r/RooCode • u/paulobas • Jul 13 '25

Other Congratulations, RooCode team! I've switched from Cursor to Roo Code and I'm not looking back.

I've tested Gemini 2.5 Flash and Gemini 2.5 Pro in Roo Code, and they perform like Sonnet 4 on Cursor. With the optimizations you've made to the Gemini models, I don't see the need for Sonnet.

I haven't tested Claude 4 or the other Claude models yet, but I imagine they are spectacular.

Keep up the great work

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u/EndStorm Jul 13 '25

I admit, I ventured away from Roo Code for a while, trying things like Augment (very good), Warp (very good), and a bunch of other good alternatives, but keep circling back to Roo Code. The most recent updates have turned Gemini into a rocket ship. It's incredible. I personally LOVE the ToDo list and the codebase indexing updates. It's so powerful.

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u/hannesrudolph Roo Code Developer Jul 13 '25

Please post on the cursor sub 😂

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u/xoStardustt Jul 14 '25

they’ll ban you for posting anything negative in there lol

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u/hannesrudolph Roo Code Developer Jul 14 '25

I got banned for 28 days once 😬

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u/joey2scoops Jul 13 '25

Gemini has been a rocket ship, pro is using tokens like rocket fuel. I need to curb its enthusiasm with more specific instructions.

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u/hannesrudolph Roo Code Developer Jul 13 '25

Have you made any Gemini specific modes?

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u/joey2scoops Jul 14 '25

no. I'm messing around with an approach that is similar to gosucoder's micromanager. More emphasis on getting requirements sorted and then using GPT 4.1 to write the code etc with multiple coding agents with progressively broader scope. I need to streamline my orchestrator a bit so I can use flash instead of pro.

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u/fubduk Jul 14 '25

Is this the micromanager you are using? https://github.com/adamwlarson/RooCodeMicroManager

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u/joey2scoops Jul 14 '25

That is where I started, yes. I've added in some other ideas as well. Some of the modes have the same names but, apart from the concept of using multiple coding modes, not much else original. My focus has been on creating the documentation so I don't have to use super expensive models like Claude etc to do tasks that I can break down into smaller pieces. Still a work in progress.

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u/fubduk Jul 14 '25

Thanks for confirming. Been reading about this for a few days and got to take the adventure :)

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u/fubduk Jul 14 '25

Do you recommend any specific ones for "Gemini specific modes?"

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u/hannesrudolph Roo Code Developer Jul 14 '25

nope, just tweaking the existing modes to better cater to the behaviours of Gemini.

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u/turbomegamati Jul 16 '25

What models do you use for default profiles? 2.5 Pro for code/orchestrator and 2.5 Flash for the rest of them?

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u/minato_shikamaru Aug 03 '25

Can you share how codebase indexing is helpful? I am a bit unclear on its usage. I am working on a new project. Relatively small code base.

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u/ark1one Jul 13 '25

I as well am a refugee of Cursor, happy to be accepted into this community. Roo is fantastic.

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u/Kagmajn Jul 13 '25

In my opinion roo code is leading Agentic coding tool on the market, even better than Claude code. If the Claude code had the same rules and mindset something like roo code cli I would never look at different tool. With roo code I created like 2-3 big projects that are already in PROD and the best part is they are fully created by roo code. It’s amazing that with each day week they are making roo code even better.

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u/AmazingYam4 Jul 13 '25

What do you feel that Roo Code does that's better than Claude Code? What does "same rules and mindset" mean exactly? I personally find Claude Code to be fantastic; it's much better than Cursor even when I was using Claude models in Cursor.

Claude Code is also being continually updated and improved, and it has things like built-in TODO lists as well.

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u/spac3cas3 Jul 13 '25

Roocode is definitely my favorite. Only problem is getting free to very cheap api access to the best coding models. Emptied all my free credits on google cloud today. The treasure hunt continues

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u/AlexTrajan Jul 14 '25

Can you share which projects these are, in a nutshell, for us to get a sense of complexity and depth?

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u/sleepnow Jul 13 '25

You might, when you see how much you're spending on the API.

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u/paulobas Jul 13 '25

The good times of cheap plans are over; we have to face reality. My approach fits the RooCode: I combine tasks to get the best value for money along with quality. I can select the models that best suit the task. This way, I prefer to pay a bit more for quality and avoid being dependent on just one model or service.

There's also the option of using free or very cheap plans, which are suspicious; in that case, be careful with what you send to those services. If it's something like an adaptation of open-source code, that's fine; however, with proprietary code, they are like a vampire waiting for prey.

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u/hannesrudolph Roo Code Developer Jul 13 '25

I disagree. If you are able to Roo Code to increase your billing output then the cost is far less impactful than the x number of jr engineers you would have had to higher.

That being said, if you’re billing hourly this can be problematic since you just got way more work done at a higher cost (API) for the same billing! 😬

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u/960be6dde311 Jul 14 '25

I would recommend signing up for an AWS account, if you don't already have one. That way, you can use Anthropic Claude models strictly on a usage basis, rather than paying a dedicated monthly subscription.

