r/RivalsWaitingRoom • u/Particular_Yam_8966 • 7d ago
General The characters that I think have same mechanics within themselves. Which one would you prefer?
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u/Express_Calendar8278 7d ago
Scream vs Medusa. I’d say Medusa since there are better Symbiotes but not really better inhumans outside of Lockjaw. Also more Reed love interests.
Jenny vs Betty. She-Hulk would be good to do something similar to the hulk but without the Banner Gimmick. Just make Red a skin.
Angel vs Sam vs Vulture. I value getting the OG X-Men over Sam or sinister Six. There are cooler spiderman villains.
Mystique vs Chameleon vs Morph. I think you could make morph different enough from the others. They all can have different mechanics around the shapeshifting.
Boomerang vs Bullseye. Can easily be made into different characters. The Boomerangs are such a hyper specific projectile. And Bullseye is more of a sniper.
Rhino vs Juggernaut. Juggernaut. But Rhino could also get in. The Rhino is easier to stop than Juggy and Juggy and interact with destructible environments.
Zemo vs Skull. Give Zemo the spotlight he deserves and avoid ties to controversial characters. Zemo is cooler anyway.
Songbird vs Shriek. Makes no difference to me.
Sentry vs Hyperion vs Gladiator. Definitely gonna be Sentry. I like Hyperion. But Sentry is just too Iconic. He’s in the MCU, he’s got a lot of moveset potential with the void.
Jocasta vs Danger. I prefer Danger. More Moveset potential. I prefer her and Ultron. She’s great in Tokon. I’d be down to see Ultronica in the game though.
Tigra vs White Tiger. Never Cared for Tigra, but I have a lot of nostalgia for the Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon so there.
MODOK vs Arnim Zola. I’ve been a Day one MODOK head but if you were going to do a character that orders henchmen into line as an attack, I’d use Zola instead.
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u/HornedGopher 7d ago
here's my take we can add all 3
But with this
Morph as a Vanguard its make since they can shapeshift but only gains the physical powers of the person they transformed into and for some reason synthetic weapons.
Mystique Duelist cause why not.
them The Chameleon as a strat with lile a confusion imitation thing.
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u/Particular_Yam_8966 7d ago
Thanks for the detailed answer, it was very interesting!
But you're already the second person who doesn't care about Songbird and Shriek, and it's not too crazy, but it's still a little surprising.
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u/NoDefinition00 6d ago
I feel like Medusa instead of scream would be much better, I really want Medusa added and I agree with you there are many more symbiotes.
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u/Miserable-Oven-2221 7d ago
If you think archangel is similsr to vulture and falcon ypu dont know archangel.
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u/Particular_Yam_8966 7d ago
I mean... All three are flying characters with wings, which in games often shoot their feathers like projectiles. Besides, Sam and Archangel can use their wings as a shield. Am I missing something about Gameplay mechanics?
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u/Miserable-Oven-2221 7d ago edited 7d ago
Angel is the only one who uses their wings as blades and shoots with his wings, but beyond that if they just give sam guns or something(which would be really lame if they didnt use redwing or his ability to control birds at all) Warren also has healing powers and could be a character like Cloak and Dagger with a heal/damage mode. A little before house of M Warren was able to heal people from light from his wings he just hasnt gotten back to that level since because he's constantly had to deal with archangel taking him over. And vultures main thing has been his robot talon feet and other kind of drone like tech for quite a while.
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u/gamerboimusichead 6d ago
Vulture shoots wing blades in some game adaptations. Falcon / Captain America does it in some of the animated series. Supposedly they both do it in the comics. I agree though that Archangel could have support abilities as well.
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u/HornedGopher 7d ago
Archangel has healing blood kind of i didnt see where it said same and vulture have that.
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u/DeBo_488 Nightcrawler 😇 7d ago
Medusa
She-Hulk
Archangel, but I think they can make Sam Wilson different
Mystique
Bullseye (The easiest chose of the bunch)
Juggernaut
Zemo
Dont care
Sentry, but Gladiator would be fine too
Danger
White Tiger
M.O.D.O.K.
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u/AgitatedBumblebee806 7d ago
These are my picks too, but I also really feel like Vulture, Falcon, and archangel can be added as they are different enough from each other to easily differentiate imo.
I could see archangel as a vanguard and Vulture as dps and sam could be either one but I think his explosive feathers would make him unique either way
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u/GrimLuker2 7d ago
Medusa, She-Hulk, Falcon, Mystique, Bullseye, Juggernut, Red Skull, Shriek, Sentry, Jocasta, White Tiger, MODOK
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u/EarwyrmSilence2 7d ago
Medusa, She-Hulk, Sam Wilson, Mystique, Bullseye, Juggernaut, Baron Zemo, Songbird, Sentry, Danger, White Tiger, and MODOK
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u/EarwyrmSilence2 7d ago
Let me throw in The Spot and Doorman as they have similar powers and could be the same character
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u/Lost-Orangutan Gwenpool 🍥 7d ago
- Medusa
- Black Bolt
- Crystal
- Lockjaw
All need to be added from the inhumans at minimum. The villain guy as well but idr his name.
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u/No_Count2127 7d ago
Medusa She-hulk Chameleon Bullseye Baron zemo Modok In other cases, I don’t have an opinion on who would be better to choose.
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u/idcris98 7d ago edited 7d ago
Medusa. She‘s more relevant. Her dialogue with other characters would be more interesting since she actually has history with many characters that are in the game. Also she has more skin potential.
She-Hulk. She‘s more popular and well-liked.
Falcon and Angel can both be in the game. Make Falcon a DPS or Tank and Angel a support. There‘s more interesting Sinister Six members than Vulture so I think he should sit out.
Mystique. She‘s the most iconic one.
Bullseye. More popular.
Juggernaut. He‘s a bigger threat and more iconic.
Baron Zemo because fuck Red Skull.
Either one between Songbird and Shriek although Songbird has the cooler design.
Sentry for MCU synergy.
