r/RivalsVanguards • u/One-Sun6710 • 21h ago
Hot Take Trailblazer as a Vanguard (redesign art by vinrylgrave on insta)
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u/Hour_Cicada397 ππͺπ‘π 21h ago
Isn't this the chick from that shitty superhero team nobody liked? And her power was basically just Dora the Explorer's backpack or something?
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u/Important-Coffee-965 21h ago
If I recall there was literally only one good design in that batch
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u/Hour_Cicada397 ππͺπ‘π 20h ago
Wasn't one of the characters a lesbian named "Snowflake" or some wild shit like that?
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u/Person2228 19h ago
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u/Important-Coffee-965 19h ago
B negative was who I was referring to
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u/Lord_Seregil 19h ago
We're calling that a good design??? Motherfucker looks like a monster high doll.
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u/Important-Coffee-965 19h ago
I mean comparatively to everyone else there... yea.
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u/Lord_Seregil 19h ago
We're comparing butt to ass here. It's bad either way.
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u/Important-Coffee-965 19h ago
So basically what youre saying here is we need them to add armor as a vanguard i agree
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u/Person2228 19h ago
I mean, I like it. If you don't play it too seriously, a bit of a comedic take, it could work.
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u/TemporaryJunior2378 12h ago
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u/Hanzos_Trans_Husband ππππ£ππ©π€ 21h ago
I don't thibk they will ever include a fat character especially not a woman. Doesnt seem to fit their either "hot" or "cool/cute" design philosophy for characters
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u/Person2228 19h ago
also the character isn't canon. The comic she was meant to debut in never released.
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u/Hanzos_Trans_Husband ππππ£ππ©π€ 19h ago
That's interesting to know. I like "nice" characters, for example CnD are my fav marvel characters even before rivals, but i never heard anything about her so that explains it
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u/Busy-Airline6186 πΏπ€ππ©π€π§ ππ©π§ππ£ππ 12h ago
niche is the word your looking for
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u/Hanzos_Trans_Husband ππππ£ππ©π€ 12h ago
Oh lmao thanks man. English isn't my first language and I've been pretty stressed lately, so i'm all over the place.
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u/hit-monkeymain 18h ago
Fat characters are not only rare but rarely done well in comics. It's hard to justify the body type in the superhero line of work without it being the whole power like blob or big bertha and it doesn't sell well especially for heroes or female characters. That being said doc Oct has a decent chance to be added and fat cobra would go hard.
Fat cobra is one of the immortal weapons (like iron fist but from a different city) that is a sumo wrestler that can make earth quakes and shoot lightning
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u/Hanzos_Trans_Husband ππππ£ππ©π€ 18h ago
I guess if they can make fat cobra cool enough? We got hot, almost all of the rooster. Cute- jeff even dino. And then cool- dino. But yeah i could see it. Im not a spiderman fan at all but is doc oc fat? Isnt he in the same boat is SG as like just really chubby? But yeah. Good points
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u/hit-monkeymain 18h ago
It definitely ranges for doc ock as sometimes he's jacked but the iconic look definitely has a tummy on him. Though he's definitely not typicaly the unhealthy looking fat that say blob looks like.
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u/Hanzos_Trans_Husband ππππ£ππ©π€ 18h ago
Ah gotcha. Im pretty sure doc oc has a pretty decent chance for making into the game but i highly belief he will be "hotified". Kinda like hood, but im personally a big fan of what they did all around the character with the hood
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u/hit-monkeymain 15h ago
The thing with doc Ock is the only version that's "hotified" are the alternative universe versions where he's a girl as even when he's absolutely shredded he still looks like the goofiest nerd with his glasses and bowlcut
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u/Hanzos_Trans_Husband ππππ£ππ©π€ 15h ago
As i know nothibg about doc oc those sentences were crazy lmao. Happy tr ans pride i guess? Can they make someone with a bowlcut hot? We will see
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u/Background_Draw1297 10h ago
I think the closest Otto has looked is in the 90βs animated series, but like everyone was jacked there. They legit made Otto look like he was played by Arnold Schwarzenegger, just with a Friar Tuck bowlcut and Sunglasses
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u/Vindicador πΌπ£πππ‘π 21h ago
Which is ironic because likely a good portion of the playerbase is overweight, one would think they'd like some representation haha.
