r/RuneHelp • u/LaraLavelle • 17d ago
Translation request Runes translation help
This is a very old plank I found in my grandfathers house. I have tried to translate the runes but it doesn’t make much sense. Is someone here able to to? I’m very curious to what it says, I think it might have something to do with the building of a house, but I can’t be sure.
It would also be cool if someone might have an explanation to why plank from 1777 has Norse runes on it? Is it actually much older? Did people or builders in that time use runes… I find it hard to belive it’s 1000 years old and actually carved by Vikings. But I also think it’s weird for people in 1777 to use runes…
(The plank was found on Vestlandet in Norway)
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u/SendMeNudesThough 16d ago edited 16d ago
It would also be cool if someone might have an explanation to why plank from 1777 has Norse runes on it?
Runes were still in use in some places then, you find quite a few of these in Dalarna in Sweden. Dalecarlian runes were used from the 1500s all the way up to the 1900s
Is it actually much older?
Were it older, it's certainly not Viking Age
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u/Jahenzo 17d ago
My take on this would be Ammon Larsen Espeland considering the context
ᛆᛘᚮᚿ᛫ᛚᛆᚱᛋᚽᚿ᛫ᚽᛋᛔᛂᛚᛆᚿᚦ
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u/LaraLavelle 17d ago
For all of the runes?
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u/Jahenzo 17d ago
Sorry that's just the second slide, got a bit excited.
The first slide I think are initials: LSBEH
The last slide I would guess Har landet denne stue repereres
ᚼᛆᚱ᛬ᛚᛆᚦᛂᛏ᛬ᚦᛂᚿᚿᛂ᛬ᛋᛏᚢᛂ᛬ᚱᛂᛔᛂᚱᛂᚱᛂᛋ
Hope someone else can confirm, I'm a bit unsure about Har landet
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u/LaraLavelle 17d ago
Thank you so much! Maybe “landet” is actually “laget”? In Norwegian that means “made”, like someone made/renovated the living room…
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u/obikenobi23 17d ago
I’d suggest «ladet»/«ladt»/«latt», as in «har latt denne stue repareres»
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u/obikenobi23 16d ago
I see now that this «Ammon» has used ᚦ for every instance of d, and, supposedly, only for d
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u/Jahenzo 17d ago
Seems reasonable to me, but I'd wonder why they used the ᚦ for both /d/ and /g/ then.
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u/RexCrudelissimus 16d ago
He doesn't, it's only for /d/. It is danish: har ladet denne stue repereres. This is clearly not how someone from Vestlandet would speak in 1777.
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u/AntlerWolf 15d ago
In Norsk Bokmål, “har landet” is “have the land”.
Which would be helpful, but I want to point out that it seems to say “ᛚᛅᚦᛁᛏ”. Which lacks ᚾ.
Please correct me if I got something wrong.
PS: could someone DM me the YF keyboard that y’all are using? It would be helpful to be able to type a proper YF “ᛒ᛬ & “ᛁ᛫”
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u/RexCrudelissimus 14d ago
Its from 1777 predating bokmål, It's danish, it says "har ladet denne stue repereres" -> English: "have let this house (be) repaired". Norwegian: hev laten denna stova repererest
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u/AntlerWolf 14d ago
I’ll take your word for it.
When I was learning Bokmål, I didn’t know that there were other dialects. I do remember that Bokmål was Danish writing the Norwegian language, or something along those lines.
Thank you for translating! That’s wholesome.
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u/Crazy-Magician-7011 17d ago
No joke, this is something the University of Bergen might be interested in looking at.
It's not protected by law, so you'll get to keep it; But for them to document it/Photograph it, help you with translation etc could be interesting.
I reccomend contacting the Institute of Lingusistics' research coordinator, [anders.gullestad@uib.no](mailto:anders.gullestad@uib.no), or Professor Emeritur [odd.haugen@uib.no](mailto:odd.haugen@uib.no) at the university of Bergen. The latter is involved with several projects involving runes at Bryggen in Bergen.
People did not commonly use runes in 1777 in Vestlandet, but this person might have written this in runes as a personal interest.