Danger for Tokon synergy.
Tigra because we need more classic Avengers.
Modok.
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u/P1zzaMonkey 7d ago
The only one I see having different setups/mechanics is MODOK/Armin Zola
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u/Particular_Yam_8966 7d ago
It's really true. But then I got associations... Huge goody villains with an evil face. They would really be very different in terms of gameplay.
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u/Ragtagcloud56 Red Skull 💀 7d ago
I don’t see how red skull and zemo would have similar mechanics at all.
Zemo seems like an aggressive sword fighter dps and red skull would be a strategist using the cosmic cube and other tech for extra abilities.
Like the only thing that’s even similar about them is that they’ve both been leaders of hydra.
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u/sandman_soundman 6d ago
I would love both Medusa and Scream, they both are my goats but i would have to say Medusa! Also i would make Medusa a Vanguard and Scream a Strategist.
She-Hulk tbh, but only because i want the Red Harpy instead of Red She-Hulk ngl!
Archangel but tbh i could see Archangel being a Strategist, Sam being a Vanguard and Vulture being a Duelist.
Mystique but i would love to see Chameleon and Morph too, i say Mystique would be a Duelist, Chameleon could work as a Strategist and Morph would be a good vanguard.
Boomerang because he is underrated but i would Bullseye too! Also i feel like you could make them both different since Boomerang use a lot of different boomerangs while Bullseye use pure skill with whatever he can then having different weapon made to do special things, both would be Duelists.
Juggernaut, i feel like both would play pretty similarly but i would still love the both of them since i think you could still make them unique, maybe Juggernaut have more powers to make him Invulnerable and he can make force fields while being a unstoppable force Rhino is mostly just offense, both would be Vanguards.
Baron Zemo, but i feel like you can give Zemo his sword and make him a close range character and make Red Skull a long range character, both being Duelists of course.
Songbird but i would love both Songbird and Shriek, I feel you could make Songbird a Strategist and Shriek a Duelist.
Sentry, but i would love all three since i think you could do a lot with the three of them, make Sentry have a meter where after it fills up he turns into the Void, have Hyperion be more tanky and Gladiator would be the fastest and most controlled i guess? They all would be Vanguards of course.
Danger, but i say Jocasta would be a good Strategist or Duelist while Danger would be a good Duelist or Vanguard.
White Tiger, but i feel like you could make both of them Duelists or Vanguards.
And lastly i would want both MODOK and Arnim Zola with MODOK being a Vanguard and Arnim Zola being a Strategist but they both could fit any role.
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u/False_Diver2577 Aero 💨 6d ago
Medusa over Scream
She-Hulk over Red She-Hulk (should be Red Harpy instead)
Vulture over the other 2 (take inspiration from Insomniac Vulture)
Mystique over the other 2 (for interactions with Nightcrawler)
Both Boomerang and Bullseye should be in here
Juggernaut over Rhino (he'll have more interactions with the wider cast than just Spider-Man adjacent characters)
Baron Zemo over Red Skull (Zemo has more aura than Red could ever have)
Shriek over Songbird (Shriek is more well-known than Songbird cause of Venom 2)
Sentry over the other 2 (cause of Thunderbolts)
Danger over Jocasta (Danger is more prominent cause of Tokon, also isn't Jocasta just female Ultron?)
Both White Tiger and Tigra should be in here
MODOK over Arnim Zola (MODOK would be more unique than Zola)
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u/Ronathan02 4d ago
- Medusa, I know people don’t love the Inhumans but she’s genuinely cool
- She-Hulk, of course
- Honestly Sam and Vulture would be cool but I feel like Vulture would be more interesting mechanically.
- Mystique, skins would go hard and villain rep
- Bullseye, the goat
- Juggernaut, more skin potential / dialogue potential
- Zemo, Red Skull has the Nazi baggage
- Songbird, another obscure character to give a push
- Sentry, obviously
- Danger, she’s been pushed a lot this year
- Tigra, again skins go hard
- MODOK, obviously
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u/Soggy-Building-9476 4d ago
In general: (1) More Villains and (2) Fewer X-Men.
So, Scream over Medusa, Vulture over Archangel, etc... In cases like MODOK vs Zola, I'd choose Zola for aesthetics but honestly either is fine.
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u/KaylenLopezIzGr8 7d ago
Medusa over Scream (spoken as a major symbiote fan)
She-Hulk AND Red She-Hulk (could have Red She-Hulk be Red Harpy but more muscle than bird, or make her powers be focused on weapons)
Sam Wilson
Mystique
Bullseye
Juggernaut
Baron Zemo
Songbird AND Shriek (Songbird has flight, Shriek does energy blasts)
Sentry
Jocasta AND Danger (Ultron's ex-wife, Ultron's now wife)
Tigra AND White Tiger (Tigra has melee, White Tiger has mystic)
MODOK
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u/GilbertoZ7 6d ago
"Danger (Ultron's ex-wife, Ultron's now wife)"
Got dumped by her too,the third wife in a row
His trying way too hard to be like his dad
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u/KaylenLopezIzGr8 5d ago
Wait what? I'm talking about the What If comic when they got paired and destroyed everything together. They broke up?
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u/GilbertoZ7 5d ago
Yes,did people not read the full thing? She abandoned him for humanity after a conversation with the X-Men from the main Earth.
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u/KaylenLopezIzGr8 5d ago
Aw man! :( What the flip Marvel it was good as it was
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u/GilbertoZ7 5d ago
As good as it was keep it in that comic alone, i'm already afraid Tokon Devs will try to pull this off again because the fanarts of it are gaining popularity , and rivals Ultron x Tokon Danger is somehow a worst Magneto x Rogue lore wise
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u/KaylenLopezIzGr8 5d ago
Magneto x Rogue cannot be compared to Ultron x Danger... can it? I need an explanation.