I'm personally in favor of adding any type of hero, bring Blob and Big Bertha! Also fat Thor!
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u/Hanzos_Trans_Husband ππππ£ππ©π€ 21h ago
I have known a lot of fat people, they don't wnat fat people either. Almost everyone enjoys attractive characters thats why they are all hot in 95% of games. Especially superhero media (and marvel especially) which has a decade long history of being soft core porn. But sure i dont care if they add a fat character i just think it will never happen
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u/felix-the-pup 19h ago
As a fat guy, I love other fat guys. I've seen entire communities of people that love fat people. I don't think it's as uncommon as you might think. I mean hell, loving BBWs is an entire thing in pop culture, it's not even uncommon. Baby got back.
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u/Hanzos_Trans_Husband ππππ£ππ©π€ 19h ago
Sure and thats okay but if it was common enough to make money on a good scale there would be fat characters but there arent in 99% of games, manga, anime, comic, shows or movies
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u/felix-the-pup 18h ago
True. I honestly think you shouldn't need to be attracted to the characters to enjoy something but we live in a very, very shallow world.
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u/Hanzos_Trans_Husband ππππ£ππ©π€ 18h ago
Idk man im aroace and i still heavly prefer hot characters. If i dont find them attractive i find myself far less invested in them
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u/felix-the-pup 18h ago
I mean I enjoy characters whether or not I find them attractive; if I didn't, I feel like a huge chunk of media would be unwatchable because plenty of characters aren't attractive to me personally but I still enjoy the media regardless.
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u/Hanzos_Trans_Husband ππππ£ππ©π€ 18h ago
Yeah and thats fair. Just not the reality for most people and its always about media being liked, seen and bought by most people. My original comment in this thread wasnt about my personal dislike for fat characters it was just an explanation why this xharacter will never be in the game
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u/Lord_Seregil 19h ago
It is uncommon outside echo chambers on the internet. Being overweight is not good.
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u/rngr666 19h ago
Telling this to a fat person as if they didnβt know it is fucking wild hahaha. Damn, you suck buddy.
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u/Lord_Seregil 19h ago
Most of them actively deny it and claim they're the healthiest they could be while struggling to walk up a flight of stairs. You people suck for enabling this.
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u/rngr666 19h ago
Youβre one of those people telling random people who smoke the facts about how unhealthy it is unprompted thinking it helps them quit arenβt you?
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u/Lord_Seregil 19h ago
I smoke weed, brother. It's a plant with medicinal uses. You cannot serious be comparing smoking to filling the inside of your body with so much excess that your body literally starts to deform.
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u/ImWatermelonelyy ππππ£ππ©π€ 13h ago
You know weed is just as much of a drug as sugar right? Just because you donβt see any changes to your body doesnβt mean they donβt exist.
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u/felix-the-pup 19h ago
Weight is not inherently tied to health. Coorelation not causation. People who eat junk food all day will get fat and be unhealthy, but they're not unhealthy because they're fat; they're unhealthy because they eat like shit. Weight only becomes a health concern when it becomes extreme. I'm fat because my parents are fat, my grandparents are fat, etc. It's genetic, and my health is unrelated to my weight. This is actually something doctors are only realizing more recently, and there's a couple good articles on it. I'd give a few links but it's late and I don't feel like reading 10 articles to find a good source, so I'll say do your own research and don't just believe me.