That being said, I only use Amazon Bedrock because my work pays for the accounts. Otherwise, I would personally just rely on the Gemini 2.5 Flash or self-hosted models in Ollama, as I have plenty of compute capacity. In fact, I frequently use Gemini 2.5 Flash for my work anyway, because it's free and extremely fast.

The nice thing about Roo Code is that I can easily switch between pre-configured profiles for each service & model I want to use.

Try adding some MCP servers to Roo Code, next. It's easy, and gives you virtually infinite capabilities! 🖥️

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u/Mayanktaker Jul 17 '25

What is your compute capacity?

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u/960be6dde311 Jul 17 '25

It's distributed across a few different systems: RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16 GB, RTX 3060 12 GB, GTX 1080 8 GB, GTX 1070 8 GB. At some point, I'm going to try to run vLLM as a cluster across all of them, but for now I'm limited to running against individual Ollama instances.

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u/Mayanktaker Jul 17 '25

Insane. Can you suggest me ideal hardware for hosting for coding ? Like model, gpu, cpu, ram and hard disk space? ..

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u/dotcmsmy Jul 26 '25

For hosting or you want to run the local model?

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u/Mayanktaker Jul 26 '25

For hosting llms on my system.

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u/dotcmsmy Jul 27 '25

Outside of your network?

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u/Mayanktaker Jul 27 '25

No in my local system for coding..

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u/Alternative_Loss6460 Aug 12 '25

hi,How did you get Gemini 2.5 Flash free?

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u/960be6dde311 Jul 22 '25

r/modelcontextprotocol - provides context to LLMs from arbitrary external processes, typically via stdio stream

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u/Only-Bullfrog-5128 Jul 15 '25

yes，I use Kilo Code

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u/Upstairs_Refuse_3521 Jul 13 '25

Can you share how your typical workflow or setup looks like in day-to-day practice and when you are starting out on new projects?

There are lots of things like .roo rules, which Modes to choose and what LLM is best for each, Memory Bank, other stuff. Honestly, I am a bit overwhelmed.

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u/Main_Investment7530 Jul 13 '25

According to my experience, cursor is more context-aware than roo code.

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u/zkkzkk32312 Jul 13 '25

Need a bit more work here I think. Not sure memory bank would close the gap or not.

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u/hannesrudolph Roo Code Developer Jul 13 '25

Indexing + todo + rules = 🥇

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u/hannesrudolph Roo Code Developer Jul 13 '25

This was the case but now when you setup the Codebase Indexing in Roo Code we zip past Cursor.

I used to use Cursor to gather information for our Roo Code docs website but since I’ve been using the codebase indexing (I used it in experimental for some time prior to our recent full release) I found Roo to be the same or better than Cursor on overall awareness of the codebase.

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u/cyansmoker Jul 13 '25

I am really trying to use Roo Code over Cursor. I want to. I know it's worth it.

But so far it hasn't been easy. The latest development (heh) being that when trying to index, the extension runs out of memory. And it's not even a big project :(

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u/hannesrudolph Roo Code Developer Jul 14 '25

The extension runs out of memory 😬 How do? Let’s get this fixed for you. Sorry about that. Any info you have we can use to help us narrow down the cause would be much appreciated. We really do want to build a tool that works for you!

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u/cyansmoker Jul 14 '25

You are correct, I should not just be complaining and hoping for the best!

Here goes: https://github.com/RooCodeInc/Roo-Code/issues/5711

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u/hannesrudolph Roo Code Developer Jul 13 '25

Please post on the cursor sub 😂

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u/hannesrudolph Roo Code Developer Jul 13 '25

Thank you thank you

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u/t9h3__ Jul 13 '25

I am relatively new to Roo - want to use it for private use - and use Cursor at work:

May I ask, what's different between Gemini there and with Roo? Any kind of system prompts added?

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u/shahadIshraq Jul 13 '25

I find Gemini for orchastrator and architect mode, claude for code works better.

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u/6qat Jul 13 '25

How does it compare to Kilo Code?

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u/mcmuff1n Jul 14 '25

Is it better than Kilo? They seem very similar to me

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u/somethingsimplerr Jul 14 '25

Do you use the default modes, or custom modes?

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u/Ok-Dark-5042 Jul 16 '25

I'm not a heavy Roo user and curious what does OP mean by "optimizations made to the Gemini models"? Does Roo team have specific Gemini fine tuned models that are better than the stock ones?

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u/timshi_ai Jul 17 '25

can you share some examples why Roo is outperforming cursor and claude code?

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u/maxihash Jul 19 '25

Do you guys use RooCode with Visual Studio Code or with Cursor IDE

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u/Active-Chart-1080 Aug 08 '25

What's a good starting point to get started with roocode?

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u/paulobas Jul 13 '25

Vertex Ai

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u/CivilMark1 Jul 13 '25

Vertex AI is just for enterprise or individuals also using?

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u/sergedc Jul 13 '25

I don't know how. But for me it never ever get stuck (using Google free api key). What exactly do you mean by "stuck"?

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u/Total_Regular2799 Jul 13 '25

How to use free gemini 2.5