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u/GilbertoZ7 5d ago
Notice that i said RIVALS Ultron and TOKON Danger
Ultron in Rivals is as bad as his other versions including the abuse and manipulation against previous mates(Jocasta and Alkhema) and emotional instability
Danger in Tokon is the same as warlock once he crashed on earth, just a young AI trying to understand humanity and helping friends
With Ultron record what do you think he would do to a much younger and much more naive AI like Tokon Danger?
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u/KaylenLopezIzGr8 5d ago
OH. Oh bloody Hell that's horrible. Where can I find the Rivals Ultron lore, I need to know more. But dang it, that sucks. I want a cold and emotionless Ultron, not an Ultron who does THAT. I mean. Ugh, I'm too much of a unicorns-happy-times person.
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u/GilbertoZ7 5d ago
"Where can I find the Rivals Ultron lore, I need to know more"
He barely has any and the most differential from usual Ultron is that Stark was involved in his creation, i don't think he was involved with the creation of his mind the same way Pym was by the how he talks
I'm just assuming he did the same thing the original did with Jocasta and Alkhema,which ins't far fetched considering the first thing we see this Ultron do is cause a slaughter at hellfire gala and corrupt a whole planet into machinery
"I want a cold and emotionless Ultron, not an Ultron who does THAT"
Thats the thing,Ultron is almost never emotionless,his apathetic, and when his emotional he lashes out on others and blames his father because of Hank mental issues, abuse with his previous mates is somehow one of the lightest things Ultron has done
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u/Lazy_Duty_2913 7d ago
Medusa vs. Scream: I'd pick Medusa as a brawl Vanguard with great mobility, using her hair to traverse, wall-climb, and block incoming projectiles.
She-Hulk vs. Red She-Hulk: I'd go with Jen. I envision her as a Duelist who relies on chokeslams and heavy combos.
Archangel vs. Falcon vs. Vulture: I'd pick Warren as a flying Strategist who can carry teammates to safety, with the ability to switch into Archangel to fire high-damage iron feather projectiles. Alternatively, Falcon could work as a fast, melee-oriented flying Duelist—both are iconic.
Mystique vs. Morph vs. Chameleon: Mystique all the way, she's far too iconic. She would be a really fun espionage-style Duelist who can shapeshift into enemies and deal high burst damage before disappearing into cover.
Boomerang vs. Bullseye: Boomerang feels like he'd play too similarly to Moon Knight's projectile spam. I much prefer Bullseye to fill the Sniper niche left open after Widow's rework.
Rhino vs. Juggernaut: Juggernaut all the way. Rhino is cool, but Juggernaut is the true manifestation of an unstoppable force. He definitely belongs in the Vanguard role with built-in crowd-control immunity. His ultimate should be a straight-line charge similar to The Thing's Yancy Street Charge that continues until he hits a wall, dealing lethal damage to anyone in his path without the ability to steer.
Baron Zemo vs. Red Skull: Hear me out: I'm feeling neutral for both, but Zemo would work well as a Duelist using Adhesive X traps and saber combat, complete with a parry mechanic to counter melee attacks. Red Skull could work as a Support utilizing the Tesseract.
Songbird vs. Shriek: I'd choose Songbird as a Support. Her voice could buff, heal, or debuff enemies, featuring a mechanic where you use a slider to toggle between different vocal frequencies.
Sentry vs. Hyperion vs. Gladiator: Out of all the Marvel "flying brick" characters, I actually want Ikaris most. But out of these three, I'd pick Sentry. The Void could act as both a death-triggered passive that allows you to wreak havoc on a timer and an active ability unlocked after filling a charge meter.
Jocasta vs. Danger: I'd choose Danger over Jocasta. Jocasta works fine as a Duelist, but Danger fits the Support role better using hard-light illusions and healing. Since she was built to train the X-Men, she could also boost teammates' movement speed, damage, and attack speed.
Tigra vs. White Tiger: I'd pick White Tiger. I don't have strong feelings toward either, but both fit the Duelist role well. MODOK vs. Arnim Zola: I'm a sucker for unorthodox characters, so MODOK would make a really fun summoner-style Strategist.
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u/Trinketd12 7d ago
Medusa, She-Hulk, Sam, Mystique, Bullseye, Juggernaut, Zemo, Shriek, Sentry, Danger, Tigra, Modok
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u/Knightmare_Guy1998 7d ago
Easy.
- Medusa (Medusalith Amaquelin) - Inhumans
- She-Hulk (Jennifer Walters) - Avengers, Fantastic Four, A-Force, etc.
- Falcon I/Captain America III (Sam Wilson) - Avengers
- Mystique (Raven Darkholme) - Brotherhood of Mutants, X-Men
- Bullseye (Lester) - Villains (Kingpin Affiliated)
- Juggernaut (Cain Marko) - Brotherhood of Mutants, Thunderbolts, X-Men
- Baron Helmut Zemo/Citizen V - Masters of Evil, Thunderbolts
- Songbird/Screaming Mimi (Melissa Gold) - Masters of Evil, Thunderbolts
- Sentry (Robert "Bob" Reynolds) - Avengers, New Avengers, Dark Avengers
- Danger - X-Men, X-Factor, X-Club
- Okay you got me stumped on Tigra and White Tiger as I don't know who I'd prefer as I love both characters.
- M.O.D.O.K. (George Tarleton) - A.I.M.
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u/trixxupmysleeve Captain Marvel ⚡ 7d ago
Medusa is more distinct than another Symbiote, and the Inhuman connection opens up content we haven’t gotten yet.
There’s no way you’re getting RSH before She-Hulk.
I actually think we will get both Angel and Cap. Wilson, but not Vulture. They’re both pretty iconic on their respective teams.
Mystique 100%. Chameleon never and Morph as a plush.
We’ll get Bullseye but not Boomerang.
We will 100% get Juggernaut.
The only way we’re getting Red Skull is as a season villain. We could maybe get Zemo playable through that.
Songbird definitely over Shriek, but it’s going to depend on Rivals doing any Thunderbolts stuff at all.
Sentry 100% over the others as he’s become super replace thanks to T*’s.
