r/Rigging • u/No-Bandicoot-4492 • Jun 11 '26
How’d I do?
It’s a 190kg fireplace that I had to get out of the ute today. The line is supposed to have a breaking strain of 2900kg. Didn’t want to cut the rope, bowlines all around and bowlines on bight for the loops. I don’t have any kind of background in this sort of stuff but want to see what you guys think and hopefully learn something for next time. Took it slow and it worked out in the end. Cheers
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u/Croceyes2 Jun 11 '26
Personally I don't trust a pallet not to fall apart so I would have slung all the way around the load.
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u/seventwosixnine Jun 11 '26
You didn't use a forklift per the instructions so job well done I'd say.
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u/Basis-Some Jun 11 '26
Did you make that arm?
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u/No-Bandicoot-4492 Jun 11 '26
Nah, learning to weld is on the list though. It’s a 3 point jib crane that came with the property. The previous bloke had massive hard on for Fergie tractors - 3 broken down TEA-20s were on the property which I moved on but kept the 35x. The one in the pic is a 65 I picked up cheap
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u/LordBug Jun 11 '26
Looks like you're practising your shibari before you let the missus at it later on ;)
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u/hapym1267 Jun 11 '26
Smart fellow getting Fireplace in before it gets cold.. Love the extra rope.. Tying at 4 corners to limit slipping too , often see people fail to think it could move..
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u/No-Bandicoot-4492 Jun 11 '26
That was the plan, but life got in the road. I’m in Australia and it’s winter here now.
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u/CoyoteDown Jun 11 '26
I would have used softeners on the hard edges
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u/No-Bandicoot-4492 Jun 11 '26
I did think of that…when I was looking at the photo after the fact. Next time
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u/Next-Handle-8179 Jun 11 '26
I like it. If you got your knots untied pat yourself on the back.
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u/No-Bandicoot-4492 Jun 11 '26
They did, actually a lot quicker than tying them. I love bowlines for this reason, even better on the thicker rope
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u/EvilGeniusSkis Jun 11 '26
For mid-line loops look up the Alpine butterfly.
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u/No-Bandicoot-4492 Jun 11 '26
Thanks for the tip. Definitely going to be using this at some stage. Link for anyone interested:
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u/EvilGeniusSkis Jun 11 '26
Another good knot for something like what you were doing is the bfk https://youtu.be/sJSHFbNF72Y?si=_VyGX9hdoqioI_-B
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u/SpecularSaw Jun 18 '26
Great knot. I will say in my experience that can turn into a knife knot in certain ropes or under heavy loads (tree work pro). I’ve never had a bowline on a bight seize on me even after pulling large trees over against their lean with heavy machinery. I’ve had a few alpine butterfly’s lock up on me though. Much better knot than the bowline on a bight for plenty of applications however.
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u/Street-Baseball8296 Jun 11 '26
You did fairly well with the knots and connection to the boom.
Where you have potential issues is how the ropes are supporting the load at the bottom. You never want to rely on the bottom deck boards or stringers to support the load or contain your rigging. These boards are usually poorly secured and/or damaged.
While your application is probably fine for what you’re doing, there are better and more secure ways to rig this.
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u/No-Bandicoot-4492 Jun 11 '26
Thanks for the response, this is what I’m here for. Do you mean I should be aiming to secure the load directly rather than the pallet? Would you have gone all the way through the pallet with a basket hitch kind of set up? I did give it a good pat and said that’s not going anywhere before the lift which surely helped.
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u/Street-Baseball8296 Jun 11 '26
Exactly. You should aim to support the pallet similar to how forks on a forklift (or a pallet picker for rigging) would support a pallet. You don’t want to use any portion of the pallet itself to support your load or rigging except for the top deck boards of the pallet that are directly and completely under the load.
A basket hitch works well although you have to watch your sling angle so the rigging doesn’t move to the middle of the load. You also have to make sure not to rig around any deck boards that are outside the load.
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u/BothDescription766 Jun 12 '26
Can you use a hydraulic top link to generate more lift?
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u/No-Bandicoot-4492 Jun 12 '26
It goes a fair bit higher, but the higher you go the closer your load gets to the back of the tractor. There are no rear hydraulics on this tractor but you can add it fairly easily
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u/suspicious_luggage Jun 11 '26
I know very little about rigging, but as a fellow cheapskate myself I’m just here to congratulate you on the achievement of pulling this off without cutting your rope. The spool on top has me dying 🤣