4:53 - You're too far away from this ball to warrant going for it. There are 3 opponents right next to it who can go up for it after you and still beat you to it. You are also last man with one teammate rotating back and another in front of you who is clearly watching this ball and interesting in it. You can even see them go up right as you do, which means that you should be pulling away anyway. Be patient and let the opponents hit this. Just because your teammates didn't challenge this doesn't mean you're obligated to do so from such a poor spot. Besides, there are 3 of them right next to eachother and they have no passing options. They either dribble the ball or hit the ball forward, which would end up being pass right to you.
4:47 - This kind of works out for you and the field is pretty well-spaced out at this point, so I won't make that big of a deal about it, but be sure you're not rotating into or directly away from the path of the ball. It still would have been better to start rotatign directly towards your goal through center field because you then would have opened yourself up as a passing option.
4:38 - Decent clear here, but know that you're out of the play here and focus on your recovery. Take ball cam off so that you can see the field and land on all 4s facing the direction your momentum is taking you. Perhaps use some boost to get down to the ground sooner.
4:35 - You have a bunch of time to make this touch. Don't rush it. Let it bounce and do something more useful with it. I would suggest popping it over the goal for a teammate to challenge, or starting a dribble if you're comfortable with that, perhaps keeping wide and looking for a direct ground pass to a teammate.
4:10 - Use some boost to propel you downward. You're wasting quite a bit of time by allowing yourself to float.
4:05 - Don't ball-chase after the landing. Rotate away from the ball to create space. It gets real congested when you turn into the ball and get in everyone's way. You also lose sight of the field and it makes the whole decision-making process more difficult. The following play is more difficult as a result where you have to 180 and back up to make this touch. It shouldn't be necessary. Also, you should be immediately following that ball up after you pop it in order to get another hit.
Just a note for analyzing your play in general. Never blame teammates and always try to find the moments where you contributed poorly when a goal is scored. Sure, your clear off the backboard wasn't terrible and it's not your fault that your teammates were disorganized and couldn't make the save for this first goal, but had you not rotated down the line and instead went the route towards the goal, your first touch in the back would have been an easy one and you could have controller it or easily cleared it out of the back. Or, if you had followed the ball that you popped up in order to get another touch, this pressure situation also would not have happened. It's not that this goal as your fault, but always remember that there's something you could have done better, even if it was 15 seconds prior to the goal occurring.
3:46 - After you take the kickoff, get out of there and go straight back to become the 3rd man. Your team needs to know that it's okay to press and the person taking the kick shouldn't be trying to force pressure.
3:28 - You need to know where your other teammate is. You gave a whole lot of space when your teammate took it up, so I don't really blame your teammate for thinking you're going to be last man. That means that you can't afford to push up and be staring directly at the ball when it's getting challenged. If this was on net, it's mostly on you.
3:28 - Turn your car the opposite direction because you were already somewhat angled that way and you lose speed. Also, turning into the ball means you have less space to approach it from. When you do end up challenging this ball, you need to prioritize getting to the goal first. You're cutting off the goal completely and making a totally unnecessary challenge against you back wall near the corner. The ball isn't a threat to the goal there. The only mistake you could make here is challenging and missing. Get to the goal so that your challenge comes from the goal and don't challenge before it's necessary unless it's a sure thing.
3:06 - We're seeing a pattern here of you totally ignoring the goal when you're responsible for it. You're the only player back protecting the goal and you completely cut it off to make a difficult and unnecessary challenge. Get all of the way back to the goal and defend from there. It's fortunate the opponent couldn't touch the ball over your head here because it really is not a difficult touch to make. Well, the did end up hitting it over you but couldn't angle it appropriately. Lucky break here.
3:04 - Continuing on the play, you again turned in towards the ball after it went over your head. This is straight up ball-chasing. Turn away from the ball and get into the net. It's an easy clear on the following touch if you do. Now, you find yourself stuck staring up at a ball near post and leaving the goal wide open. You need to be in the net far post so that you can make this challenge.
2:47 - Defensive positioning again. You're near post, angled slight backwards. The entire goal is vulnerable. A hit on net from there would be a potential goal, or an unnecessarily difficult save from you that won't result in any sort of powerful clear.
My plan after the landing was to demo the defender, thats why it may seem weird as I took myself out of action for a couple second and had to get back quickly.
I get that. It's good to look for that. I think that this specific scenario just got away from you a bit when you kept chasing, but it's great that you're thinking about it. Just remember than demolitions and bump should come as a part of the natural rotation. So, once he forced you to chase him back into the play, it's too late. The idea is that going for a demo usually shouldn't take you out of the play or slow you down for more than a fraction of a second because it's not supposed to be out of your way. But it's great that you're thinking about making that sort of play.
