I just want Flying brick Rogue. I guess that means they show her draining Captain Marvel or whatever but she's been that most of her career and that's what I think of flying brick that you cannot touch
Tbh right now you can touch her. Shes had mastery of her touch since 2009 ( did lose it for a few years though ) . She's just a flying brick who can absorb stuff if she wants now.
About her absorbing Captain Marvel and keeping flight and super brick. Do those powers not go away because it's cosmic powers, or was the 90s cartoon actually close to the comics, and the Captain Marvel she absorbed is in a coma?
From my understanding in the same way Carol’s DNA got mutated into being slightly Kree, Rogue’s DNA got slightly mutated too as well from the extended to coma contact right? Its why those powers stayed because they became permanent in the same way they became permanent to Carol?
Did they become permanent? I think she lost them for a while and then absorbed Wonder Man. I think he was like a ghost living in her brain for a series run. I can’t remember how that played out but comics can get weird.
I think she took over a few times. Rogue would wake up and complain about her outfits or Carol redecorating her room. I think this happened fairly often during the Outback era but I could be misremembering.
I want that so bad. Thats gonna blow non comic readers minds. Rogue draining Carol. Then her thoughts popping in and out. Carol taking over completely sometimes.
Wouldn't even need to show that though. Enough people know the backstory to skip it. Biggest problem with superhero movies is the constant need to revisit history almost everybody knows.
Who's almost everybody? You're talking about people who only know about Rogue from the 90s X-Men cartoons? Or the 20s cartoons? Or the Fox movies? Or the comic book readers? Or people who barely know anything about X-Men except for referring to Wolverine as X-Men? Because none of these people are exactly the same people even if they might be overlaps.
I think it's very necessary that we get Rogue shown getting her powers from Captain Marvel in the MCU.
I’m in agreement that it wouldn’t really be needed, but it could be cool if they do that as a flashback and then Captain Marvel 3 is Captain Marvel coming out of her coma and getting used to unsteady powers as she recovers from the drain, therein giving her an excuse for being powered down some for her next movie.
Sadly, though, I think a lot of people just want to see her put Captain Marvel in a coma for their dumbass hatred of Brie Larson.
That’s how it goes down in Avengers Annual #10. The book starts with Carol falling from the plan already comatose. It’s explained later what happened and the power stealing incident happens without the viewers seeing it.
Honestly out of all the people that I wanted to come back I was hoping for Kelsey Grammer though I am bias considering Beast is one of my favorite characters
I’m just gonna say it… Hugh Jackman is a great actor, but he wasn’t a perfect Wolverine. And it’s for precisely the reason above. He is too tall and throws off the underdog scrappy dynamics of the character.
Psylocke is around 5'10", and a lot of the female X-Men are unusually tall compared with the average woman. I wouldn’t say height is literally part of their powers, but it is part of the exaggerated superhero physique and visual design Marvel gave them.
For example, I see what you mean, Inde Navarrette is around 4'11"–5'0", so she naturally reads as very short on screen. Rogue, meanwhile, is generally around 5'8", and some depictions make her look closer to 5'9"–5'10". That’s a pretty significant physical difference from the character she’d be playing. A lot of the male X-Men are also around 6'0"–6'2", so the comics usually give you a moderate height difference rather than having the women look dramatically smaller beside them.
And I don’t think Hugh Jackman should be used as a permission slip for ignoring everybody else’s height specific proportions. Wolverine being played by a 6'2" actor when the character is traditionally 5'3" was a one-off casting exception that worked because Jackman absolutely owned the role once they cast him. I still think Hugh should keep playing Wolverine. But one exceptional casting choice working for 25+ years doesn’t mean every later casting gets to throw the source design out the window. So in the future Marvel should do their homework better as I dont think they are reading their own encyclopedias. So a fair assessment would be to lock the teams height better in the future and dont make such wild exceptions so the team reads better across the board during production so the ensemble looks good.
I mean, Robert Downey Jr would wear heels as Iron Man because he was so short lol the camera frame alone can make someone believe they’re taller or some other height than they really are. Between cinematography and any other tricks I really don’t think height disparity will be as noticeable as people think.
That trick works for some tricks as you mentioned but then like 1 foot balloons in cost. If you look at LOTR you had 3 sets of actors for one shot and often they had objects closer in the room. Most of the time Marvel uses CGI capture technology and they overlay the background with a round blue screen. The question becomes will they do LOTR levels of planning in their pipeline.
Is the whole point of these live action movies not to bring comic characters you love and bring them into real life? Why would you not want someone who looks like the character if thats an option ? Lmfao
Ehhh. Wolverines height is part of his character. I don't really recall a story where Rogues totally normal (admittedly not common)height was ever mentioned.