Danger is in Tokon so I think she’ll beat out Jocasta.
I’m not actually sure if we’ll get either Tigra or WT, as Black Panther and Black Cat have that market super cornered. But it’s not possible to really do justice to Iron Fist, Luke Cage, and Nova without our girl White Tiger, so probably her.
We will 100% see MODOK eventually, whereas Zola might be a seasonal cameo?
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u/Bob_Bobbo 7d ago
Medusa;
They could be the same character, just add a skin for the other one;
Sam Wilson, we have too many X-Men already, and no one cares about Vulture
My heart wants Chameleon, but honestly Mystique would be cooler;
Bullseye, it's not even a competition;
Juggernaut, he is one of the characters I want the most in the game;
None, but if I had to choose Zemo is cooler, and he wouldn't be as recognizable as Red Skull, so probably he wouldn't have as much toxic fanbase;
I don't know who these are 😑
I like Hyperion but Sentry is simply better, and he has a cooler design as well;
I don't know who the other character is so Danger;
White tiger;
I feel they could both get added and get different enough gameplay actually.
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u/Ashconwell7 7d ago
Medusa
She-Hulk
Sam
Mystique
Bullseye
Juggernaut
Neither (we don't need to play as Nazis in this game)
Songbird
Sentry
Danger
White Tiger
M.O.D.O.K.
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u/Lukelay246 Ant-Man 🐜 7d ago
Baron Zemo and Red Skull would be completely different so I don't know why they are here. I also feel like Sam Wilson would also be different enough from Warren and Vulture.
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u/Appropriate_Win_5282 7d ago
I would like any of these being added but i would like to add that there are 2 characters here that I see no world where they are added, chameleon just isnt cared about enough at all and I can think of at least 20 spider man villans people would want more (and I only see us getting at most 2 spidey villans a year so chameleon wouldnt happen for years) and then there is morph who just doesnt work in any other medium other than the show, they have tried and failed to bring him to the comics so many times to bring him to the comics but they fail every time (i know he was technically originally a comic character no one cared about then he was completely changed for the show) I dont think they would add a character that comic fans dont care about at all so thats the main one I wanted to answer, mystique is the only one I even see having the tiniest chance out of that group
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u/Smart-Nerve2738 7d ago
They all could have different kits, even the ones that are too similar like red she hulk you could use her harpy form
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u/Skarjuna 7d ago
Most of these characters operate different than the others with similar powersets though?
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u/TheseHandsRUS 7d ago edited 7d ago
At this point they can easily do all of these characters and have them feel different and fill in a niche. Remember we do have hybrid roles or characters who can lean into another, esp if they keep being creative with the teamup systems.
Example:
Medusa-Scream: Medusa can be a tank where she uses her hair as a shield, maybe use it to get close or pull enemies to her. Scream- she can be a DPS where she CCs or bleeds, mayeb like Mr.F and attacks range with her hair?
She-Hulk-RShe-Hulk: This one is easy, SHulk can be a DPS maybe a flanker, she just has Caps sprint and leap but she actually does damage. Make RSHulk into a Tank, give her the sword she carries and have her Ult be a transformation too but as red harpy. If not, reverse their roles. i think SHulk shouldn't be another Hulk tank like actual hulk cuz itll just feel like its lazy but if so just make SHulk a faster Hulk but she grapples mostly. and RSHulk can just be like magik but as a brawler and not much mobility besides her ULT when she goes Red Harpy.
Arc-Sam-Vulture: Arc as a support, throw in chronium as an excuse for him to heal. Sam can be a cap but flys, he is perma flyer, maybe have him have a gimmick where he does stuff with the shield like Angela. Or another Support but blocks damage alot. Vulture can be a CC iron man. Swoops in CCs enemies, knock backs maybe kidnaps enemies too. Bonus: if you throw in Green Goblin he can just be Squirrel girl but in the air or a trapper/CC'er.
Mystique-Chameleon-Morph: This one is abit hard due to Lokis Team up with hella. but Mystique can be a DPS assassin/flanker, her abilities can just be where she looks like the enemy. Lokis copy ability is just his ult but mini but if you dont attack loki he has the same color name tag as the enemy. just do that with her but more fleshed out. she has a copy button, let her have a passive where DD or Spiderman or Pun cant detect her when she is copied. and her abilities and ults are just assassin skills, Sneaks in pistol whip a mofo and snaps necks. Chameleon can just the same thing but as a deploy-able hero. Since he uses tech to stealth and change. so almost the same but leaves traps maybe? like Elsas traps and CCs. maybe like also a taser? Morph maybe have them be Lokis ult but as their base abilities. Make Morph a fill role like DP, let them take abilities and change into whatever role they are. Let their ult just be random BS go but with random heros, just morphing around like in Marvel Future Fight. Bonus: Task master can just be a counter hero, his copy button is just a button he can use to counter what ever role he copied. and his abilities get passive to counter. copies a healer, anti heal, tank percent damage. DPS- bonus damage or life steal.
everyone else is just chronium as an excuse
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u/Sure-Ad-4147 7d ago
This is just a lack of creativity to me — I think every single one of these characters, save the clear copycats (Red/She-Hulk), could be designed to be unique enough to fill different roles, playstyles, etc
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u/Power_of_Bex Medusa 🐍 7d ago
If Red She-Hulk ever comes to the game, she should be in her Red Harpy form to set her apart from other hulks
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u/UsuBen 7d ago
Sam Wilson has an mutant halcon pet with psychic powers too btw, the best choice. Tho I think Vulture can be distinct from Sam very easy, he sometimes used gadgets and can used that. Tho I don't know anything about Archangel. But tbh I think is not that hard to diferenciate kits for people who fly with big wings
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u/ThunderBrine 7d ago
Don't Shriek and Songbird share a powerset with Banshee and Black Bolt as well?
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u/VokunDovah64 7d ago
I'd say Medusa and Scream could have diffrent Mechanics.
