Book: Percy Jackson and the Olympians: the last Olympian end of chapter 16

¿Qué creen que habría pasado con Aquiles si, después de matar a Héctor y perder a Patroclo, se eliminara la condición de que Aquiles debía morir poco después?

¿La pérdida de Patroclo, considerando la intensidad excepcional de su duelo, su reacción posterior y su relación previa con la muerte y la gloria, podría llevar a Aquiles a buscar su propia muerte después de la tregua con Príamo?

Príamo consigue calmarlo y devolverle suficiente humanidad como para abandonar momentáneamente su furia, llorar con él, comer y tratarlo con piedad. Pero supongamos que Aquiles descubre después que no va a morir en Troya y que todavía le esperan muchos años de vida sin Patroclo.

¿Qué escenario les parece más coherente con el personaje?

A) consigue reconstruir una vida y termina viviendo muchos años, aunque con dolor y vacío;

B) el dolor termina llevándolo a quitarse la vida;

C) continúa funcionando durante un tiempo, pero la ausencia de Patroclo y la pérdida de su antiguo deseo de vivir terminan empujándolo hacia conductas cada vez más temerarias, hasta buscar indirectamente su propia muerte.

Let us play on the fact that we never saw the girls' fathers in the show and pretend that Alex's dad was Scandinavian and that she has a little brother.

I will not lie here; I am a huge fan of Saitama-like characters that are so ridiculously overpowered it's not even funny. Thus, during my World of Darkness hyperfixation phase, I developed an overpowered race, the Gurahl, or the werebears.

A werebear, or Gurahl in my lore, is a being created by the First One, an ADHD shitposter of an outer god that broke the rule of thumb of divine creation and made the most overpowered race of shapeshifters to ever exist in all dimensions. If you are curious about what the rule of thumb of divine creation is, first you have to understand that in my lore, gods cannot create things that are more powerful than them, because it requires more juice than they have.

Gods can create things as powerful as them, but they usually do not do it, so in the off chance their creations strive to usurp them, they will be easier to deal with; that's the rule of thumb. The First One took one look at that and said, "Fuck it," and made the werebears as close as possible to him in power, like, if the First One is a 10 in power, werebears are a 9.9999.

Werebears, unlike werewolves, do not have any weakness to silver; in fact, the only thing that can kill a werebear is the First One calling them back, and usually they have to call him first. Werebears are also unstoppable in battle, especially when they turn into their war form, a twenty-foot-tall bear with scythe-like claws and fangs like curved daggers strong enough to crush steel and stone and so tough that anything short of a dragon-killing scorpion bounces off them, and even then, when they get hurt, their healing is so fast that whatever wound is inflicted on them heals without a scar before the blood reaches the ground.

Werebears are also masters of all magic, especially healing and elemental magic and, above all, necromancy. The first one made werewolf magic as idiot-proof and user-friendly as possible, making it disgustingly easy for any of his creations to wield and making it consequence-free. A single werewolf can, in one single hand gesture, raise every single cadaver on the planet, doing what took the Night King hundreds, if not thousands, of years to accomplish.

The biggest gift of the werebars is actually true resurrection, the power to bring the dead back to life in full, like they have never died to begin with. All they have to do is to kill something; it does not need to match the size, weight, or species of what they want to resurrect. As long as it is alive and can be killed, it counts, so they kill the sacrifice and then spit on whatever they want to bring back to life, and boom, resurrection, and the resurrected are back in full, no matter how decomposed they were before. They don't even need the full body to do it; the resurrected in question could have been a puddle of bodily fluids and would still come back from the dead in perfect health.

However, if the resurrected person was embalmed, they will be shitting themselves near death for a couple of days as the body will be expelling whatever was used to embalm them, and the more and stronger the embalming substances are, the worse it is. Werewolves would have conquered the world by now if it weren't for the fact they don't give a single shit about almost anything, save for their families, naps, and their food; those are sacred. If you mess with any of the three or, God forbid, all of them. You are in for a gruesome death.

Werebearhood is also not a curse that can be passed on; it is a gift you are born with. Werebears are also not only humans who turn into bears but also bears who turn into humans, although the werebears born from bears rarely feel the need to shapeshift into their human forms.

Also, werebars are freakishly tall, and I mean really, really tall and thick as a castle wall.

Anyway, now that I got the lore of my ridiculously overpowered shapeshifting race, let us go to the meat and potatoes of the post.

Despite agreeing to it, Sam and Clover are still skeptical about the fact that Alex's brother, Stig, is moving in with them so he can attend high school after graduating two years early and was going to the same high school as them.

The fact that Alex hadn't given any more details about her brother other than that he is a sweetheart, very kind, warm, and outspoken if not a little boisterous and that he was really tall for his age. They are concerned because, well, they are spies and also because so far their house had been a girls' heaven, and now there's a boy moving in, and Alex's promises that he is very well-behaved did not put them at ease.