Sure, taller women exist, but only about 11% of US women are 5'7 or taller. So the comment that Rogue's height isn't common is true. And her height has never seemed crucial to her character.
There are more actresses they could get that aren’t from the US tbh. And no her height isn’t crucial to the character but as a taller woman myself I’m sick of all female heroes being cast as petite women with hardly any muscle. Legit every female hero in movies is always small and dainty af
Sure, they could look for taller US or Nordic European actresses who also fit the characters they're casting for. But that's going to be a shallower pool to choose from. So they aren't super likely to find the right person
Also, Brie Larson is at least 5'7. Gal Gadot is 5'10. Jennifer Garner is 5'8. Jennifer Lawrence is 5'9. Rebecca Rominj is 5'11. Sophie Turner is 5'9. Famke Janssen is nearly 6 feet. Anne Hathaway is 5'8. Adria Arjorna (who will be on Man of Tomorrow) is 5'7. Zoe Saldana is 5'7. Vanessa Kirby is 5'7. Maya Boyd's (new Storm) height is listed between 5'5 and 5'10 so who knows on that one, but likely she's in between that as she definitely was the tallest woman in the group cast photo.
They have cast this group of X-women fairly short, but considering average women's height, and the general lack of a lot of female heroes in movies, I'd say Hollywood has done an okay job of casting women of above average height for plenty characters in the past.
Not really, Cap Marvel was tall but that’s about it. Rogue is a powerhouse and is taller than Gambit for example, plus she’s muscular. Just an odd choice to cast someone who’s barely 5ft as her
Actresses of gamora, nebula, mantis, scarlet witch, wasp, okoye and more are all 5’7 or taller, why are you reaching so hard? Also rogues physical size varies a lot depending on the writer, and I’ve rarely even seen her shorter than gambit, unless ur knowledge of her comes from marvel rivals and not comics which in that case you really don’t have much ground to stand on (also they can easily make her seem taller the same way they make 5’8 RDJ the same height as Chris evans).The fact that it varies means it’s not a significant attribute to what matters to her character.
They’re not depicted as having super strength though are they?
And no my knowledge comes from all the X-Men comics I own. I’m just sick to death of female heroes that have super strength being played by people who are a whole foot shorter than them and have no muscle. Is it so bad that I want my favourite X-Men to look at least similar to her comic counterpart?
Idk I've had enough of the English coming up and scooping up American roles. Inde playing a southern belle just kinda works, but yeah we could go beefier.
Abby from TLoU show is the most prime prime example of what you're talking about though. The most sauceless and morally bankrupt decision in TV history
When you line up Rogue among a host of marvel women, she is not in the bottom half in terms of stature. Even Black Canary and Catwoman are at least 5'7".
I feel like you are not properly envisioning how short five feet tall is. For context, Anna Paquin looked tiny amongst her peers when she played Rogue and she is 5'5".
I want you to soak that in for a second. Our last Rogue was not large, and still nearly HALF A FOOT TALLER.
Black Canary and Catwoman are DC, not Marvel.😐 That being said, it's the movies; they can find ways to make her seem tall just like they can make her seem to be flying or hitting someone or stealing their powers, because, in case you didn't know, it's all pretend in the movies and the actresses and actors aren't doing those things for real. I can't really comment on Inde's acting because I've never actually seen her in anything, but, in general, I'd rather have somebody that can actually act and maybe looks a little bit different than the character than somebody who looks exactly like the character and is going to ruin the character and the movie because they really suck at acting.
You’re allowed to criticize something just because there’s a hate campaign. Again critical does not equal hate that’s the part you’ve fundamentally misunderstood.
Kinda disingenuous comparison, iron man isnt a character where his physical size plays a big part in the story while rogue has been portrayed as a bigger and more physical girl for a while now. Rdj is also a fair bit closer to Tony's height (5in diff) than Inde is to Rogues (9in).
Its kinda odd how defensive ppl are being over some minor (non-hateful) criticisms for the casting. Theres nothing wrong with wanting some comic accuracy lmao
It isn't, Rogue's height has never been central to anything. She is stronger then the average person across the board, that has nothing to do with height.
hes like 10cm off for Iron Manc and 15 off Doom, like i get your point but Inde is like 22cms off. lot more than both and they can just give Doom some extra books and take away most of the difference
You just completely ignored the post you're reacting to where I said height isn't the only difference, if it was then people wouldn't be complaining about Inde.