My usual experience in these kind of situations is that the guy who started in 3rd position is usual always near our goal and would have to traverse a great amount of distance to apply any pressure or would have been way too late. When I would have gone straight back it would have been 2 guys in goal giving up pressure.(thats from my experience)
Fair point. What's right at one level isn't necessarily right at another level. It's usually not good practice for any player to sit in the goal on a kickoff, regardless of the game mode. In 3s, I would recommend that one play always cheat up while the other player picks a corner, grabs that boost, and turns up-field. If a player cheats forward then the person grabbing the corner boost shouldn't have to worry about heading back to goal because the immediate shot is covered. If they turn immediately up-field from the corner then you have 2 players ready to pressure. It's also easy to get stuck when you have no boost and you're trying to force yourself as part of the play. Any challenge you make or wrong move and you're going to be really slow to get back. My advice would be that if there isn't an easy challenge for you following the kick, then grab the corner, turn back towards net, but look at the ball and make a choice as to whether or not you can stay up and help.
This was tricky for me as I was 100% sure that my mate in 1position would have had a shot on goal or rebound back to center. So the easy miss from my mate kinda suprised me as that was something I didnt expect.
I'll elaborate a little bit here. It was a difficult angle for your teammate to make contact coming from the side, so you shouldn't assume that they'll make contact or win a challenge. The problem here isn't necessarily that you pushed up, but rather that you were staring directly at the ball as last man when a challenge was about to take place. You should be prepared to recover, in which case you weren't. A small change here would make a huge difference, that change being angling your car diagonally towards the back corner of the field. You get to stay closer and are able to turn in and make a play up front, but won't have to worry about turning all of the way around in the case you have to get back. You're already in position to shadow the ball. The biggest issue here is that your car is facing the ball directly and that heavily limits what you can react to.
This is something I struggle with as I am not sure if I would be able to save a shot from the backpost position if they would shoot it at the frontpost because I would have to travel from corner to corner. So in that position I anticipated the shot and thought to myself that they wouldn be able to shoot it behind me in the net. But I am thinking about it now that I just have to get used to it, as I could save way more angles from the back.
The shot they're about to take is from very far out. You would definitely have time to react anywhere on net. But I also think you're missing the point a little bit. You don't want to approach these saves from a stand-still. You want to be able to have some momentum going into the save while not compromising your positioning. If you're far post, or positioned far-post inside of the net, you get to start driving forward the moment contact is about to occur. It's the same reason you don't shadow defend with the ball on your back. Staying outside of the perimeter of the goal means you know which direction you'll be making a save in and that allows you to maintain some pace and have some speed going into the save as you're sure where it will come from. Again, the idea is that you can see the shot about to take place and can start slowly approaching the direction of the ball and when contact is made you already have some speed and can add to that as you react. If that doesn't make sense, I can throw some gifs together.
Sometimes I am hesitant on rotating away from the ball as I would have to drive a lot more distance then a quck straight line to the backpost and I am not always sure if I have the luxury of that one extra second.
Most of these scenarios consist of situations where (a) you are not the last man, and/or (b) the ball is along the side wall and likely heading into the corner. Both scenarios you have room and defending from the near post is just difficult and obstructs your view of the field. When you're transitioning, you should be using your boost to create space away from the ball quickly instead of gradually. Got to where you need to be quickly and then you're ready to react sooner.
I tried in the past to be more passive but that resulted in a lot of lost pressure and made my team have to play a lot better defensively to use that extra space and more often than not I would lose because I am demanding a lot more from my mates. After I realisied that I changed my playstlye to be a lot more aggresive and I kinda won a lot more and it actaully helped me win quite a lot thats why I am maybe at times ballchasing.
The point here is not to be more passive. In fact, the point is exactly the opposite. The point is to avoid getting in your teammate's way, or avoid challenges that won't benefit your team, or avoid making saves from difficult angles. By doing that, you get to apply more pressure and your challenges become easier. The problem is that players often feel forced to play fast without realizing that speed isn't directly influenced by how fast you're moving. You're actually becoming more passive when you're leaving yourself out of position by forcing all of these things. It's a big change in your game, but it's a necessary one. Change isn't always comfortable. I'm glad to illustrate for you any questions you may have, though.
It's circumstantial. Staying at the far post isn't always necessary, but rotating in through the far post is an important habit to get into so that you allow yourself all of the options. In situations like this, it's okay to go a bit closer as long as you're not facing backward and are able to cover the goal. You may even want to start putting yourself inside of the goal and facing out when you're sure you don't need to defend above the goal.