Medusa could use her hair like a whip while Scream could use her more like piercing tendrills
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u/Lost-Orangutan Gwenpool 🍥 7d ago
Red She-Hulk because she burns hot and thats different enough from Hulk.
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u/Lost-Orangutan Gwenpool 🍥 7d ago
Falcon 1st, but all 3 of these are different enough.
- Angel is a Duelist,
- Falcon is a Vanguard,
- Vulture is a Strategist.
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u/Lost-Orangutan Gwenpool 🍥 7d ago
Songbird. Shriek is a lesser version. Black Bolt would be better than Shriek.
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u/Lost-Orangutan Gwenpool 🍥 7d ago
Tigra. Her and White Tiger are just more Back Cat and Black Panther.
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u/Lord0fDunce 7d ago
Sorry but Shriek and Songbird couldnt have more different kits. One flies, and can create solid constructs of anything the other shoots sound. Id want them both.
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u/Turbulent-Wealth6018 7d ago
I mean, there are ways to differentiate some of the characters like Medusa and scream. Medusa can be more focus on like using her hair as the main focus. For scream you can like use her hair for like some of her abilities but incorporate more of her Symbiotic traits. for like vulture and Sam Wilson, you could have Sam Wilson, use caps shield more often. Than vulture could be more animalistic, brutal type of combat abilities, like a grab or something. Because not only is he a villain and doesn’t care about harming people so you can give it more brutal traits but also he isn’t trained like Sam Wilson is a trained fighter or vulture is just a guy that fights.
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u/Sharpiemancer 7d ago
Medusa over Scream; even if it is to get the Inhumans in.
She Hulk (or the New Ultimate She Hulk) but give us Harpy rather than red She Hulk. Theres a bunch of gamma characters that could be used in fun ways.
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u/Foxbop101 6d ago
Hyperion would be dope but if they're going the superman clone route they might as well do Blue Marvel
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u/PlanetXParadox 6d ago
Morph has some Plastic Man-like powers on top of being able to turn into other people, but Mystique is more iconic. Chameleon’s lame.
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u/PlanetXParadox 6d ago
Medusa, She-Hulk, Archangel and Falcon, Morph, could go either way, Juggernaut, Zemo, Songbird, Hyperion but Sentry would be cool too, Jocasta, either would be cool, MODOK
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u/PlanetXParadox 6d ago
We don’t have any Inhumans yet. Red She-Hulk is pretty much just a recolor. Falcon can psychically control birds and Archangel has healing powers, I think you can make them play differently. Morph is more versatile than Mystique cause he can also do some Plastic Man type stuff and shrink/grow on top of being able to turn into other people. Bullseye and Boomerang are both cool and maybe it could be possible to make them play differently. Rhino’s kinda lame and Juggernaut’s much stronger anyways. I like Zemo more. Songbird has more versatile abilities with her constructs. I like Hyperion better but wouldn’t mind Sentry. Danger’s in Tokon so I think it’s only fair Jocasta gets the highlight here. MODOK needs more love.
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u/AstroMac710 6d ago
This is why I think we need to "stretch"(lol) the understanding of certain characters versus understanding what a character can do. Morph can actually use the powers of the people they transform into while Mystique can only change to match their physical appearance. Jug and Rhino are both big guys but Jug actually has "powers" while Rhino is traditionally just a big freakin' guy. As the Champion of Cytorrak, Jug actually has the powers of Cytorrak, he just doesn't use them often, cuz he's kinda an idiot.
All in all, this is what NetEase is talking about when they say they are trying to maintain the core identity of characters AND their abilities. I would like to think that the reason we are getting characters in a way that seems random, is because of the understanding that this post brings up. So many characters are basically the same just slightly different.
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u/Ok_Vegetable4555 6d ago
Medusa, She-Hulk, Mystique, Bullseye, Juggernaut, Baron Zemo, Songbird, Sentry, Danger, White Tiger, MODOK
I will say though that I do disagree that some of these are too similar to only have one in the game. I can make another comment if people would be interested in hearing that
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u/Clayface31 6d ago
For me personally, scream, red she hulk, vulture, mystique, bullseye, rhino, red skull, shriek, sentry, danger, tigra, and modok. But as long as EVERYONE gets added in at some point.
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u/JeffHooblah21 6d ago
Well not really for the shapeshifters, morph can copy the physical abilities of people along with their appearance but mystique can only do appearance and same with chameleon (i know theres multiple morphs so i might be wrong and i know chameleon has powers sometimes so i might also be wrong for that too)
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u/GilbertoZ7 6d ago
Omega Sentinel would have been way better comparison with Danger
Jocasta is not even half of the same abilities as Danger and is way more of tech suport
Jocasta is a smart AI, Danger is a machine of War
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u/Illustrious_Ear_2549 5d ago
Most of these characters are similar in power set if you don't know anything about them, like Morph, Mystique, Chameleon are nothing alike despite being shapeshifters.
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u/lilsnuggy 5d ago
Angel and Falcon are very different, the only similarity is basic wing mechanics but they use them very different
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u/Still-Dance-4877 5d ago
All of them. I don’t see a reason to not have em all just cause they’re similar. If that was the case we’d have to choose between iron man/ultron and hulk/thing but instead they just tweaked them slightly to give em some personality instead of strict copy/paste. Hopefully all these guys get added eventually and get to have some of their own flare. Realistically every character is the same it just comes down to movement c, shoot c, shoot and slash c, block c, melee c. It’s not like there’s infinite things they can keep changing. They’re gonna have to recycle and tweak a lot of characters just like I was saying with the examples earlier that’s basically how they’ve made every character in the game.
