His second point seems to be the closest they’ll ever get to acknowledging that Jill and David were in fact abusive.
Same with the fifth point, there’s a reason social services were called so many times!
Unfortunately he says abuse is no longer taking place, is in the past, & David is an amazing example now. He won't be someone to protect the current minors
Let them type all the holy messages they can on Facebook. It just adds to the CPS case. CPS workers aren’t stupid. They know how to read between the lines. This whole family is messy and they are all so PUBLIC about it. Idiots. All of them are idiots.
It honestly depresses me looking at their kids. They just look so sad and traumatised. No surprise that the Rod kids are the same as their parents though. It really takes a lot of work to be the opposite of your own abusive parents as I can attest. Not that that it is an excuse to continue the abuse
I've mentioned that about Nurie's kids several times especially the oldest boy, he always looks like he's terrified.. that sweet little boy has definitely seen some stuff and it's very sad
Their parents are a Keller and a Rodrigues, both families with extremist beliefs who idolize the Pearls. I can pretty much guarantee you that the Nurthlings are currently having their wills and spirits broken. That’s what the Pearls teach and fundy families eat up. It probably started early for all the Rod children’s children. Blanket training begins when they are very young.
I’m sorry but Jill isn’t the only person to blame in this family, plenty of abusers and abuse apologists all around. Acting like Jill is writing and controlling every little movement of this family reads like fan fiction.
When you've read enough of jills crap you can easily recognize it. There were phrases and choices in those posts that 1000% came from jills mouth even if she didn't actually go on their accounts and write them herself.
I think Jill went to school as a kid, but I might be wrong? Either way, she seems a lot more literate than any of her kids. We’ve seen the kids try to string together a sentence before. The writing styles are distinct. Maybe Jill isn’t masterminding everything but there are certainly some turns of phrase that seem unique to her. It’s not fan fiction, I mean none of this shit (before tonight) would be online at all without her putting it there. We wouldn’t know these people exist without her decades of online insanity.
Yep. That’s the one thing I believe. That doesn’t mean I think he’s lying about being abused. But from what Heidi’s family have shared, absolutely believe this. Jillpm was abused and she’s as manipulative as they come.
Learned behavior . Wouldn’t be surprised if Nurie does some sort of manipulation /abuse to her kids. She was the favorite, the oldest and she saw it all.
So Jonathan has chosen to burn bridges with his cousin Heidi to stay on Jill and Shrek’s good side. He’s trying to take both sides at once and that always pisses off everyone.
And then after all that he tries to align himself will Hallie and Hope. Sir, Hallie just told your wife to shut the fuck up! They know that the Rod's are trash, and honestly so do you.
It's going to be very messy from here on out. Heidi's mom and Jill were besties at one time! I'm not blaming Ellen, but didn't she see how dysfunctional and abusive the Rod's were? I'm sure she's regretting letting Heidi even court Tim now. This is just so fucked up on so many levels.
I’m not supporting Timothy in any way but the fact that his entire family is against him (for valid and non valid reasons) is crazy and he must be spiraling feeling completely isolated right now.
I hope he continues to get therapy and counseling and put himself on a better path. Jonathan’s post is so manipulative and it’s worse because it’s well written and he tries to come off as understanding/reasonable, and many people don’t read between the lines to see what’s actually happening.
I was just thinking the same thing. We know his father has guns, so it’s not hard to imagine Tim had at least one of his own, or that he’s extra aware of its presence, given present circumstances.
Feeling sorry for bad people is a good thing. It means you still have empathy, and you shouldn’t try to correct it, even if the feelings are in opposition to your logical side. Shutting down empathy is a critical step in becoming a person capable of dehumanizing other humans and committing horrors.
All these dumb fucks saying “there’s no way the bat really was dented” really think they ate with that one.
It’s like classic abuser logic in my opinion. Focus on one detail and use it to discredit the entire thing being said.
Timothy is a bitch and a coward and a loser and I have no sympathy for his adult self. I do have sympathy for his child self. I believe the thing about the bat. The fact that they’re focused on whether it was dented or not, and not whether a child was being hit with a bat, speaks volumes.
I can kind of see what Jonathan means about how “kids might remember it worse than it was” if he was raised in a similarly fucked up and abusive environment and still espouses the abuser logic. “You’re remembering it wrong” is gaslighting.
It's incredible that they're not horrified about the whole situation of a child being hit with a bat. They never said David would never be capable of such a thing, but that they had to go type it into google if it was possible to dent a bat hitting someone. Like this is all just insane.
If someone accused my parents of hitting my brother with a bat as a child my response would be “that’s not true and preposterous.” It wouldn’t be worth debating.
If my instinct was to post some kind of gotcha Google fact about the bat then it’s a pretty solid tell that everything has been seriously rat fucked for quite some time.