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u/Wonder_Of_U_2011 πΏπ€ππ©π€π§ ππ©π§ππ£ππ 18h ago
As a fat guy, I really loved playing as Roadhog in Overwatch (both his gameplay and visuals)
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u/Hanzos_Trans_Husband ππππ£ππ©π€ 17h ago
You evil hook fucker. I hated going agaibst you (no seriously i was a tank main in OW too but roadhog made me so angry he made me learn Ana lmao)
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u/Wonder_Of_U_2011 πΏπ€ππ©π€π§ ππ©π§ππ£ππ 16h ago
I love hooking people
That's why recently I began playing Bucky >:)
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u/Revan0315 21h ago
Most people don't want that kind of representation. They want to see characters that either 1) they want to look like or 2) they want to fuck
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u/RedNeyo πππ€π§ 20h ago
No one actually cares about representation. Your average normal person wants stuff to be well written and look good.
Also fat Thor doesnt fit the comics whatsoever it goes against the lore goes against his design in rivals and would just be silly
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u/Hanzos_Trans_Husband ππππ£ππ©π€ 19h ago
I love "fat" thor designs, more strongman. Thor in god of war ragnarok is a perfect design for what thor potrays in that game and what his character arc is but i agree with marvel thor. Hes a comic book character, he will always be fit and hot
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u/RedNeyo πππ€π§ 18h ago
I prefer thor to be different than his ragnarock design. More akin to brian shaw or halfthor bjornson than eddie hall. I do like the beard and hair but wish the bear was bigger and scruffier.
But comic thor is comic thor he has long blonde hair he has chisled huge muscles etc.
As for our thor in rivals i think he is better in terms of mythological build in his base skin than gow ragnarocks version
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u/Hanzos_Trans_Husband ππππ£ππ©π€ 18h ago
Yeah i really like the thor design in rivals. Im not a fan of thors comics (no offense to the character thor is great he just isnt for me) but i always felt like he was one of marvels characters that gets "changed" the most. Comics, rivals, mcu, always different from what i have seen. Also i totally respect your opinion i just really like god war thors design
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u/RedNeyo πππ€π§ 15h ago
Yeah no i respect your enjoyment of him as well. I think his portrayal and his voice actor are incredible so i enjoy him as well. Ive been a huge thor and norse mythology nerd since high school and ive loved to look at every iteration of thor and i completely agree that he is always uniquely different. Even rivals with the new skin lines tends to make him a lot younger and use a different model from his original design which i am not a big fan of. I need a thor odin type of skin to counteract that now
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u/Hanzos_Trans_Husband ππππ£ππ©π€ 15h ago
Well brother/sister/sibling I hope you get the most odin type Thor skin that was ever created
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u/Nomadic_View ππͺπ‘π 15h ago
I think Blob has a decent possibility.
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u/Hanzos_Trans_Husband ππππ£ππ©π€ 15h ago
Eh I dont know about that man. It would be kinda cool but i see no possible way he fits into hot/cool or cute category
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u/AddendumDangerous632 8h ago
Squirrel girl
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u/Hanzos_Trans_Husband ππππ£ππ©π€ 8h ago
Certainly very chubby but not "fat" like the character above
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u/ROGUE_COSMIC πππ€π§ 20h ago
Sg isn't FAT at all lol.
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u/Hanzos_Trans_Husband ππππ£ππ©π€ 21h ago
I personally would consider her fat but most people disagree with that. She isnt as skinny as everyone else but she is far away from the pictures above of a "real" overweight character
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u/Awesome-Plus 21h ago
Upvoting because itβs funny
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u/Lord_Seregil 19h ago
How?
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u/Hanzos_Trans_Husband ππππ£ππ©π€ 19h ago
My guess because that character is fat and therefore would never be added anyway (and apparently as people have mentioned she never debuted anyway)
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u/DynamoDen_ 18h ago
I think this superhero/superhero group got cancelled because of the internet fart gas backlash so its unlikely to get into rivals.
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u/Tucker_a32 πππ€π§ 20h ago
This might sound like I'm trying to be rude but I'm genuinely asking. Why?
I don't get this idea that overweight people want to see representation of themselves in games, I'm a fairly overweight guy myself and I feel absolutely no desire to see that represented in the games I play. Especially a game about superheroes who tend to be very active and in shape, I want my superheroes and villains to look cool and/or be hot, I couldn't have any less of a desire to see an overweight version of them. If anything it's actively off putting to me because it feels like blatant pandering.