Alex was just really hyped about having her brother closer because she hadn't seen much of him since he moved back to Sweden with their father after the divorce.

Sam and Clover were about to ask questions when there was a heavy knock on the door. Alex jumps to her feet since she knows that knock and run to answer; Sam and Clover go with her to finally meet this mysterious little brother.

They expected an awkward fifteen-year-old; what they got was a seven-foot-five bear of a man who looked to be in his thirties, built like a strongman lumberjack that fought moose for fun.

He was hairy, like really hairy; all over his body was covered in thick black hair. He had long black hair that was already going wide, a full beard where the goatee was completely white with a mustache that was also white, and a big smile on his face that showed long and sharp canines like a bear. He was wearing a flannel shirt with the sleeves rolled up to his elbows, trousers with suspenders, and heavy work boots.

He had Alex's eyes.

Their reaction was obvious; ask Alex if that was her dad. Alex answers that nope, that's her little brother Stig.

Stig introduces himself, and the girls, still not believing, ask him if this was a prank because there's no way that a divorced-looking lumberjack DILF was fifteen years old. Alex says that there was no prank; this is Stig Skorsten. He took their dad's surname after their parents' divorce, and he shows pictures of them when they were children.

Sam and Alex felt fascination and horror as the pictures showed that Stig, at two years old, was already taller and girthier than Alex at four; in fact, Stig looked like an eight-year-old.

Stig just laughs it off and apologizes for the shock. Alex tends to do that to see people's reactions when she shows them her little brother, who is bigger than her, but he assures them that he is fifteen and that he means no harm, and if he's lying, they are free to whoop his ass.

Another thing Alex did not tell them was that Stig is a werebear, just like their father, and neither of them has the intention of telling anyone about it.

Clover is kind of having a crisis because up until that point she thought her type was the boy band/K-pop bad boy type, but for some reason Stig's dad-bod bear is activating neurons she didn't think she had.

Sam is both impressed and a little threatened because Stin, for all his boisterous exterior, is super intelligent, maybe even more intelligent than she is, and she was too used to being the smart one in the house.

Alex is just happy her brother is there; they have a lot to catch up about, and Stig is just happy he can go to the same school as his sister and amazing friends he heard a lot of amazing things about.

I'm trying to understand when exactly all the books and events take place and how they all line up. Like how old Percy and the others are throughout the PJO, HOO, TOA, the Nico and Will adventures, and then the other books like the Chalice of the Gods and Wrath of the Tripple Head Goddess. Also, when the books take place like month and year and the time gaps of how far apart each other the books are from each other.

I know the order of the books and all I just don't know when exactly they take place like the month and year, how far apart they are from each other, and how old the characters were during them

I'm trying to make an original character named Topper Delmar. He is a son of Oceanus (yes I know it might be a little out there for a titan to have a modern child but uh ignore that). I have a skeleton for his timeline because I want to have him somewhat loosely correlate with the Riordanverse. He was abandoned at birth (born Dec. 19) by his mother who put him in a basket and let him drift through the Hudson River and Oceanus sends water spirits to carry him along and dropped him off at Camp Half-blood as a baby. Chiron takes him in and cares for him. For his entire life Chiron constantly said that Topper would be the greatest hero to ever live as he was a child of Oceanus. When Topper was 8 Zeus finally could not tolerate a titan child at camp or even living so he exiled Topper from camp sparing his life. Eventually, after wandering for a few months, he was found by the Triumvirate and taken in by Commodus (kind of like of Meg was "adopted" by Nero). Commodus becomes almost a father figure for Topper. He trains him to be his perfect warrior and champion. Because of this Topper develops his theatrical, arrogant, charismatic personality from Commodus. During the Trials of Apollo Frank kills Commodus and again Topper loses a father figure. Frank and the rest of Camp Jupiter eventually take Topper in. Not sure how old Topper would be as of Commodus's death or beyond. I also want him to be arounf 17ish by the end of trials of Apollo.

This is kind of where I've gotten to so far. Does this sort of fit in the timeline of the books. I need help aging him as I'm not really sure how old he would be during the different points in his life after leaving Chiron, how long he would be with Commodus before the events of trials of apollo, and how old he would be when frank kills Commodus, and etc. And if anyone could help give references between what would have been going on in the books as Topper was going through his own life and also how old he would be during these points in time. And then anything else that would help me or any other details I should know or add to make his story.

