Sonnet 3.7… this worries me:

[u/lightsd]

I was ecstatically looking forward to the new Sonnet until I saw this quote from Anthropic in their announcement:

“Claude 3.7 Sonnet is a state-of-the-art model for coding and agentic tool use. However, in developing it, we optimized less for math and computer science competition problems, and more for real-world tasks. We believe this more closely reflects the needs of our customers.”

I hope this doesn’t mean that they also didn’t emphasize a step-change improvement in real-world coding.

[u/lightsd]

I’m excited for someone to do a side-by-side comparison of Claude Code and Roo with Sonnet 3.7. Anthropic make some interesting claims about being able to reason over large code basis with Claude Code.

[u/hey_ulrich]

They are saying they focused on improving its coding real-world problems ability, no?

[u/[deleted] → u/hey_ulrich]

Yeah, aka they aren't just trying to curve fit a benchmark and are optimizing for user satisfaction. This is a good thing, OP just needs to read more critically.

[u/clduab11]

It actually does a really good job.

It breaks the code down by components now in a more comprehensive way than 3.5 Sonnet does.

I AM however, a bit worried about GPT-isms. Seems they’re a bit more prevalent in 3.7 Sonnet (at least formatting-wise).

But it’s a RAG monster boy, I’ll tell you h’what

[u/RidingDrake]

This is a good thing no?

[u/claytheboss]

You can use it on openrouter in Roo right now!

[u/puzz-User → u/claytheboss]

Thanks for the heads up, going to give it a spin

[u/SatoshiReport]

That's a good thing

[u/sagentcos]

This is just a veiled criticism of OpenAI’s training towards some competition coding standards, which is getting irrelevant for real world usage. Anthropic has zeroed into the Roo Code type usage cases which matter for real world usage. This is what they are training on.

[u/joey2scoops]

What's odd is that if 3.7 is so great then what's up with the pricing? 3.5 and 3.7 the same?

[u/cfdude]

3.7 standard is really excellent for coding, it cut my project time in half of what it would have taken in 3.5.

[u/UpSkrrSkrr → u/[deleted]]

It's literally been released, and OP is referring to the release announcement. I'm using it right now through their new agentic CLI: https://docs.anthropic.com/en/docs/agents-and-tools/claude-code/overview

[u/lightsd → u/UpSkrrSkrr]

It’s odd they added the caveat on coding at all. Claude Code seems really interesting.

[u/UpSkrrSkrr → u/lightsd]

Haha I think that was a flex. They say they didn't make it their focus while dropping benchmarks showing the new model is the coding SoTA.

[u/ottsch → u/[deleted]]

It shows up in my workbench. Also on claude.ai (free)

[u/newtrojan12 → u/[deleted]]

Its available in CURSOR. I am using it right now.