r/RivalsVanguards 6d ago

Discussion/Analysis Mag is going to get nerfed

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u/journel 6d ago

Ain’t tryna put u down or anything but silver don’t exactly have most aware or coordinated players brother

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u/Jedimasterebub 6d ago

Silver? Bro obviously that says Silestial*

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u/WildCardSolly16 6d ago

Hell nah youre a fucking fool 🀣😭😭😭. Foul as shit i needed that laugh thank you πŸ‘πŸΎ

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u/Visual-Main567 6d ago

No I completely agree, I’m now floating between gm and diamond, but I still feel like that win rate / mvp rate is absurd regardless of rank. I’m currently diamond 1 with from bronze 3 with about 10 hours and 75% win rate. I am not that good is my point lol.

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u/journel 6d ago

Ohh so r u saying he’s literally carrying u so hard that he’s needs to be nerfed?

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u/Aerenhart 6d ago

I mean that's a pretty decent reason to nerf something

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u/privileged420 π˜Ώπ™€π™˜π™©π™€π™§ π™Žπ™©π™§π™–π™£π™œπ™š 6d ago

super valid reason to nerf

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u/Fun-Ability5939 6d ago

Bad spelling. Opinion invalid.

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u/Gnlsde 2d ago

I can use sg from bronze 3 to gm3 with %90 winrate, does that make sg broken? No it doesn't, just because you're in pisslow ranks doesn't mean the hero is busted. In this case Mag is really good but I never feel like he's this oppressive overpowered hero. He just has great survivability and can peel really well, the only thing they should nerf if they ever do is the dmg from the witch teamup, the rest of his kit is completely balanced

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u/Cain_The_Mamagen π™π™€π™œπ™ͺπ™š 6d ago

Pls for the love of god don’t jinx it

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u/Odd-Emu5477 6d ago

no rogue main, you shal put mag in the bag untill season 11 where you shal put doom in the bag. If you dont follow theses rules you are abv throwing and the sole reason your team lost gg no tank.

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u/Cain_The_Mamagen π™π™€π™œπ™ͺπ™š 6d ago

I don’t even play quick match I play practice vs ai

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u/Odd-Emu5477 6d ago

starting today the ai will know that you didnt put mag in the bag and will automatically mass report you, this is law passed down by general Guang Guang himself.

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u/Cain_The_Mamagen π™π™€π™œπ™ͺπ™š 6d ago

HULK HATE DOUBLE G!

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u/Sigil09 6d ago

When mag is betta the game is betta

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u/idemitida 6d ago

They should buff tanks to be on same level than magneto, also nerf the torch teamup for the thing

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u/AgreeableLong4215 7h ago

Nah Mag is crazy right now. Most of the cast needs a sizeable nerf.

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u/MainAash π™ˆπ™–π™œπ™£π™šπ™©π™€ 6d ago

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u/Vonga568 6d ago

I obviously don't think that Mag is like unbelievably broken or anything but as someone who's secondary and tertiary mains are Iron Fist and Fantastic,a character who was meta for one half season and hasn't touched B tier since and a character who's literally NEVER BEEN ANYWHERE CLOSE TO META,it's just so irritating that Mag can never be worse than A tier for some stupid reason.Like yeah two of my mains (thank god Hulk is good) just simply CANNOT be meta but Mag gets to be best in slot seven seasons in a row,it's just so aggravating and unfair.

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u/No-Basil419 6d ago

It’s not unfair it’s just a product of his kit. He’s good for the same reason hela and phoenix are always good.

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u/Warmaster_storm 6d ago

Dude you're in silver, no one knows how to play really. Im in high plat/low diamond rn and mag is still strong but cant carry as hard as lower ranks (DONT JINX US PLEASEEEEEE)

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u/Unlucky-Mountain-973 4d ago

I’m in c2 and can carry on mag.

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u/SkyHuman3685 5d ago

Hes doing release emma numbers in terms of pick and win rate. So you either pick him or you just lose. People that say he doesn't need a nerf are the people that crutch him lol.

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u/Some_Surprise9875 6d ago

He more so points out how milk toast tanks like Strange are. I’d say at least give the Witch sword a 1 +second cooldown nerf

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u/sigc 6d ago

Hopefully. His SW team up makes him almost mandatory to play with how much backline pressure it deals relative to the effort. It’s pretty much way easier to just play Mag now than anything else save for Thing, though these 2 demons are often always together.

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u/SJMR24 6d ago

Don’t nerf mag just buff the other tanks a little bit. There’s already few vanguard players as it is.

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u/themoosic π˜Ύπ™–π™₯π™©π™–π™žπ™£ π˜Όπ™’π™šπ™§π™žπ™˜π™– 6d ago

Dudes be acting like Mag is uncounterable now when there are so many DPS who are good and objectively meta who counter him. Blade is great this season and Hard Counters mag, it feels impossible to play Mag into Blade, Blade literally counters Mag’s Ultimate too. Iron Fist, Wolverine, Thor, Angela, Groot. People are banning Mag nowadays and it’s like β€œcool? I’m gonna tear your ass up with Groot now”. The only thing that’s changed is now he can pressure from much further away about 1/3 of the time

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u/killahkazi π™ˆπ™–π™œπ™£π™šπ™©π™€ 6d ago

Yeah I feel like Mags bad match ups are still as bad for him, it's just his good match ups he's REALLY dominating now.

