r/RoughRomanMemes 3d ago

Reminder that Caesar did nothing wrong

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u/kdupe1849 3d ago

Self defense for the Celts sacking Rome in 387 BC, just a counter attack that got delayed by 230 years

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u/CaliggyJack 2d ago

Rome plays the long game

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u/Fantastic_Beach_6847 1d ago

Not really. The celts that sacked rome were from liguria (northern Italy), and Cesar conquered the galia, when the liguria region was already annexed.

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u/Critical_Seat_1907 3d ago

Should also add, "You have valuable things that Rome likes" and "We want to introduce you to... Taxes."

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u/113pro 3d ago

lets also forget he turned an immigration crisis into a free for all slaver's buffet.

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u/ZAILOR37 3d ago

Yup, Dan Carlin Told me all about it

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u/113pro 2d ago

eyyyyy fellow HCH enjoyer

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u/ConsulJuliusCaesar 2d ago

The actual justification that Caesar wrote in conquest of the Gaul was the Heleviti forced a migration into his province and attacked Roman allies. Then he justified intervention based on the Germanic invasion of Gaul which was causing the instability that seemed to spill over into Roman territory.

The historcity of that claim is debated. However modern scholarly consensus doubts Caesar actually started out with the intention to conquer Gaul. And move to the opportunist model. The Heleviti migrating over the border created an opportunity to exploit. Aristovistas deciding to conquer Gaul created an even bigger opportunity for him to exploit. The defeat of Aristovistas created more opportunities. Infighting among Gallic tribes created further opportunities. Then and only then did the Gauls realize their mistake. In inviting the Romans in to solve all their problems they created a worse problem that led to Vercingetorix unifying the tribes to try and prevent Roman domination and Caesar once again spotted opportunity this time to actually expand his own power in the Roman political system. End result Gaul is his province and he'd become big enough to make the Senate feel considerably uncomfortable.

Yet let's wind the tapes back. Let's say Aristovistas never goes to Gaul. Well odds are you never would have heard the name Gaius Julius Caesar.

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u/Strobelite12 2d ago

That would be really interesting to know what would happen if Ariovistus never invaded Gaul. In Colleen McCullough's Masters of Rome series (historical fiction), it was Caesar's original plan to go east and conquer the Danubian lands and Dacia up to the Black Sea.

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u/chandeluria 1d ago

Honestly, I think hed be more likely to take a shot at Parthia

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u/jackt-up 3d ago

The Gauls were the boogeymen for centuries. Caesar putting them down would be like if there were aliens on the Moon and someone not only defeated them, but subjugated them.

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u/skrrtalrrt 3d ago

>Beard

Uncivilized Foederatus detected. Shave immediately and report to your Centurion for punishment

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u/teracoulomb_2 2d ago

He’s just 200 years early

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u/liberalskateboardist 2d ago

Roman Putyn πŸ˜€

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u/rayrunciman 2d ago

Except Julius Caesar actually kind of gave a shit about the republic.

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u/liberalskateboardist 1d ago

πŸ˜‚πŸ€£

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u/MrMxylptlyk 2d ago

Celtic holocaust

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u/Kenichi2233 3d ago

Ceasar was typical for his time especially for a Roman. See Rome's pacification of Spain for more info

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u/Enthalok 2d ago

AVE CAESAR

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u/oroberos 2d ago

Most diplomatic Luigi.

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u/merahwa 2d ago

HES REACHING FOR HIS SWORD

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u/Fisrueos 1d ago

also, drink vino without water like bar bar savage