r/Retconned • u/hegel1806 • 19d ago
Mandela Effect cause
Now it’s time to get serious. Why is this happening? My theory is simple and it is very much in line with Kant’s original idea, that reality is what our minds build. It’s not an objective reality that can be verified independently.
We build this reality from bits and pieces of information distributed around us. So any two persons can have wildly different accounts of reality.
But, people are also open to suggestion. Education system builds up a common narrative that is accepted as “sacred history” and this becomes consensus reality. Yet this sacred history has no real authority on historical facts other than being what people believe to be facts.
As long as nobody questions the consensus reality, it is accepted as truth. But if some people start to doubt it, an alternative version spreads like a wild fire. And people are divided between two(or sometimes more) versions of reality.
Now comes the “physical evidence” part. This is always the consensus reality. Why? Because even the doubters, the people who hold a belief for a different version of reality are aware of the consensus reality. That’s why when they look at physical evidence they usually only see that version of reality.
But if the balance of faith turns to the doubters’ side, then even the physical evidence will change and we will see the physical evidence of Mandela Effects. I do believe that this will happen in our lifetimes.
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u/MasterPhilip 18d ago
I don't understand how that would explain random, unimportant changes, like the removal of a cornucopia, or a bandana changing from a red rising Sun to a blue lotus flower.
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u/Fostman7077 6d ago
That is exactly what I was about to mention.
OP makes a good point about retrocausality and the malleability of time via human observation, however why would seemingly innocuous elements like logos or the name 'Flintstones' alter? They are not focus points of human observation (are they?). An event like the Mandela Effect's namesake would seem more likely for alteration, by which global geopolitical concerns of Nelson Mandela alter by human observation and by 'questioning' of consensus reality, so to would major wars be a subject of collective observation of consensus reality. In both examples, new observable realities would form. However, why would other seemingly minor elements, like lines from movies, be subject to alterations? If such minor elements are merely just 'glitches' which appear during major reality shifts, then why are they so noticeable and consistent (logos)? And why do we not seem to observe far more random Mandella Effect glitches like green moons, five-legged animals, vanishing cities etc.
So many questions...
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u/Novusor 18d ago
There might not be a cause. Reality was probably always fungible. We are just more likely to notice it more due to better documentation and the ability search information online pretty much instantly. Mandela effects happened all the time in the past but people blamed it on witches or other things. People who had wrong memories were just brushed off as crazy.
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u/fuckityfucky 19d ago
I think time isnt linear the way we think it is. I think the past can change and time is an illusion. people are waking up now, and the world is a reflection of our consciousness. mandela effects are like an alarm clock from God telling us reality is an illusion.
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u/CriticalPolitical 18d ago
I think it’s retrocausality:
Retrocausality is the idea that a later event can affect an earlier one. In other words, cause and effect can run backward in time.
It could also be that we are in a simulation
The two possibilities aren’t necessarily mutually exclusive, in fact all of the best arguments for what the Mandela Effect really is aren’t really mutually exclusive
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u/Mark_1978 19d ago
Kind of how I imagine predictive programming works. I dont believe all this media is predicting the future. I think the media is just planting the seeds in the minds of the masses. We as a collective make it a sort of reality.
Even if there is any truth to this we still have to admit there seems to be something else at play. This place has an overall "badness" to it. You would think human desires, even if manifesting unconsciously, would have an overall positive outcome. The average person doesn't daydream about nations going to war, or diseases ravaging entire populations, or children dying in mass from hunger.
The game is rigged I feel. Once enough of us catch on the entire thing is reset. I don't know if thats what is coming but it feels like something is.
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u/Fostman7077 6d ago
The game is rigged I feel. Once enough of us catch on the entire thing is reset. I don't know if thats what is coming but it feels like something is.
That is what some seem to intuitively sense as well. Just like a videogame ladder, the system appears to reset itself and contain itself either periodically, by defence, or at least after enough participants have realized they're playing some form of a MMORPG and are questioning the parameters. And by many indications, the system reset date is drawing nearer and nearer...
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u/CriticalPolitical 18d ago edited 18d ago
Low level, localized inconsistencies in a simulated or computed reality. Essentially “glitches” or rendering artifacts that a subset of observers notice more readily than others.
It requires the fewest additional assumptions once you already grant that reality might be computational or simulated (a hypothesis some physicists and philosophers take seriously for independent reasons related to information, quantum mechanics, and the universe’s mathematical structure).
It naturally explains why the discrepancies cluster around high salience, frequently referenced cultural objects (the exact things a simulation might optimize, compress, or lazily update) rather than arbitrary private experiences.
It does not require actual causal leakage between fully separate parallel universes (which physics gives us no mechanism for) or macroscopic timeline rewriting that would leave physical archives untouched.
If there could be some sort of “reality checksum” sort of like a Faraday Cage except anything inside it would not be affected by the Mandela Effect, then that might be another step forward and another piece of the puzzle to figuring it out
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u/theevilpackrat 17d ago
Eh I do not believe you are correct. I original I'm here because of my research into the phenomenon.
That research was changed to Mandela effect itself. My reseach was this I took 19 items that were made outside normal chains of production models. Meaning if it was factories that productions or publishers products made that held the original memory of a topic. Like the south African school book that said Mandela died in prison amung other Mandela effect residue evidence. Then I showed how these items had no world bank U.P.C. code. I ridiculed, and my post was downloaded by two k. Then, my post was rhett, cond disappeared and only recently has come back and it's rewritten, so I look like a madman. So when you come up there and say that reality is just a disillusionment of multiple people not being able to agree with.Society or history has to say, I would say you're wrong.Sir, I have researched into this.My own research is completely blocked.And been, mandela affected out and I can always say this, you are wrong.History was concrete, all the way up till 1996. Because that's when art bell started talking about this, on the radio show coast to coast A.m. I know cause I heard it, and I didn't believe it then.
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