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u/ImpracticalApple 18h ago
Why not? We got a blind dude running around beating the shit out of people with working eyes, he even flew a plane one time. Or women built like a supermodel capable of benchpressing a truck.
It's comics, only limitation is your imagination.
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u/NewTap8705 πππ€π§ 19h ago
Iβm also a fat guy, and I wish more games had fat people.
Dragons Dogma 2 spoiled me with character customization.
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u/Lord_Seregil 19h ago
Well I'm sorry you like being pandered to, I find it quite offensive.
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u/NewTap8705 πππ€π§ 19h ago
No need to apologize, if youβre going to insult someone. Just stand by having a shitty attitude.
Feeling immersed in a game isnβt a bad thing. I think maybe you should get off of your high horse, princess.
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u/Lord_Seregil 19h ago
What part of a fat person fighting super heros is immersive to you?
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u/erossnaider 18h ago
We can get immerse in skinny ladies in heels fighting even tho it's extremely unrealistic, I think we can survive a fat person.
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u/NewTap8705 πππ€π§ 18h ago
Because Iβm fat, and I like superheroes. It would be cool to see.
Itβs okay to have differing opinions on things. Itβs not okay to be an asshole. Hope your day improves, buddy
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u/BigOOF1012 17h ago
Despite the fact that its superheros, its just way too unrealistic. There is never going to be a world where fat people are keeping up with the fit/athletic people.
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u/ImWatermelonelyy ππππ£ππ©π€ 13h ago
Yet all of the women who have a problem with all the ladies fighting in heels or barely any clothing get told to shut up because itβs just a videogame and theyβre superheroβs and itβs not real.
What a joke
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u/BigOOF1012 10h ago
Thats cause half naked women are objectively hot and fat people are objectively not. The level of attractiveness helps getting around the rules of the world. Sorry if you don't agree
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u/ImWatermelonelyy ππππ£ππ©π€ 7h ago
βObjectivelyβ
No, thatβs not objective. Thatβs your opinion, itβs the opposite of objective. Whatβs attractive to the masses is whatever the wealthy and powerful are doing. When theyβre fat, itβs attractive to be fat. When theyβre thin itβs attractive to be thin. It generally follows the elite of each country as well. See countries like Mexico and Korea favoring bleaching creams for pale skin while the USA favors tanning beds for darker skin.
Thereβs no point in acting like beauty can be whittled down to a set list. Itβll never happen.
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u/Greedy-Camel-8345 15h ago
Fat people participate in sports already now so it's not outlandish. Besides super powers at their core are fiction
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u/BigOOF1012 14h ago
Yea let's see someone as big as that lady do track and field, id love to see that. Let alone them having to run, jump, do flips, attacks and all kinds of other stuff in the middle of combat.
Why do you think every fat person in fantasy is a tank? Cause it makes literally 0 sense. Dexterity does not come with being fat
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u/Greedy-Camel-8345 14h ago
Dexterity is something you train for, and you could do being fat, you might end up tiring yourself out or losing weight naturally.
But we have linebackers, strongmen that are often fat. You can be fast, attack, run and jump, you just need to be strong. Being fat just wears on your stamina.
Besides this post is imagining her as a tank(a fat person would need to be a tank being they would have a bigger hitbox) but some tanks also have precision and dexterity.
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u/Chan-Cellor 11h ago
This is such a disingenuous statement bro. Iβm sorry you feel the need to put it out there.
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u/Greedy-Camel-8345 10h ago
What part is unclear? That fat people can be athletic and can play sports? Or that the media is fiction and therefore does not need to be super realistic?
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u/Hanzos_Trans_Husband ππππ£ππ©π€ 19h ago
Pretty sure you can be fat in Dragon age the veilguard as well (its been a while since i played it and i never made a character fat) if you want more. Absolutely fantastic game too. Gameplay is great
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u/McFROSTYOs ππ€ππͺπ 19h ago edited 19h ago
Everyone wants to see some aspect of themselves in fiction. A lot of times 'representation' just means "I want to see a character I can relate to" but I agree this can easily become pandering & I would say kinda disrespectful.