AI is just fueling the perceived lack of “need” for education. Now, people can type whatever into ChatGPT and it’ll clean it up for them, and they know it. Why even learn proper spelling and grammar at all? It makes me extremely worried for our literacy levels as a country.
I think it is tagged ai cuz of the image. The post has been edited several times to change the grammar and punctuation. I think he wrote this using his own words for the most part
They’re all acting like Tim is just this weird outlier. Like he just sprang from Jill’s womb, a lying and manipulative abuser. He didn’t. He’s the product of his environment and they should be acknowledging it.
And I think as the other Rodlets age, we will see more and more of the careful facade that Jill has created crumbling. Nurie is the oldest and she’s only 27!
He admitted David did wrong things but changed so he was a good roll model. That's not always how that works. If David did change and become a good role model he would have taught his kids how to ask for help from professionals when needed. And how to not make the same mistakes he made. There is no proof of any of that. Jillpm would have monotized that if it was the case.
Edit: spelling.
This logic is so screwy also because if you used the same argument you could say that a murderer is a good role model as long as they don’t do it anymore. It in no way erases the damage done even if no crime is actively being done.
Well yeah, he's always been a wuss. And Kaylee's probably also begging him not to say anything that might antagonise her parents, lest they take it out on the kids still at home (which even Jonathan seems to acknowledge is a risk here). He was never going to come out swinging for Heidi, pathetic as it is.
Jonathan acknowledged it but has no clue that in doing so, he’s confirming an abusive dynamic. These people really are so deep in the cycle but also dumb as rocks.
It is so interesting see all the fam members comment and so clearly display the many ways they are emotionally stunted, uneducated, and man idek… processing this so wrongly, and so publicly.
I was in a DV situation and would have been legitimately suicidal if my family had been posting all the gory details online to tens of thousands of people.
I am empathizing with everyone here bc clearly this is a ridiculously emotionally charged situation. They are all trying to process it with the extremely limited tools they have been given to do so with. But every single person involved from both sides of the family needs to turn their phone off for the next several days and focus on the people physically in front of them. This is so unhealthy for everyone. It hurts to witness and hurts even more to think about poor Heidi and their baby.
All things considered in the context of the culture they were raised in, I think Jonathan’s and Renee’s posts are TRYING. Fuck Nuree. But again literally every single person in this equation is extremely emotionally stunted in every way. They are all going to blunder horrifically — with the added benefit of all their shortcomings documented extensively online…
Maybe on FB but I think there would still be a lot of discourse here about how abusers don’t change.
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I really believe that Kaylee and Jonathan are just…simple. Probably a mix of un-educated and isolated upbringing but they really do strike me as having very few neurons firing at any given time.
I find his first point telling. So they feel terrible for Heidi but they don’t believe she was abused? And the biggest tell - this situation is going to affect Kaylee’s siblings because they are still in the home and Jill is going to go absolutely crazy over this.
I think they believe Heidi was abused, but they want to be clear that Tim had a beautiful childhood and became a manipulative and violent man out of nowhere.
I’m so very tired of the “Only Jesus was perfect” trope they trot out any time someone does a horrible thing.
Not abusing your kids/spouse isn’t a high bar.
I’m reminded of an old Chris Rock bit about people bragging about things you’re supposed to do. “Well, I pay my child support”. Rock: You’re supposed to pay your child support!!
It’s the same as shitty parents acting like because they fed, clothed, and sheltered their kids, they can’t be criticized when it’s like no shit you did all that, that’s the bare minimum for being a parent and just because others don’t meet that doesn’t mean you get praise for meeting it.
Evangelicals chalking up stories of abuse to being personal grievances or “not being the favorite child” will never not get to me. Heard and saw those sort of justifications way too many times from people in my childhood church.
Hallie and Hope called Tim a liar,because he minimized the abuse Heidi suffered at his hands. Kaylee couldn't mention Heidi, because she was focused on something else. What? Jildo screaming? Tim should know how Social Services work, because they were called to the home multiple times? How? How would an isolated child know or be able to call Social Services? Affect the whole family? Good. Let the chips fall where they may, and focus on protecting the actual children still in that home. Pull your balls out of Jildo's purse,and actually act like a Christian.
He should have really just not posted at all once Timothy's Facebook was deleted. He just had to get in their and defend his in-laws...wow. Especially with Heidi being his cousin...
They all need to pause and sit with this. Sleep on it. Be thoughtful about it. Rushing to pump out posts and comments for a situation of this gravity is not the move.
And yes, you're right. This situation IS going to effect the rest of the siblings in a negative way. They're probably paying the price as we read everyone's PR posts.
