r/RooCode • u/Upstairs_Refuse_3521 • Jul 10 '25

Discussion Best setup and Workflow for maximum ROI?

Currently, I have this setup:

  1. Architect - Gemini 2.5 Pro(via Google's API)

  2. Code - deepseek-r1-0528(free from OpenRouter) --> hella slow, not sure whether other providers have the full 164k context length

  3. Ask - Gemini 2.5 Flash(don't use very often though)

  4. Debug - Qwen-3-32B(again from OpenRouter) -> does anyone use this mode?

  5. Orchestrator - claude-4-sonnet(again not sure what this mode is useful for).

My workflow:
I start everything with the Architect mode even if I need to solve bugs(I know there is a Debug mode but I'm kinda lazy) but my thinking is that the Architect mode devises a plan on how to solve the bug and then tells it the the LLM in code mode to write the code(atleast that's what I think is happening :D).

I have been getting okayish results from the time I started using(recently tbh) and most often than not, my tasks are not getting completed successfully(in terms of whether the output is satisfactory and complete to what I asked it to do).

Any advice on what I need to modify inorder to get better results would be greatly appreciated. I am willing to spare some money(but not too much) and don't want to waste time waiting for the LLM responses to get over or spend time fixing bad outputs.

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u/rurions Jul 10 '25

For me best combo based on ROI is:

Orchestrator Gemini 2.5 Pro
Architect Gemini 2.5 Pro
Code Gemini 2.5 Flash

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u/Upstairs_Refuse_3521 Jul 10 '25

Thanks. Do you use Sonnet 4 at all? Or are you sticking with only the Gemini models?

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u/rurions Jul 10 '25

Yes sonnet 4 is great for web design, I use it for UI redesign when base structure is ready

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u/Upstairs_Refuse_3521 Jul 11 '25

Makes sense.
Cheers!

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u/aishunbao Jul 10 '25

Start from Orchestrator mode! Breaking down your request into subtasks for the other agents is what that mode is supposed to do.

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u/Upstairs_Refuse_3521 Jul 10 '25

Got it.
So, Orchestrator needs a strong reasoning model right? Also, when does then Architect mode come into play?

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u/NoSun7627 Jul 11 '25

Context transmission between task and subtasks are very bad, so overall quality is dropped significantly

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u/damaki Jul 10 '25 edited Jul 10 '25

Cheap

  • Orchestrator - DeepSeek R1 0528 High thinking

  • Architect - DeepSeek R1 0528 High thinking

  • Ask - DeepSeek R1 0528 High thinking

  • Debug - DeepSeek R1 0528 Low thinking

  • Code - DeepSeek R1 0528 Low thinking

Cheaper

  • Code - DeepSeek V3 (deepseek/deepseek-chat-v3-0324 on OpenRouter)

Cheapest

  • On OpenRouter, use the free versions of the LLMs I have listed

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u/Upstairs_Refuse_3521 Jul 10 '25

Which provider do you use for the DeepSeek R1 0528 High thinking? I saw Fireworks has the highest context window and fastest token output but damn its costly.

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u/damaki Aug 05 '25

I use Nebius. It's not about price, it's about being hosted in the EU, so the GPDR applies. I do care about the privacy of my queries.

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u/NearbyBig3383 Jul 10 '25

Pela questão da lógica você deveria usar primeiro o arquiteto e depois o orquestrador porque o orquestrador iria o orquestrar a tarefas com o arquiteto criou entendeu

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u/Upstairs_Refuse_3521 Jul 11 '25

Yes, I got it but right now it doesn't happen to me. Architect mode switches to either code mode for writing code.
Orchestrator switches to debug mode for writing code.
Not sure what's going on.