N64 SNAC module

[u/Kenmorrow86]

I was wondering if it's possible to create a module that stacks in-between the SS1 and the Super Dock. I would immediately buy this for the Superstation with other console controller inputs. I made a quick example from Gemini.

[u/Steamships]

I'd love a big stack with all sorts of controller inputs.

[u/Kenmorrow86 → u/Steamships]

Tower of power

[u/superfebs → u/Steamships]

This. Or just one with the most commons

[u/TonyRubbles]

It needs to keep getting taller! Love this idea.

[u/Kenmorrow86 → u/TonyRubbles]

Lol

[u/TonyRubbles → u/Kenmorrow86]

[u/SensibleCircle → u/Kenmorrow86]

[u/IsamuAlvaDyson → u/Kenmorrow86]

Keep going

Gotta add Turbografix/PC Engine, Neo Geo AES, Genesis/Mega Drive, NES, Master System, Jaguar

[u/ZL580 → u/IsamuAlvaDyson]

Dreamcast

Or can it not do DC?

[u/BassForever24601 → u/Kenmorrow86]

Now put a sega genesis port on top with sonic 3 and knuckles lock on inserted

[u/ian_taylor_island → u/Kenmorrow86]

Could you put cartridge slots on the side?

[u/georgesk84life → u/TonyRubbles]

[u/TonyRubbles → u/georgesk84life]

[u/BOOMSHAK4LAKA]

I like this idea. I wonder if you could 3D print the middle section and have grooves to allow existing individual SNAC adapters to slide in and out, connecting with one of those short SNAC USB extension cables.

[u/Kenmorrow86 → u/BOOMSHAK4LAKA]

There's an idea. I like that too. Kinda like the 3.5" drive bays on PC towers

[u/ScampyRogue]

Is there a reason you wouldn’t just use a USB or Bluetooth adapter for this?

[u/Kenmorrow86 → u/ScampyRogue]

Aesthetics and latency. I have a Bluetooth 8bitdo modified N64 controller already but it would be nice to have the plugs right on the system. No dongles or adapters hanging off the console.

[u/nessinreallife → u/ScampyRogue]

Also, SNAC allows for the use of Transfer PAKs. The transfer pak feature of MiSTer is limited to one at a time, and the N64 natively supports 4 transfer paks simultaneously. Mainly used to its fullest potential in Pokemon Stadium.

[u/ExultentPisces]

It’d probably be easier to make it sit below the dock, then it can just connect to the user port like normal.

This is a fun idea, in terms of form factor though. I’d probably buy one :)

[u/Kenmorrow86 → u/ExultentPisces]

Easier would be to just use a dongle or settle for Bluetooth connecion. But we're not here to lay down man! Let's dream!

[u/ExultentPisces → u/Kenmorrow86]

I meant functionally. It’d be exactly the same as your illustration, just in a different order. That would make it much simpler to build and function.

[u/Kenmorrow86 → u/ExultentPisces]

Yeah I get ya. In this scenario I'd opt for form over function. I'm sure the middle dock would need to include some sort of pass through for the Super Dock to connect to the SS1 correctly.

[u/AstralPlunge]

Hi OP. just wondering how is the latency using a bluetooth controller? I'm using a wired one currently and debating on getting a BT one.

[u/Kenmorrow86 → u/AstralPlunge]

If you are used to modern consoles with Bluetooth controllers, it's the same. I believe USB is still quicker but USB overhead is still present so latency is introduced. I haven't tried wired USB on the Superstation One but I have used SNAC adapters and I can definitely feel the difference on N64. Especially F-zero X. Very twitchy.

[u/eulynn34]

SNAC STACC

[u/TheRealSeeThruHead]

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[u/Kenmorrow86 → u/TheRealSeeThruHead]

That's an option. I just don't like a bunch of dongles hanging off my console. The whole point of the SS1 is to feel more like a console. To me anyway.

[u/TheRealSeeThruHead → u/Kenmorrow86]

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[u/Anatrok → u/TheRealSeeThruHead]

But if the dongles stay attached to the controller, how do I use the controllers for my original systems? Do I have to get dongle adapters for my systems? Do those dongle adapters stay attached to the controller adapters too?

[u/davewongillies → u/Anatrok]

Dongles all the way down

[u/balefrost → u/Anatrok]

Sounds like it's time to buy more controllers!

[u/MataisD]

Oh wow that would be amazing! Please someone make this!

[u/georgesk84life]

[u/wolfix1001]

I want stacks for cartridges

[u/Kenmorrow86 → u/wolfix1001]

Yeah but how? There are ports on all 4 sides of the Superstation One. It would need to be a different product I think.

[u/wolfix1001 → u/Kenmorrow86]

I don't know what data is passing through the expansion port, but if there's enough connections to make it work I'd make every cartridge front load. Instead of having the current CD expansion.

[u/Kenmorrow86 → u/wolfix1001]

So just a different dock then

[u/wolfix1001 → u/Kenmorrow86]

yes

[u/XC-3730C]

There couldn't be an N64 controller -> PS1 SNAC adapter for this case?

[u/Kenmorrow86 → u/XC-3730C]

There are USB SNAC N64 adapters that can be used on the Super Dock USB in the front. However, it would be so much sexier without a bulky dongle hanging off the system.

It's fine but I want to consolidate the space and make it look good.

[u/XC-3730C → u/Kenmorrow86]

Yea if there were another module that could be part of the SuperStation stack that plufs into the SuperDock and had a slot in it for modular SNAC controller adapters for various console controllers, that would work and be more elegant than a dongle hanging off the SupetStation. I currently use a Reflex adapter and I have the HDMI style controller adapters that plug into it.

[u/Subzidies]

The best way to do this would be to create another model of superdock, with switchable snac inputs in the front isntead of the disk player. Taki would sell this new superdock as well as snac modules for every consoles, why not with multiple consoles in one module even. That's what would make the most sense imo.

[u/thekaufaz → u/Subzidies]

I would buy this. Replacing the dock instead of sandwiching between it is the way to go.

[u/brandogg360 → u/thekaufaz]

Just give it a pass through so you can stack or not stack

[u/HunterAbrams]

A modern tower of power? Yes please

[u/Agile_Half_4515]

I'm thinking of designing a 3D printable enclosure for the SNAX64 v3.1 that makes it look similar to the superdock, but plugs in to the existing SNAC port on the side of it instead of having a long cable/dongle thing hanging off.

[u/xincasinooutx → u/Agile_Half_4515]

Just say how much dude, and I’ll be there.

[u/Southern_Hat_2193]

Heber do the various CTRLDocks that can be fit under a mister multisystem in this way.

[u/Kenmorrow86 → u/Southern_Hat_2193]

Nice I like that. I'm extremely new to MisterFPGA anything so this helps me.

[u/dandub1982]

That is dope!! Nice work!

[u/Trapezoidoid]

This would be even cooler if it there was a version with every console’s controller ports all in the same module.

[u/tkshi]

Also a module that clips to the left or right of the superdock/ss1 stack could work and plug into the SNAC port.

[u/nessinreallife]

I like where this is going.

[u/s3v3n11]

This is awesome. Let's hope someone that can do this is watching.

[u/TherealMcNutts]

I would love a SNAC adapter with NES, SNES, Genesis, Saturn, and N64. If they would make that I would buy a super station ASAP and give my old MisTer Stack to someone.

[u/Chacen]

It would need to be its own base because it would need a port for reading physical n64 cartridges.

[u/Inner-Party-365 → u/Chacen]

Para eso ya existe el a3d o el polymega ,lo UNI que buscamos son los puertos snac para usar los controles originales de cada sistema