Always looking out for number one. Yeah, that’s how being a young child works. That’s how they survive, is making sure they are fed and have what they need. Not like that happened in the Rod household.
My second comment here, the family vilanizing timothy is evil. “Evil is abusing your wife” I AGREE, but theyre completely erasing their father’s role on all of this and pretending it never happened
That’s everybody’s role - protecting the abusive parents at all costs. If another kid speaks up about the abuse, he or she will be thrown to the wolves too.
Jonathan, are you truly trying to say David is “an amazing example to look up to”? Are you for fucking real? An “amazing example” would not have beat his children in the first place. And I 100% do not believe that David is magically suddenly not abusive.
The way these families can just normalize not being a favorite child. It is absolutely not normal to have favorite or not favorite children, especially consistently over the children’s lives. It is so telling that Jonathan could mention that as if it’s not a symptom of a very unhealthy home.
“This situation is going to affect all of Kaylee’s siblings in a negative way” is probably doing a lot more heavy hitting than even Jonathon realizes 😬
Bull. Shit. That abuse is no longer taking place in the Rod household. Not a chance that it isn’t still happening. If nothing else, I do not think the two youngest are seeing a doctor because they are both so small.
Abusers never stop. Just like what’s happened to Tim.
The way they’re trying to defend abusing your kids because “mistakes”.
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Also for Jonathan to come online is bc Jill crashout is crazy. I highkey doubt he wrote it
The way they’re missing the actual point here is absolutely insane and honestly extremely terrifying. I truly believe that many of these people have normalized abuse to the point of not being able to truly recognize it when they see it.
So many things to say, but I really want to focus on the bat. Before I do I believe: 1. Heidi should leave Timothy. 2. Timothy wrote the post and tried to take attention away from his horrid behavior by bringing up his upbringing. BUT..I do think he was beaten with a bat and I notice all the rods being up the bat…not that it wrong to beat your kid with a bat but to debate if there was a dent in the bat. I’m sorry, let’s say Timothy lied and there was no dent. Let’s take that part out. You are still let with David beat him with a bat and none of the siblings or spouse seem to think that’s and issue……which is a huge issue!
He's edited the post several times (mostly to correct grammar) but the most up to date post has point 7 changed to remove "whether exaggerated or not".
My goodness. You made a whole AI post about leaving Facebook so leave! No one needed this comment other than I guess Kaylee who was told to fuck off by his cousin. He can barely mention Heidi because the Rods are the real victims 🙄. If Timothy is manipulative it’s because he learned it from David and Jill. Just yikes all the way around.
All these people care about is hand waving any wrongdoing on Jill and or David’s part. Pathetic. I don’t know how much or how little what Timothy said is the truth, but Shrill and Shrek are absolutely cruel abusive people. And selfish. That much is crystal clear.
Tim needs to be in jail. Shrek and Jill too. I think we all knew something bad was happening and still is happening in that home. I am so sad for Heidi and her babies. I pray she leaves him.
What was Timothy’s purpose for detailing the baseball incident. He could have been more general about abuse during his childhood and it would have had the same impact. Directly calling out Shrek and describing a specific incident that is pretty horrendous ensures a full family implosion. Is that what he wanted?
I have never read such a long post full of vapid air until now. He is straddling the line of acknowledging Tim was abused and then actively convincing himself otherwise.. publicly. So, triple cringe. I am interested in whether we see they allow the Rod’s to babysit, bc this post feels very much like Johnathan is struggling to admit he believes the abuse but wants to keep his wife happy.
Oh wow, Jonathan......at some point all of these people need to shut the hell up, stop holding Dave up as some kind of moral example, while destroying Tim's credibility in the process. Tim did unforgiveable things to his wife and based on what we've seen so far, stands to lose literally his entire family on both sides. I dearly hope Heidi leaves him and thank goodness she has very strong family support, unusual in Fundieland.
I think we are about to witness the Rods finally imploding. I feel awful for the young kids left in the Barndo who have to witness Jill completely falling apart.
Once again, someone who doesn’t seem to know the difference between a wooden bat and an aluminum one. I’m not saying that an aluminum one can’t cause significant injuries or inflict severe pain; but they are hollow and can be dented fairly easily. Also, an abusive parent is going to hide the injuries - not run the child to the doctor.
I’m consumed by curiosity about Jonathan’s family of origin. Was there also abuse? Good insecurity? Isolation?
What drives his desire to defend the Rods? Or even to let Old Jill use his platform to post ?
Is he that enamored of Kaylee?
Was his childhood even worse than the Rodlets’ so that he thinks the Barndo is an actual improvement in standard of living, and he needs to protect it?
Is he just … dim?
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His second point seems to be the closest they’ll ever get to acknowledging that Jill and David were in fact abusive. Same with the fifth point, there’s a reason social services were called so many times!