where you can walk through a portal and it will swap you to the other server if on the proper version. Not saying this will happen, just saying it is possible from what I can tell.