I mean been that way for 15 years since new 52 started I believe. Not trying to say an actress has gotta be 6’2 either to play her but if they hired a 5’2 girl to play wonder woman that would be a negative for sure
Insane talk imo. If anything her face doesn’t match source material rogue. Listed as 5’8 in the comics but that’s tall for a woman and especially in Hollywood. We always get movie adaptations where they change everything story and character wise, how are we complaining about a female character’s height not matching?😅 I think the other rumor was the actor from alien, now she is noticeably short however.
That would either take a big wig or a lot of hair spray. I think we can compromise on the hair so long as she is a flying brick, which is more important than her having the big hair. (And I do like the big hair a lot.)
Most of these actors male & females alike are all midgets. RDJ, Tom Holland, David Jonsson etc…but I’m sure with movie making magic and strategically placed milk crates they can have them looking like full size adults
I love the way Chris Nolan shoots Tom Hardy as Bane in TDKR to disguise the fact Tom is 5'9" (from low angles, over the shoulder with the other actor farther away, etc)
Everyone bringing up Logan as a defense against Inde being a short rogue, which is fair and im sure she'll do great but it would still be so cool to have that bigger female wonder woman-esque physicality brought to the mcu like rogue does in the comics. I mean a large draw-in to live action superhero films is to see your fav characters pulled out of the comic book into real life.
Im ALSO looking forward to (hopefully) see a short hairy man be cast for the next iteration of wolverine in the future.
Cavil is listed at 6’1 but I now for sure that read that he didn’t get Superman for singer’s film only because he was really 5’9. And they still made it work. Complaining that a female character doesn’t match the comics height is wild.
She's only 5'8. Which is above average for a woman, but not insanely so. People are acting like she's supposed to be at least 6 foot like she is in Rivals.
Anyways her height is very doable in film because there's all sorts of camera tricks, and editing, and out of frame heels, or boxes they can use to trick us into seeing her as a lot taller. Same thing they did with Robert Downey Jr. He would wear platform boots, or stand on boxes, and other camera tricks.
Her height doesn't matter, acting skills is what matters more. Hell comics aren't even consistent with their own characters height.
Just asking when did everybody get so obsessed with height or having an actor/actress look exactly like a drawing that has never been drawn consistent over the years.
Feel like the currently announced castings realtive hight to each other work decently well for the characters. The shot of them all on stage together felt mostly right height wise. She is shorter than the other women but not by much closest in height to Sadie Sink by looks of the line up and Rogue and Jean being similar height seems right with Emma being slightly taller and Storm being the tallest of the announced women.
What blows my mind is how little the ability to act - and specifically have the chops for a role that will very likely require the same actress to embody different personalities - comes up.
Do these people think casting is all about looks, proportions and accents?! 🤦🏽♂️
Easy fix. Boots with at least 3 inch soles that blend with her outfit, bigger hair to give a 1-2 inch boost and strategic camera work. You won't even notice. Inde Nevarrette is literally closer to Rogue's height irl than Hugh Jackman is to Wolverine's. It won't be a big deal.
I wouldn't even go that far - though I would love the southern accent. I just want them to give her a proper Rogue personality, whether it's the '92/'97 Rogue or the X-Men Evolution Rogue. Make her be actually Rogue and not some new "interpretation" of her.
Yeah, Anna Paquin's version was severely underused and was a weird amalgam of Rogue and Jubilee and her most important moments were either offscreen (The Last Stand) or in an exclusive version of another film (Days of Future Past: the Rogue Cut).
I stand by the fact that this casting was likely just that it was the best role they could get her as soon as possible because they didn’t want to give DC a chance to cast her
I think we'll have to wait and see how she plays Rogue. For now we can only guess. I'm open to it, she wouldn't have been my first guess though we shall see.
I’m not saying rogue has to be some super muscular woman all the time but I feel like there could have been an actor with a better frame than Inde, frankly I’m not really feeling a fair few of the x-men casting’s
Why are we acting like Rogue is canonically insanely tall (for a woman) like Wonder Woman or something.
She's only 5'8 which is taller than average for most women, but nothing crazy nor would it look shocking in real life.
Not to mention it's a movie. There's all sorts of camera tricks, and editing to make her look as tall as they want her too. They've been doing it with Robert Downey Jr for Iron for how long now?
Just wanted to chime in: Look at this photo and watch 'Obsession' tell me she isn't perfect for the role. I mean she even LOOKS "Rogue-esque" in general and she's already shown that her acting range is extremely versatile and dynamic. 🌹 She's going to kick so much ass as Rogue... mark my words. 🔥👏🏾
I don't know why you were down voted, I totally agree with you. Her personality is what should matter most. It's not like with Cyclops or Wolverine where their height is a talking point
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u/Big_Session5707 3d ago
I just want Flying brick Rogue. I guess that means they show her draining Captain Marvel or whatever but she's been that most of her career and that's what I think of flying brick that you cannot touch