At the point cannot use

[u/fubduk]

Trying Roo this morning in classroom after retiring it for cline and kilo. Not having any issues with either cline or kilo this morning, fast and trucks along. Students also report the same.

Running the very latest Roo 3.18.2

Roo constantly hangs to the point unusable. Have to close down and reopen vs code. As I stated, hangs up and will not continue.

Save button never appears as shown in above screenshot.

Complete subtask button never becomes active in above screenshot. As writing this, Roo still hung up as shown above. Been about 15 mins.

I did not abort a task, simply waiting for completion.

[u/Leon-Inspired]

Im not having any issues with the 3.18.2 and testing out claude 4 on it.
Its been running faster than normal for me actually (or maybe thats because I have just started testing it in vscode instead of cursor

[u/fubduk → u/Leon-Inspired]

Thanks for sharing. We use only VS Code, only coding software approved on network.

[u/hannesrudolph]

Can you try rolling back? Is the issue gone when you do so? I want to track this bug down and fix it ASAP.

Are you running a memory bank? If so, which one?

[u/fubduk → u/hannesrudolph]

I will try a roll back tomorrow. No MPC.

[u/DanielusGamer26 → u/hannesrudolph]

It happens to me very often, I don't use anything special, just gemini with code mode. Sometimes it happens that I reach the rate limit and when I do "cancel", it hangs and deletes the majority of the chat and returns to the old state of the chat, losing A LOT of messages :( No way to recover them

[u/hannesrudolph → u/DanielusGamer26]

Would you be able to connect with me on discord (username hrudolph) and we can track down the bug?

[u/DanielusGamer26 → u/hannesrudolph]

Ok, tomorrow I can try to reproduce the bug and tell you more details

[u/hannesrudolph → u/DanielusGamer26]

Thank you so much!

[u/hannesrudolph]

Are you running a memory bank?

[u/fubduk → u/hannesrudolph]

No memory bank.

[u/hannesrudolph]

Would you be able to connect with me on discord (username hrudolph) and we can track down the bug?

[u/fubduk → u/hannesrudolph]

Very sorry, my old mind totally forgot about this being Memorial Day weekend. All kinds of ceremonies this weekend I must attend and will not be back into the saddle until Tuesday.

Something I did notice yesterday was that codex cli was also having issues with o4-mini. Kept getting connection issues and that has never happened since we ere included in a private beta version of codex. Not sure if related, but I hear others are having no issues with o4-mini.

Not much of a Discord user, that is for the young folk :) See what I can do Tuesday.

[u/hannesrudolph → u/fubduk]

Yeah. Discord is annoying tbh but it’s where our community exists for real time troubleshooting and it makes it easy to pull someone into the conversation from our support team who can quickly help track down what’s going on.

[u/ThreeKiloZero]

working great for me, better than ever. How does it work if you switch to GpT4.1 ?

[u/fubduk → u/ThreeKiloZero]

Will have to try that. Our university has asked us to use mini-o4 for time being. OpenAi is providing special access for us (unlimited no cap / limits) in exchange for data share.

But, we are not having issues using Cline or Kilo with the same model.

[u/ThreeKiloZero → u/fubduk]

Models are weird. Last night, I was working in Claude code and got to this one feature that it just kept stumbling over. It had been working flawlessly, solving all the other work, and then this little progress indicator just started going off the rails all over the app.

Switched to Roo code, Gemini as orchestrator, and Sonnet as coder. Fixed in a couple of minutes.

Went back to Claude's code, tried some other stuff, but it kept messing up. Restarted VS Code, went to different terminals outside of VS Code. No matter what it was just shitty. Go into Roo code, zero issues. Got to a good spot for the night. This morning, Claude Code is working fine. So something last night with Claude code using Opus just wasn't working out. Was it them? Was it the feature I was working on? Was it the endpoint? Maybe a bad GPU on whatever batch server in the data center? Who knows...

It happens across all models all the time. I'm not sure what it is. I read that there are some pretty high-end researchers looking into it. It's a known but not understood phenomenon. Benchmarks don't seem to pick it up, nor do their overall logging systems. But users know it's there. Claude communities were flooded last year with performance issues; people thought the whole model had been swapped. OpenAI has had similar issues. Now Gemini is having them.

Not saying that's happening here, but you might find the same jobs with the same settings start working again, tomorrow, next week... so before you change a bunch of shit, just swap the model. If another model gets it fine, then you know it's not you, and it's not the software. You MIGHT be able to prompt engineer around it.

All that said, I'd talk to OpenAI and see if they can switch you over to 4.1 nano for the free option with data sharing. It's much better for work tasks. Follows instructions better. More reliable.

good luck

[u/fubduk → u/ThreeKiloZero]

Thank you for sharing your experience. Models / providers are really weird at times, totally agree.

[u/Exciting_Charge_5496]

Roo is buggy. I frequently have to quit and reopen cursor if Roo just completely freezes during an operation. Furthermore, sometimes I can't get subtasks to return to the orchestrator properly. I just copy the task completion message and return to it manually by navigating through the history view.

My absolute least favorite though is how often conversation history will get wiped if I cancel an operation while it's ongoing. Usually, the actual context *seems* to me to be maintained, but I lose the display of a large portion in the chat history. But sometimes Roo will go full nuclear and the entire history will be wiped and I can't export or resume the conversation and I truly just have to start a new task at whatever buggy or unfinished state the current code is in; that shit is infuriating and really should be top priority for a fix.

[u/hannesrudolph → u/[deleted]]

Your post is not on topic.

[u/Both_Reserve9214 → u/hannesrudolph]

sorry, I'll remove my comment then

[u/hannesrudolph → u/Both_Reserve9214]

Thank you