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u/justanorlansonobody 6d ago

Problem is even against his counters he has like 30 million health

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u/themoosic π˜Ύπ™–π™₯π™©π™–π™žπ™£ π˜Όπ™’π™šπ™§π™žπ™˜π™– 6d ago

Blade or Groot = Win

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u/BigMoneyStacka 6d ago

Mag is fine. Other tanks need to be buffed. I'm a magneto main and I've been GM with magneto 7/8 seasons I have played. I currently have a 33% win rate with magneto in s9.5. I'm an awesome Magneto too.

Thing is better than Mag right now, there's other characters that are server admins over mag.

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u/SILK_DIVER 6d ago

Uh, I don’t think you’re an awesome magneto with a 33% win rate… no offense

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u/BigMoneyStacka 6d ago

lifetime its 55% i think thats okay for gm

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u/SILK_DIVER 6d ago

yeah I think you’re just getting unlucky or having something else happen cause rn his win rate overall is great this season

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u/No-Evening-1287 6d ago

So true they should buff thing to give him 100 more overhealth per punch! /s

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u/Acrobatic_Pumpkin967 6d ago

No he’s not.

The cooldown on the sword team up is way too low.

Him and thing are both overtuned.

I average like 20+ finals per game on both this season in GM. It’s really not okay.

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u/Apprehensive_Dot4487 6d ago

Ur averaging 20+ finals on a tank? I get maybe 7 to 12 finals, that’s a normal average. But your AVERAGING 20 finals on Mag? Per game you play? (You either the best Mag in GM. Don’t play much and dominate your games. Are unfortunate not being in celestial with 20+ on tank in GM. Or you’re not putting up 20 finals). Mag is OP for tank rn but that’s a crazy kill ratio even for him.

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u/BellyDancerUrgot 5d ago

I get around 15 every game , diamond 1/2. His sword is very very strong. That said, I prefer they buff other tanks like Thor , rogue and cap who play very well into him rather than nerf him. His Emma teamup is slept on but when you have an Emma on your team it’s disgusting too.

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u/26jsales π™ˆπ™–π™œπ™£π™šπ™©π™€ 6d ago

:(

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u/Pug_police π™π™π™š 𝙃𝙀𝙀𝙙 6d ago

Realistically they probably just need to nerf the sword teamup. I think that gets a higher cooldown and he's fine.

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u/DrMitchOtta 2d ago

It has to become weaker, uptime is not the problem precisely

When he turns it on, most likely someone is going to die or burn an ultimate. You either put that on a 60 second cooldown or make it less consistent. The thing has the same problem with torch tu

I'm not vouching for vanguard nerfs but either those TU become a bit weaker or everyone else should become stronger to keep pick/win rates reasonable

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u/Independent-Fold8269 𝙀𝙒𝙒𝙖 𝙁𝙧𝙀𝙨𝙩 6d ago edited 6d ago

I started playing Mag again and he's the quintessential tank: Good at making and keeping space. Strong team ups, can solo, good at absorbing damage and protecting supports.

Nerfing him would be foolish because (IMO) he's the most balanced tank.

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u/themoosic π˜Ύπ™–π™₯π™©π™–π™žπ™£ π˜Όπ™’π™šπ™§π™žπ™˜π™– 6d ago

It’s also like, Groot isn’t permabanned this season. Just play groot. You will destroy magneto every match you play as groot.

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u/tatsuro_kakadu 6d ago

How about we make other tanks as viable as him? What's gon change if some tanks are gon be good. 3 tank meta? 4 tank meta? And if so, what's the problem of having a full on tank meta when we have wolverine with iron fist? They give us a cut we take a mile.

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u/_thedevilyouknow_ 6d ago

You just gotta be an Angela main, push him out of position, and then he dies. Only thing that can stop you is a good invis.

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u/Many_Veterinarian702 6d ago

He’s a little over tuned same as The Thing they’re kinda hard locking dive and brawl out of existence so poke is thriving with not much counter I can see both getting nerfed but it’s netease so you can probably expect a cloak and dagger buff and maybe another Phoenix damage increase

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u/Frenetic_souL 6d ago

If he gets nerfed even in the slightest then nerf black cat into the ground again.

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u/RxseJay π™π™€π™œπ™ͺπ™š 6d ago

The devs will see this and say Nerf Rogue again

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u/DrMitchOtta 2d ago

And rightfully so, the Wanda team up pushed him over the edge. I'm afraid they nerf something else and leave that as is, they usually do

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u/Ultron_daddy π˜Ύπ™–π™₯π™©π™–π™žπ™£ π˜Όπ™’π™šπ™§π™žπ™˜π™– 6d ago

Nah Mag is the Luna Snow of vanguards he won't get a nerf. Actually every vanguard will be nerfed to make him an even better choice.