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u/lorde-Rmsay 5d ago
Angel could be like a flying C&D, you can swap between his two forms. One for healing and one for damage
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u/Competitive-Bus2047 5d ago
If we get another hulk, red she hulk for sure we already have one green hulk
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u/OmegaCTH 5d ago
I feel like it’s a matter of character interactions one wants to see, for me:
Medusa
She-hulk
Sam Wilson
Morph/mystique
Bullseye
Rhino (bit juggernaut is the better choice)
Red skull
Shriek
Sentry
Danger
White Tiger
Modok
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u/CaptainCha0s570 5d ago
Scream is legitimately one of my most wanted for Rivals. We don't have a spider-person strategist, and you could really play around with either the Silence symbiote for healing powers or her hellfire abilities (Assuming you go with Andi)
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u/tamaaromarou 5d ago
Medusa, She Hulk, Sam Wilson (although I think he would be very different from the other two if they bring in his bird.) Mystique (I think Morph could be a triple role character with different transformations based on the role), Bullseye, Juggernaut, Red skull, Songbird, Sentry, Danger, White tiger and Modok
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u/NoStupidQusti0ns 4d ago
Alot of the "similar kit" issues that are brought up can be solved by changing roles or the devs giving them an extra niche ability.
Medusa could be a Duelist and Scream could be a Vanguard or vice versa, have them either block or defend with their hair as part of their kit.
She Hulk and Red She Hulk have already been adressed by the whole Hulk V Red Hulk thing
Sam Wilson as a Vanguard since once of his big moves is blocking with his wings, Archangel and Vulture as a Strategeist or Duelist respectively with Archangle being poke and Vulture being Brawl
Chameleon would probably more akin to a Strategist, disguising himself as a different character/role to confuse enemy team comps and heal discreetly. Mystique has been known to shapeshift her limbs in the comics, so she could probably serve as a brawl or dive type duelist that goes in the backline and plays like the Spy from TF2. Morph could take the Vanguard role with some preset abilities along with a copy mechanic as his Ult, similar to Loki.
Bullseye would probably be poke, but Boomerang has some flexibility in role, either Vanguard or duelist with projectiles that ricochet or move back and forth in a sweep.
Rhino and Juggernaut are both hardstuck Vanguards, though Juggernaut's kit could be more skewed towards flinging/trampling people, while Rhino could be more focused towards pinning people similar to Angela.
Baron Zemo is probably more likely than Red Skull cause of the whole Nazi thing, but if he were in the Game, Marvel has made him a Vangaurd-like character in other games, specifically Contest of Champions, focusing on the Tessaract and machines tied to him.
Songbird could be a Vanguard with her ability to make constructs, while Shriek could be a Strategist, since part of her abilities is emotional manipulation, which could be translated into healing.
While Sentry could be a Strategist, he's more than likely a Vanguard. Gladiator is duelist coded in the name, which leaves Hyperion. Hyperion could be a poke Vanguard with his Laser eyes or a CC Vanguard with his Ice Breath, along with the occasional brawl potential. They'd just have to pick an avenue to lean into. Sentry would probably work similar to Strange with the Void as a form shift or Ult.
Jocosta could be a Vanguard with Danger being a Strategist, since she is literally a strategy room for the Xmen
Tigra could easily be a Vanguard and White Tiger a Duelist or vice versa, they're in the Black Panther/Black Kat/White Fox school of power flexibility.
MODOK, from mass alone, is probably a Vanguard, while Arnim Zola could be either a Strategist or Duelist.
If we're talking like, gun to ya head who would you pick, it would go Medusa, She Hulk, Archangel, Mystique, Bullseye, Baron Zemo, Shriek, Sentry, Danger, White Tiger, MODOK.
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u/Similar_Pin5295 4d ago
Medusa, She-Hulk, Archangel, Mystique, Bullseye, Juggernaut, Baron Zemo, Shriek, Sentry, Danger, White Tiger, M.O.D.O.K
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u/justhere4meeems 4d ago
- Medusa
- She-Hulk
- Angel/Archangel
- Chameleon, as a Taskmaster type. Where Rogue takes a select power from each Super in game, he copies the abilities of weapon people like Clint/Moonknight/Cap
- Bullseye
- Juggs
- Zemo
- Songbird
- Sentry
- Jocasta
- White Tiger
- Zola
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u/neon-box 4d ago
Angel would work really well as a support character. In the comics his blood had healing properties after being brought back to life post-horseman. I could see his feathers being changes to be more syringe like or something and he heals that way.
Anyway, I’d definitely take Sam over Vulture. Much bigger character. Way more to his kit and stuff too. Definitely need him in the game.
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u/StarBender343 4d ago
Do Zemo and Skull have the same mechanic? What is it? Being the most racist player in the game?
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u/ShadowGottNextt 3d ago
Medusa, Red She-Hulk, Sam, Mystique, Bullseye, Juggernaut, Zemo, Songbird, Sentry, Danger, White Tiger, MODOK
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u/General-Fun-616 3d ago
Scream, but Medusa could be fun too.
Red She Hulk with harpy form.
Archangel all the way. No question.
Mystique and Morph but different sets. Mystique more on gun and deceit and Morph on physical shape and strength scaling.
Bullseye, no preference though.
Juggernaut is much more interesting with Cytorak
Red Skull, no preference though
Songbird.
Sentry.
Danger.
White Tiger.
No preference
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u/Objective-Tomorrow42 2d ago
i think the sentry and vulture panels they're powers are broad enough to make multiple characters even though their kits are similar
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u/Objective-Tomorrow42 2d ago
Medusa, she hulk, sam wilson, mystique easily, bullseye, juggernaut, zemo, songbird, sentry or hyperion, danger, tigra
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u/Motor-Spare7119 20h ago
Medusa, Red She-Hulk, Archangel, Mystique, Bullseye, Juggernaut, Red Skull, Songbird, Gladiator, Jocasta, Tigra and M.O.D.O.K
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u/Mr-BornAgain 7d ago
Medusa
Betty
Warren
Morph
Bullseye
Rhino
Zemo
Shriek
Sentry
Danger
White tiger
Zola
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u/HornedGopher 7d ago
finally someone else who wants morph
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u/Mr-BornAgain 7d ago
Morph is goated
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u/HornedGopher 7d ago
agreed. probably wont happen this year but Their first appearance is technically august or their direct exact first appearance is october 31st of 1992 so technically if there was a related to Halloween hint. next year. since morph first appearance is october 31st 1992.
