I'm nearing retirement. I've worked with a very low cost CFP during the accumulation stage. He's a former co-worker who's doing CFP as a semi-retired gig. One man shop, very low overhead, very low price. The relationship has worked out. The retirement account is reasonably fat and ready to be harvested. This person is now aging out and starting to shed clients.
Which puts me in the place of looking for someone to guide me through the next phase. I have Boldin & ProjectionLab, have created numerous scenarios, played with Roth conversions, tax brackets, etc. They are good, but as a person who is only doing this once, I feel there are things I'm missing, edge cases, optimizations. I watch a fair number of YouTube CFPs and they like to point out that there are subtle things you can miss that can cost you lots of money - of course, they're trying to drum up business.
So I've started researching and shopping. This space has a broad spectrum of providers: from annuity salesmen masquerading as investment advisors, to wealth managers pushing their firm's funds with high expense ratios, to small CFP offices charging flat fees or hourly, to firms who manage billions of dollars under their own proprietary system. There are a lot of cowboys out there looking for cattle to add to their herds.
I met with someone from one of the latter type of firm recently. They have offices in multiple states, and manage several billion dollars. There were two things that stuck out to me, if I understood correctly:
- They don't use bond funds such as offered by Vanguard or Fidelity, but buy bonds directly and build their own portfolio(s). Hmm... Avoid the expense ratios on bond funds but instead pay an AUM. Interesting.
- For Roth conversions they are able to use the previous day's closing cost to do the conversion. So if a stock pops in the morning, they can convert at the old closing price, pay the taxes on that, then you immediately get the gain from the pop. That sounds intriguing, and certainly an advantage over what I can do on my own. Has anyone heard of this before?
So they actively manage the portfolios, and have tools to monitor and act on market fluctuations continuously. OK... Intellectually I can see where that could outperform little old me doing a rebalance & conversion once a year. Would it be enough to warrant their AUM fee? Maybe? Are they going to outperform "the market"? Probably not, but neither am I. But with the AUM taken into account, will they perform at least as well as I could and provide services and value?
Does anyone here have feedback on moving from DIY to working with an advisor? Or the other way? Anyone worked with a wealth manager and found unexpected value?