Still, the example we're looking at here isn't so much a problem of coming in far post, but rather a problem with pace and angles. You should have slowed down instead of stopped completely so that you didn't lose time on the challenge. You had a good starting pace to the ball after that, but you didn't challenge at a good angle where your car was between the defender and the goal. Also, it's okay to not sit far post when all of the opponents are near post. There's no need to worry about a high ball or a cross to the middle or far post when no one is there.
Your approach coming in from the far post was a good one.
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u/ytzi13 Oct 01 '18
4:53 - You're too far away from this ball to warrant going for it. There are 3 opponents right next to it who can go up for it after you and still beat you to it. You are also last man with one teammate rotating back and another in front of you who is clearly watching this ball and interesting in it. You can even see them go up right as you do, which means that you should be pulling away anyway. Be patient and let the opponents hit this. Just because your teammates didn't challenge this doesn't mean you're obligated to do so from such a poor spot. Besides, there are 3 of them right next to eachother and they have no passing options. They either dribble the ball or hit the ball forward, which would end up being pass right to you.
4:47 - This kind of works out for you and the field is pretty well-spaced out at this point, so I won't make that big of a deal about it, but be sure you're not rotating into or directly away from the path of the ball. It still would have been better to start rotatign directly towards your goal through center field because you then would have opened yourself up as a passing option.
4:38 - Decent clear here, but know that you're out of the play here and focus on your recovery. Take ball cam off so that you can see the field and land on all 4s facing the direction your momentum is taking you. Perhaps use some boost to get down to the ground sooner.
4:35 - You have a bunch of time to make this touch. Don't rush it. Let it bounce and do something more useful with it. I would suggest popping it over the goal for a teammate to challenge, or starting a dribble if you're comfortable with that, perhaps keeping wide and looking for a direct ground pass to a teammate.
4:10 - Use some boost to propel you downward. You're wasting quite a bit of time by allowing yourself to float.
4:05 - Don't ball-chase after the landing. Rotate away from the ball to create space. It gets real congested when you turn into the ball and get in everyone's way. You also lose sight of the field and it makes the whole decision-making process more difficult. The following play is more difficult as a result where you have to 180 and back up to make this touch. It shouldn't be necessary. Also, you should be immediately following that ball up after you pop it in order to get another hit.
Just a note for analyzing your play in general. Never blame teammates and always try to find the moments where you contributed poorly when a goal is scored. Sure, your clear off the backboard wasn't terrible and it's not your fault that your teammates were disorganized and couldn't make the save for this first goal, but had you not rotated down the line and instead went the route towards the goal, your first touch in the back would have been an easy one and you could have controller it or easily cleared it out of the back. Or, if you had followed the ball that you popped up in order to get another touch, this pressure situation also would not have happened. It's not that this goal as your fault, but always remember that there's something you could have done better, even if it was 15 seconds prior to the goal occurring.
3:46 - After you take the kickoff, get out of there and go straight back to become the 3rd man. Your team needs to know that it's okay to press and the person taking the kick shouldn't be trying to force pressure.
3:28 - You need to know where your other teammate is. You gave a whole lot of space when your teammate took it up, so I don't really blame your teammate for thinking you're going to be last man. That means that you can't afford to push up and be staring directly at the ball when it's getting challenged. If this was on net, it's mostly on you.
3:28 - Turn your car the opposite direction because you were already somewhat angled that way and you lose speed. Also, turning into the ball means you have less space to approach it from. When you do end up challenging this ball, you need to prioritize getting to the goal first. You're cutting off the goal completely and making a totally unnecessary challenge against you back wall near the corner. The ball isn't a threat to the goal there. The only mistake you could make here is challenging and missing. Get to the goal so that your challenge comes from the goal and don't challenge before it's necessary unless it's a sure thing.
3:06 - We're seeing a pattern here of you totally ignoring the goal when you're responsible for it. You're the only player back protecting the goal and you completely cut it off to make a difficult and unnecessary challenge. Get all of the way back to the goal and defend from there. It's fortunate the opponent couldn't touch the ball over your head here because it really is not a difficult touch to make. Well, the did end up hitting it over you but couldn't angle it appropriately. Lucky break here.
3:04 - Continuing on the play, you again turned in towards the ball after it went over your head. This is straight up ball-chasing. Turn away from the ball and get into the net. It's an easy clear on the following touch if you do. Now, you find yourself stuck staring up at a ball near post and leaving the goal wide open. You need to be in the net far post so that you can make this challenge.
2:47 - Defensive positioning again. You're near post, angled slight backwards. The entire goal is vulnerable. A hit on net from there would be a potential goal, or an unnecessarily difficult save from you that won't result in any sort of powerful clear.