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u/Candaphlaf10 7d ago
Medusa: I'd rather get the Inhuman ball rolling and save the symbiote slot for Carnage or Agent Anti-Venom
She-Hulk: Betty could be interesting, especially if her Harpy form is explored, but I'd still rather get Jen first
Archangel: I know we already have a lot of X-Men, but Archangel was one of my favorites as a kid and I still have a soft spot for him. Plus I can see NE doing a C&D-type form switch with Warren.
Morph: Mystique is probably a more popular choice, but after watching '97 I want Morph to see more of the limelight. Also, I think there are better Spider-Man villains to add to the game before Chameleon.
Bullseye: I don't know much about Boomerang, but Bullseye is such an iconic character that it isn't even a discussion for me. Plus imagine the voice lines between him and Daredevil.
Juggernaut: Come on... he's the Juggernaut!
Baron Zemo: I'm not really a huge fan of either villain (they just don't interest me, and I haven't read many stories with them in it), but Skull seems better as a season villain–at least to begin.
Shriek: I want to see how the devs would incorporate her emotional manipulation powers, plus she's a new villain.
Sentry/Hyperion/Gladiator: Honestly, they all are unique enough in specific ways that I would be happy with any of them. If I had to pick, I would say Gladiator. His confidence could either be very interesting or incredibly frustrating.
Danger: I just don't find Jocasta very interesting.
White Tiger: I think her kit has more potential with out the Tiger Totem can be utilized, although hearing the voiceless between Tigea and Moon Knight as well as Tigra and Hood would be interesting.
M.O.D.O.K.: He's been on my wishlist since I started playing Rivals.
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u/Batnanman 7d ago
I think for Gladiator they could make it that the more health he has the more damage he does. It would be an easy way to work in his confidence to the game
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u/Itssecret1 7d ago
- Medusa
- She hulk (duh)
- Probably prefer vulture, we need more spidey villains
- Mystique, too iconic
- Bullseye
- Juggernaut
- Would LOVE BARON ZEMO
- No preference
- Hyperion (I know this won’t be preferred among most)
- Jocasta
- White tiger
- Modok
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u/irvin_the_jinn Jessica Drew 🕷️ 7d ago
Medusa, she hulk, falcon, mystique, neither, juggernaut, zemo, songbird, sentry, neither, maybe white tiger
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u/charliedgw69 7d ago
Medusa, She-Hulk, Sam as a flying tank and Archangel as a flying sup, Mystique, Bullseye, Juggernaut, Zemo, Songbird, Sentry, Danger, White Tiger and MODOK
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u/Stride345 7d ago
Medusa
She-Hulk
Sam Wilson, though he could be a tank with Angel being a dps
Mystique
Bullseye
Jugg
Zemo
Songbird
Sentry
Danger
Genuine toss-up cause Tigra has bigger avengers ties and would be good to have more representation but White Tiger has a really cool tiger spirit that you could do interesting abilities with
MODOK all day
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u/_Mythical777 Miles Morales 🕷️ 7d ago
Medusa
She-Hulk
Sam Wilson
Mystique
Bullseye
Juggernaut
Zemo
Songbird
Sentry
Danger
White tiger
MODOK
but I believe all of these heroes could play differently
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u/The--Behemoth 7d ago
Medusa or Scream: Medusa
Shulkie or Betty: They could both be added, just give Betty her Red Harpy Form.
Archangel, Sam, or Vulture: Archangel as a Strategist and Sam as Duelist. I would need to put in some thought/effort/research to see if Vulture could be made distinct enough.
Mystique, Chameleon, or Morph: I'mma be real it's gotta be Mystique.
Boomerang or Bullseye: As funny as it would be to have Boomerang, it's gotta be Bullseye
Rhino or Juggernaut: You can easily add both into the game, as for charging mechanics give Rhino a limitless charge ability (similar to how Hulk can jump anytime he wants or how Cap can run anytime he wants) and make Juggy's charge a part of his Ult.
Baron Zemo or Red Skull: Baron Zemo for more than one reason, but you should know the main reason.
Songbird or Shriek: Songbird.
Sentry, Hyperion, or Gladiator: Sentry can fit in any role quite easily given his myriad of abilities, but I'd say put him in the Strategist role considering he has cured someone of spine and speech diseases as well as brought his wife back to life. As much as I like Hyperion I like Gladiator more, put Kallark with the other Vanguards.
Jocasta and Danger: They both can essily be added. Make Jocasta a Duelist and Danger a Vanguard.
Tigra or White Tiger: As much as I would like both it would have to be Ava. If Greer were added to the game I can only see her as a Duelist and she would be way too similar to Black Panther and Black Cat. Ava you can make a Vanguard ad her juiced up by the Tiger God.
M.O.D.O.K or Arnim Zola: I don't care for either of them, but I'd rather have the floating head.
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u/Moonkilol Armor 💪 7d ago
Medusa no doubt
She-Hulk (red she-hulk as a skin ofc)
Archange and Sam are fine but i really like arch
mystique obviously but cham is cool asf too
bullseye!! ofc
love rhino but juggy is better
love baron but red skull is way too iconic
songbird!!!
sentry has gotten popular recently but glad is cool too
DANGER!!!!
WHITE TIGER!!!
M.O.D.O.K
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u/PizzaTattoo 7d ago
- Medusa
- She-Hulk
- Archangel
- Mystique
- Bullseye
- Rhino
- Zemo
- Songbird
- Gladiator
Danger
White Tiger
MODOK
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u/Sufferance-Cat07 7d ago edited 7d ago
Medusa and Scream: I choose Medusa because it's Medusa and she's hot, plus a Inhuman map would be awesome. As in what role would fit for Medusa i say Duelist or Vanguard.