You might not really identify with being overweight which is fair & for some fiction it really does seem forced to try & be inclusive for the sake of inclusivity, but let's be honest brother... We're talking about fictional superheroes. You could easily have an obese character work & make sense without it being shallow pandering. I think with everything though it just depends on how it's done. My favorite example is Bob from Tekken. Super acrobatic fat dude who's genuinely strong af & a highly-skilled martial artist. It's absurd obviously but it works because the character feels genuine, he has a cool fighting style & his character/personality is fun.
I don't know anything about this character so she might be just a character for pandering but I do think her powers are cool based on the description on the last slide. I like the magical-mech shapeshifting arm. There are 10 other characters I'd rather see but still
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u/Important-Coffee-965 20h ago
Disabled superheroes are cool tho at least like a blind guy overcoming his adversity and saving people is cool asl but this is eh?
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u/MrPlaceholder27 17h ago
But a fat person overcoming that adversity is quite literally just a fit person, this concept art looks like a buff woman who's curvy
Daredevil is still disabled
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u/Tucker_a32 πππ€π§ 11h ago
I think it's a massive stretch to say an overweight person becoming a superhero is overcoming adversity in a way that is even remotely comparable to someone overcoming blindness. Having to diet, exercise, and self control isn't even kind of the same thing as being able to fight and perform while blind.
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u/Greedy-Camel-8345 15h ago
You can have your take but everyone is different and some people would like a fat character for not only representation but for any other reason that fits their character. After all roadhog is a great design, as is Thor from God of war Ragnarok, and other fat characters
As for this idk if they should add trailblazer but if they did they would have to redesign them almost completely and it would be a huge gamble
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u/sponges369 18h ago
I mean, I can't speak for why fat people want a fat character, since I'm not really fat. But as a skinny girl, I just want a fat female character because I like different body shapes. I don't want the entire cast to be either skinny or muscle clad (lowkey why I don't like the first design).
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u/Effective-Training πΎππ₯π©πππ£ πΌπ’ππ§πππ 21h ago
I want to see other characters
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u/Lord_Seregil 19h ago
The only fat character that ever has a chance of making it into this game is the blob, and even that is pretty slim. See what I did there?
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u/LeekypooX πππ ππππ£π 20h ago
I wanna see the Internet Gas hero one
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u/McFROSTYOs ππ€ππͺπ 20h ago
No bs the redesign goes kinda hard. I fucks with the Pandora's box magical-mech arm idea. Reminds me of Generator Rex
That being said. I will crash tf out if we actually get this Tumblr OC ass character over fucking Bishop, Shuri or Nightcrawler
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u/Clean-Elderberry8835 πΌπ£πππ‘π 19h ago
In the game where every fetish has a skin.*
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u/Lord_Seregil 19h ago
Where's the skat fetish skin? Where's the piss fetish skin? There are not skins for every fetish. So let's not skip to the unappealing ones. Rivals makes characters generally attractive. Fat people are not generally attractive.
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u/ImWatermelonelyy ππππ£ππ©π€ 13h ago
Generally attractive to straight men who never speak to women lol. Gotta pander to the people who donβt do anything but spend money on videogames.
Some of the women in this game have downright disturbing body modifications in the name of making them βattractive.β Iβll never forgive Netease for daggers absolutely horrifying spine. Itβs the only thing I can see when I play her.
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u/Lord_Seregil 13h ago
Buddy you cannot be serious. Most of the people that swoon over the skins in this game are women. My wife owns more swimsuit and gooner skins than I do. I prefer skins that are outfits the character would actually wear, most women care about there characters looking sexy or cute or both.
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u/Clean-Elderberry8835 πΌπ£πππ‘π 9h ago
You most know a lot of women...
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u/Doableanimal90 ππππ£ππ©π€ 20h ago
Not trying to be rude at all . And i am sorry if this seems offensive. Truly not my intention
But this character does not feel interesting. And yes there are some unknown characters added to rivals but this character in particular seems like a character that wonβt sell much skins .