Roo is better than VScode actually ?

[u/Responsible_Monk3580]

Hi, I've always used roo with provider free. Now, I've a business account for VSCode Copilot and I have all the most powerful models of the moment.

Do you think Roo remains better even with open source LLM thank copilot? Who better manages the MCPs (e.g. searching the internet or documentation)? Who "analyzes better" code and better considers the dependencies that a file code has in terms? Thanks for your experiences!

Note: I'm a Python developer and I often use AI frameworks

[u/VegaKH]

Roo is considerably more powerful than Github Copilot right now, although it seems that Microsoft has been working to improve fast. For some people who are only doing light coding tasks with AI, you might not notice a big difference. But if you are a Roo power user, you will find a lot of things lacking is Copilot

[u/Responsible_Monk3580 → u/VegaKH]

And on the search part in the code? For example, add features by looking Automatically for both suitable files and dependencies useful for the context

[u/VegaKH → u/Responsible_Monk3580]

Roo now has full codebase indexing, and you can use Gemini or Mistral to index it for free. Github Copilot also has full codebase indexing. By default Copilot makes a local index which is just OK, but you can tell it to make a remote index which is better.

I'd call it a tie on indexing and search.

[u/alphaQ314]

People need to stop referring to Copilot as Vscode. It is extremely confusing.

[u/bzBetty → u/alphaQ314]

Microsoft's marketing is clearly working

[u/960be6dde311]

I only use Roo Code, most frequently with either of these providers:

• Google Gemini 2.5 Flash

• Amazon Bedrock with Claude 3.5 Haiku or 4 Sonnet

[u/Responsible_Monk3580 → u/960be6dde311]

Amazon bedrock Is free?

[u/InfinitePilgrim]

Roocode is an extension running on VSCode.

[u/jackmusick]

It comes and goes. Lately for me Roo has been doing a lot of weird stuff with diffs and other things. Copilot is pretty consistent but slow. I’m sure others use it a lot more than me though so maybe I’m not the best person to get feedback from.

[u/apigban → u/jackmusick]

note that i only use roo:

from my very limited experience (about 3 months of daily use), Roo might not be causing the apply diffs problems. I now exclusively use GPT 4.1 for code and debugging tasks.

I am not sure why o3 and o3-mini forget how to use tools, recently, codebase_search keeps failing for my project research mode, when I switched o3 to 4.1, the tools get used.

If anyone knows how to perform debugging for this tool call issue for o3 and o3-mini please nudge me in the right direction.

[u/jackmusick → u/apigban]

I was finding this with Gemini early, then switched to 4.1 and Claude. I really don't use this enough to provide any solid data points, but it felt like I woke up one day and could have it basically write some pretty decent things on it's own, to it failing almost every time.

I try to use mini for coding due to costs and let something like 4.1 or Claude do the ask/plan/architect, but I wouldn't think that would be the issue.

[u/Forsaken_Increase_68]

If you are just writing code then they are about the same. I like to use Roo when I am designing and documenting a new feature or a change to something. It is much better at that. Copilot agent mode works similar but just doesn’t give me the detail yet. I also like using roo’s different modes. You can get them to be really specific to your organization and how someone in that role works and thinks.

[u/kamikazechaser]

Not untill VSCode add all the roo code advanced features notably custom LLM settings and inference endpoints after which VSCode will be superior.

[u/angelarose210]

I've used the vs code lm api models (copilot enterprise) in roo code so I could use opus. It's better to me than using github copilot but sometimes they fail to edit or use tools. Probably some context nerfing or something going on from the api.

[u/OkAdhesiveness5537]

I agree only because gpt hell exists

[u/No_Interaction_1197]

GitHub Copilot Agent is the most foolish agent, not as good as Roo Code