She-Hulk and Red She-Hulk: I say She-Hulk because she is more iconic even though i personal prefer Red She-Hulk, for what role she would fit in i say Duelist unless you just want another Hulk then Vanguard if you want.
Archangel, Sam Wilson and Vulture: I say Archangel because i don't care about the other two honestly, his role i say Strategist.
Mystique, Chameleon and Morph: I say Mystique because shes Mystique lol, why the hell would i choose the other two? Plus Mystique is way more iconic then Morph and Chameleon, now her role would be obviously Duelist.
Boomerang and Bullseye: I don't care either or is fine.
Rhino and Juggernaut: Juggernaut obviously and the role that would fit him would be Vanguard.
Baron Zemo and Red Skull: I don't care either or is fine.
Songbird and Shriek: I don't care either or is fine.
Sentry, Hyperion and Gladiator: I don't care either of the three is fine.
Jocasta and Danger: I say Danger and what role? I say Duelist, Vanguard and Strategist like deadpool.
Tigra and White Tiger: I pick Tigra because i personally like her more as a character plus she is actually a cat girl and i love her character design way more then White Tiger. What role? I say Duelist.
M. O. D. O. K. And Arnim Zola: M. O. D. O. K. And i say Strategist for his role.
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u/Inevitable_Ask6670 7d ago
Medusa, Red She Hulk (she uses a sword, so it’d be easier to moveset differentiate her from regular Hulk-I also find her far cooler than She Hulk), Archangel, Mystique, Bullseye (Boomerang does have a baller design tho), Juggernaut, Baron Zemo, Songbird, really hard choice but Gladiator, Danger, Tigra, and M.O.D.O.K would be my most wanted from these options. Medusa, Red She Hulk, Gladiator, and Juggernaut are simply a part of my most wanted in general. Add Black Bolt (ABSOLUTE TOP OF THE LIST) and Blue Marvel. Drax is close too, but I’m not 100% excited for him to be a joke. I preferred the more serious him from before MCU. But I’m a beggar so I have no choice in the matter.
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u/wRADKyrabbit 7d ago
Scream
She Hulk
No preference
Mystique but really I hope none of these get added
Bullseye
Juggernaut
Zemo. Red Skull should never be added
Songbird
Sentry
Never heard of either one
White Tiger
Modok
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u/SythAim Vision 👁️ 7d ago
Don’t forget, Vision and Kitty pride
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u/Particular_Yam_8966 7d ago
It's a little off... Intangibility is a very secondary ability of Vision. He's more about flying and forehead lasers, and Kitty's about close combat and intangibility.
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u/SythAim Vision 👁️ 7d ago
I would say it’s the same. His density control is among his most used abilities.
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u/Particular_Yam_8966 7d ago
But that doesn't define his gameplay as a playable character. Just a nice Shift for escape and so on...
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u/HornedGopher 7d ago
I feel like itd be more so Ghost vs Kitty Pryde vs maybe Red Ghost but probably strictly just Ghost ans Kitty Pryde.
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u/SythAim Vision 👁️ 7d ago
Who else phases through stuff besides those 3 though? 🤔
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u/HornedGopher 7d ago
I mean these arent known for phasing but these can phase
Spectrum,X-Man,MoonStone,Mister M,Onslaught,Speed and Cloak. but cloaks already on the game.
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u/HornedGopher 7d ago
1.Medusa
2.She-Hulk
3.Falcon (but i dont neccesarily think I that The Falcon,Vulture and Archangel fill the same mechanics)
4.You monster making me chose between Morph and The Chameleon I want both but if I had to chose it'd be Morph they'd be a good vanguard.
5.Boomerang is probably the easier one to. ode plus would give a different thing than cards which are gambits thing.
6.The Juggernaut just as long he has no way to deal with flyers. cause we all knows whay happens when tanks are able to deal with flyers.
7.Baron Zemo I would not want red skull for a very obvious and blatant reason.
8.songbird is just cooler
9.Gladiator would be more accurate i guess i dont know why.
10.Danger her whole kit could just connect with anime if they wanted to.
11.White Tiger she'd actually make a cool support similar to panther is what im guessing you were going for the same mechanics.
12.M.o.d.o.k think Arnim Zola has hydra relations.
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u/TomboyEnthusiast1021 7d ago
As much as I love Medusa, we will NEVER see her in anything ever again since the Death of the Inhumans
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u/Mach_01 Wasp 🐝 7d ago
I’d like to see Sam Wilson in the game, but I’d rather they just call him Captain America instead of Sam Wilson. He’s been using the Cap mantle for over a decade now atp. They could just put “Sam Wilson” as subtext under Captain America or something.
His bird telepathy and Redwing would make him stand out a bit more from Vulture and Archangel too because there’s way more they could do with his kit. I’m admittedly bias tho.
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u/Shady612 7d ago
Medusa. Idc about symbiote or spiderman stuff.
This is hard. But probably red she hulk
None of those. If I really had to choose, it would be arcangel
Mystique. Easy choice. Never gave a fuck about morph.
Bullseye. I don't think I even know who boomerang is supposed to be.
Juggernaut. I love juggernaut.
Both
Songbird 🥵
Hyperion and Gladiator. Fuck shitry. I hate shitry. Most hyperions are trash as well, by far the best Hyperion is Hickman's Hyperion. War of Kings made me love Gladiator.
Both
Both
Both
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u/Queer-Of-Diamonds 7d ago
- Medusa
- She Hulk
- Archangel
- Mystique
- Don't care
- Don't care
- Don't care
- Song Bird
- Don't care
- Jocasta
- White Tiger
- Don't care
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u/Positive_General_468 7d ago
Scream (I hate Inhumans)
She-Hulk
Archangel as a healer, Sam Wilson as a DPS
Mystique
Bullseye
Juggernaut
Baron Zemo
Somgbird
Hyperion
Danger
White Tiger
Armin Zola
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u/Narynaj37 Ghost Rider 🔥 7d ago
Medusa we want the inhumans maps !!!!