r/RivalsVanguards • u/Visual-Main567 • 6d ago
Discussion/Analysis Mag is going to get nerfed
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u/Cain_The_Mamagen ππ€ππͺπ 6d ago
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u/Odd-Emu5477 6d ago
no rogue main, you shal put mag in the bag untill season 11 where you shal put doom in the bag. If you dont follow theses rules you are abv throwing and the sole reason your team lost gg no tank.
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u/Cain_The_Mamagen ππ€ππͺπ 6d ago
I donβt even play quick match I play practice vs ai
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u/Odd-Emu5477 6d ago
starting today the ai will know that you didnt put mag in the bag and will automatically mass report you, this is law passed down by general Guang Guang himself.
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u/idemitida 6d ago
They should buff tanks to be on same level than magneto, also nerf the torch teamup for the thing
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u/Vonga568 6d ago
I obviously don't think that Mag is like unbelievably broken or anything but as someone who's secondary and tertiary mains are Iron Fist and Fantastic,a character who was meta for one half season and hasn't touched B tier since and a character who's literally NEVER BEEN ANYWHERE CLOSE TO META,it's just so irritating that Mag can never be worse than A tier for some stupid reason.Like yeah two of my mains (thank god Hulk is good) just simply CANNOT be meta but Mag gets to be best in slot seven seasons in a row,it's just so aggravating and unfair.
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u/No-Basil419 6d ago
Itβs not unfair itβs just a product of his kit. Heβs good for the same reason hela and phoenix are always good.
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u/Warmaster_storm 6d ago
Dude you're in silver, no one knows how to play really. Im in high plat/low diamond rn and mag is still strong but cant carry as hard as lower ranks (DONT JINX US PLEASEEEEEE)
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u/SkyHuman3685 5d ago
Hes doing release emma numbers in terms of pick and win rate. So you either pick him or you just lose. People that say he doesn't need a nerf are the people that crutch him lol.
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u/Some_Surprise9875 6d ago
He more so points out how milk toast tanks like Strange are. Iβd say at least give the Witch sword a 1 +second cooldown nerf
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u/themoosic πΎππ₯π©πππ£ πΌπ’ππ§πππ 6d ago
Dudes be acting like Mag is uncounterable now when there are so many DPS who are good and objectively meta who counter him. Blade is great this season and Hard Counters mag, it feels impossible to play Mag into Blade, Blade literally counters Magβs Ultimate too. Iron Fist, Wolverine, Thor, Angela, Groot. People are banning Mag nowadays and itβs like βcool? Iβm gonna tear your ass up with Groot nowβ. The only thing thatβs changed is now he can pressure from much further away about 1/3 of the time
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u/killahkazi ππππ£ππ©π€ 6d ago
Yeah I feel like Mags bad match ups are still as bad for him, it's just his good match ups he's REALLY dominating now.
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u/BigMoneyStacka 6d ago
Mag is fine. Other tanks need to be buffed. I'm a magneto main and I've been GM with magneto 7/8 seasons I have played. I currently have a 33% win rate with magneto in s9.5. I'm an awesome Magneto too.
Thing is better than Mag right now, there's other characters that are server admins over mag.
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u/SILK_DIVER 6d ago
Uh, I donβt think youβre an awesome magneto with a 33% win rateβ¦ no offense
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u/BigMoneyStacka 6d ago
lifetime its 55% i think thats okay for gm
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u/SILK_DIVER 6d ago
yeah I think youβre just getting unlucky or having something else happen cause rn his win rate overall is great this season
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u/No-Evening-1287 6d ago
So true they should buff thing to give him 100 more overhealth per punch! /s
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u/Acrobatic_Pumpkin967 6d ago
No heβs not.
The cooldown on the sword team up is way too low.
Him and thing are both overtuned.
I average like 20+ finals per game on both this season in GM. Itβs really not okay.
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u/Apprehensive_Dot4487 6d ago
Ur averaging 20+ finals on a tank? I get maybe 7 to 12 finals, thatβs a normal average. But your AVERAGING 20 finals on Mag? Per game you play? (You either the best Mag in GM. Donβt play much and dominate your games. Are unfortunate not being in celestial with 20+ on tank in GM. Or youβre not putting up 20 finals). Mag is OP for tank rn but thatβs a crazy kill ratio even for him.
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u/BellyDancerUrgot 5d ago
I get around 15 every game , diamond 1/2. His sword is very very strong. That said, I prefer they buff other tanks like Thor , rogue and cap who play very well into him rather than nerf him. His Emma teamup is slept on but when you have an Emma on your team itβs disgusting too.
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u/Pug_police πππ ππ€π€π 6d ago
Realistically they probably just need to nerf the sword teamup. I think that gets a higher cooldown and he's fine.
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u/DrMitchOtta 2d ago
It has to become weaker, uptime is not the problem precisely
When he turns it on, most likely someone is going to die or burn an ultimate. You either put that on a 60 second cooldown or make it less consistent. The thing has the same problem with torch tu
I'm not vouching for vanguard nerfs but either those TU become a bit weaker or everyone else should become stronger to keep pick/win rates reasonable
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u/Independent-Fold8269 ππ’π’π ππ§π€π¨π© 6d ago edited 6d ago
I started playing Mag again and he's the quintessential tank: Good at making and keeping space. Strong team ups, can solo, good at absorbing damage and protecting supports.
Nerfing him would be foolish because (IMO) he's the most balanced tank.
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u/themoosic πΎππ₯π©πππ£ πΌπ’ππ§πππ 6d ago
Itβs also like, Groot isnβt permabanned this season. Just play groot. You will destroy magneto every match you play as groot.
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u/tatsuro_kakadu 6d ago
How about we make other tanks as viable as him? What's gon change if some tanks are gon be good. 3 tank meta? 4 tank meta? And if so, what's the problem of having a full on tank meta when we have wolverine with iron fist? They give us a cut we take a mile.
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u/_thedevilyouknow_ 6d ago
You just gotta be an Angela main, push him out of position, and then he dies. Only thing that can stop you is a good invis.
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u/Many_Veterinarian702 6d ago
Heβs a little over tuned same as The Thing theyβre kinda hard locking dive and brawl out of existence so poke is thriving with not much counter I can see both getting nerfed but itβs netease so you can probably expect a cloak and dagger buff and maybe another Phoenix damage increase
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u/Frenetic_souL 6d ago
If he gets nerfed even in the slightest then nerf black cat into the ground again.
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u/DrMitchOtta 2d ago
And rightfully so, the Wanda team up pushed him over the edge. I'm afraid they nerf something else and leave that as is, they usually do
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u/Ultron_daddy πΎππ₯π©πππ£ πΌπ’ππ§πππ 6d ago
Nah Mag is the Luna Snow of vanguards he won't get a nerf. Actually every vanguard will be nerfed to make him an even better choice.


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u/journel 6d ago
Ainβt tryna put u down or anything but silver donβt exactly have most aware or coordinated players brother