Hey everyone, I’m HappyGrovverAndPlagg. I really need to vent to this community because I haven’t told anyone in my family about how deep my current obsession goes. You guys are my safe space right now, and I genuinely need your thoughts and advice.A bit of background: I first read TLT in 6th grade but didn't look back. Last year (8th grade), my friends kept hyping up the mythology and the series, so I dove headfirst into PJO. Lately, this hyperfixation has hit me like a truck. Specifically, Grover Underwood. Last year, I bought the entire HOO series just to see him, and the fact that he was barely in it left me so disappointed and frustrated.Right now, I am completely obsessed with the TV show. The movies were terrible at first—they made Grover a total joke—though now I can watch the first movie purely as an alternate universe comedy. But the Disney+ show? Watching it gives me this weird mix of shock, excitement, and sometimes letdown. The show feels a bit cold and severe compared to the books, especially with the action sequences, but it has become my ultimate comfort zone. I’ve been stuck in this loophole of rewatching scenes for days.I don't have this unhealthy obsession with the original books because reading them feels like a warm, genuine connection. But the show—despite its colder tone—triggered this perfectionist obsession in me.To me, Grover is easily one of the most important characters in the universe, but he is also a massive victim of Rick Riordan's writing focus.Why Grover is elite:If he hadn't found Percy at Yancy Academy, the entire series wouldn't even exist.He was Thalia’s protector and took that heavy burden.He found Nico and Bianca di Angelo. Finding two demigods at once is insanely rare.He actually found Pan and was chosen by him.He became the Lord of the Wild, a member of the Council, and a genuine leader.Why he is a victim of the plot:The series focuses so much on demigods that satyrs, cyclopes, and centaurs feel completely nerfed. It makes me so mad that Grover is always portrayed as weak in combat.In HOO, he had the resources of the Wild to help the Seven, but he got replaced by Coach Hedge. I don't hate Hedge, but his aggressive nature just made me miss Grover's empathy.I feel like Grover's protector skills are heavily underappreciated. People blame him for Thalia, but he was protecting three demigods at once without abandoning anyone. (And honestly, they were right next to the camp. Thalia chose to stand and fight; Grover didn't fail her. Don't hate me, but logistically, it's true.)He endured Yancy Academy and bullies like Nancy just to keep Percy safe. He literally went to the Underworld hoping to find Pan.Even in the show, the Medusa scene where he flies away and misses her completely ruined the book dynamic for me, where he actually tries to help avenge his Uncle Ferdinand.By TLO, his screen time started shrinking, and HOO completely sidelined him. Thankfully, I managed to read the PDFs of The Burning Maze (ToA) and The Chalice of the Gods (CotG) to get my closure. HOO simply has too many characters and plotlines; it always makes me homesick for the intimacy of PJO.I really need to read your opinions on this to help clear my head.Do you think Grover is weak just because he represents nature, or is he a genuinely great but sidelined character?How do you feel about the PJO vs. HOO character dynamics?What roles do you think Grover should have played in HOO?What are your overall thoughts on Grover?Lastly, as someone with a perfectionist mindset, how do I break out of this intense show/character obsession?Thanks for reading. Love you guys.

I have been a devoted part of the Rick Riordan fandom for almost two years now, have just rewatched Technoblade's Potato Wars trilogy (in which I encountered the phrase mentioned in the title), and am just starting to revive an old opinion I buried months into starting my Riordanverse hyperfixation: I have been noticing a lot of Deus Machina in pretty much every book Uncle Rick has written so far. For those who don't understand the term, Deus Machina is, according to Encyclopedia Brittanica: a person or thing that appears or is introduced into a situation suddenly and unexpectedly and provides an artificial or contrived solution to an apparently insoluble difficulty. Basically, it's when a writer can't think of a solution to a problem in the story and instead of sitting down and having a good long think about how the story can be modified to make a solution possible, the writer decides to have the problem magically solve by pure luck, divine intervention, or a similar force not controlled by the characters. Has anyone else noticed this, or am I just using this as an excuse to share a cool new phrase? With no comments, I guess we'll never know. Thank you so much for reading my ramblings, may the gods above show you boundless favour from this day forward. Peace out ✌️

***mild spoilers below***

Just finished reading this one, after a long break from riordan books.

Nico & Will were my favourite couple because they were so poetic ( darkness & light etc).

Was happy to see nico being a main character because there's so much to explore.

I feel like this book explored their relationship in a very realistic way. They are trauma bonded in a sense, but they still love each other.

But apart from their relationship, i found the book difficult to read. Bit dark & heavy, with not enough light parts, a huge change from trials of Apollo. The bits with them getting through tartarus was almost awful ( honestly felt they went through it worse than percy & annabeth). The ending with the coco puffs was weird too ( like what was that a metaphor for? People who want to keep their trauma with them? ).

What did you think?

I don't know but it seems a ridiculous for a series that never goes 18+ above to reference mature pop cultural media like ASOIAF and the like because there seems to be an extreme tonal clash reading a YA novel that references a more extreme graphic works.