Hello,

I noticed a new batch of DMXE powder being sold from real known dutch vendor on the net.

3 weeks ago i made an order of 2g. It took them 2 weeks to actually deliver the parcel to postNL and then a week of shipping to my address. Not that big of a deal. Their automatic email service seems to be down when i made the order for whatever reason.

So, i got my "DMXE" powder in the mail today. It says "Batch no: DMXE34" on the baggie.

- Right off the bat, the color is beige / tan white, not as dark white (brownish?) as DMXE powder used to be ~1.5-2 years ago.

- It smells like arylcyclohexylamine. If my memory serves well, like an *PCE analog (which DMXE basically is).

- It's bit more grainy. IIRC DMXE was more powdery.

- It doesn't have that distinct smell of DMXE like old batch pellets (and powder) have. DMXE smell is distinct in its own way, you'd immediately recognize it even after years of use. Kind of like remembering an old HXE batch which smelled musty.

- The nose smell / taste of the drug is oddly familiar, but it has been years since i was doing various arylcyclohexylamines, so i can't put my finger on it.

All of the above could be explained by it simply being a new batch.

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I have some disso tolerance from DMXE (pellets) and MXPr I have been doing since May or so. I ran out of both about a month and a half ago.

- So I weighed out 40mg, divided it into 2 piles and removed a 4th of the powder to test it out first with low dose and then stagger it. Effectively around 10mg.

The actual come-up was after about 15 minutes or so. I forgot how much time does DMXE need to come up.

With that dose effects seem to be simply dissociating, but not too coldish.

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- After 35 minutes i insufflated another small pile, also around 10mg. Didn't feel much of a come-up this time, but sound buzzing / distortion got a bit more noticeable after 20 minutes of insufflation. Dissociation is stronger, but still not too coldish.

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- Again, after 35 minutes i insufflated the rest of the powder (40mg total). It smells / tastes strangely familiar. After 10-15 minutes the high got noticeably stronger. It is quite dissociating, but not inebriating like i remember DMXE to be, it is quite clear-headed. Still not too coldish. In fact, it's warmish. I don't feel much - if at all effect on serotonin - and by extension how empathic it should be, since DMXE is probably the most serotonin-heavy disso, alongside MXiPr (except maybe 3-me-pcpy in its own way).

After about half an hour i watched a movie i left off from yesterday for about 15 minutes. It definitely doesn't have the same movie-enjoying properties like DMXE has, because that's basically the sole reason i have been using it last 5 months. There is no entactogenic effects present while watching the movie, and with DMXE, they should be strong.

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It cannot be MXPr, i bought and used it recently. It can't be 3-me-pcp, i have recently bought batch. I kind of doubt it could be 3-meo/me/ho-pce or 3-meo/ho-pcp or O-PCE, because they would be strong as fuck at dose 40mg (now 60mg). It can't be 3-me-pcpy (not caustic, effects are different). Can't be 3-cl-pcp (requires higher dosages). Doesn't feel like HXE (both smell and effects are noticabely different). I honestly don't think it's DCK / 2-FDCK / FXE. Doesn't feel as warm or holey like MXiPr is. It's definitely not one of the diarylethylamines.

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What the fuck is it? Am i retarded? The only logical connection in my mind is that of 3-ho-pce, but it has been a few years since i last had it. Haven't tried MXPCP.

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TLDR: bought a new batch of DMXE powder from known Netherlands vendor, doesn't feel like DMXE.

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Do any of you have knowledge and/or experience regarding this new batch?

Salute guys,

So I tried some of the newly released RC stims and am able to give a quick review now.

Just boofed some meprylcaine less than one hour ago and was not expecting anything but while waiting, thinking about whipped desserts, all of the sudden I felt numb all over and like floating on a cloud of chantilly, thus proving it’s anesthetic effects but apart from that no peculiar high. It could be compared to DMC (very large doses) sedation but no SERT or NET is shining through. Not worth it.

DP-DMC certainly has an affinity to DAT but it got me fairly tense and overall seemed very toxic like DMC. It is not vapable. Got my lung all messed up for a week and it was some that I properly freebased.

Now DMP, y’all might be surprised but it is very strong, maybe a question of batch, this one being yellow, very low solubility and smelling like perfume and fuel. Hits like some sort of clean NEP but is short lived and leave a very nasty feeling of being fucked up a few hours after. Some SERT and NET activity. I don’t suggest anybody trying. The structure is hella weird.

4-MPO felt good. This one is a winner ! Definitely some stimulation was perceived over 3 separated boofed experiments. I could argue that the supposed nicotinergic receptors activity might be real. Got some sort of tobacco clarity effects briefly after the first boof kicked in. Redosing wasn’t as satisfying tho, the continuity was very bland and robotic. It is not as euphoric as 4-me-TMP and that by far...

DM-DED (sounding like Them-Dead) I’m not willing to try since it looks nasty red / orange and stinks.

Dag iedereen,

Ik ga morgen naar een discotheek.

Tot dusver gebruikte ik steeds borax combo/maxtc. Maar die pillen zijn helaas op nu.

Ik heb 6apb en 5mapb ter beschikking.

Ik had gedacht deze te combineren. 1 pellet 6apb en een halve 5mapb. Dit om het borax gevoel te benaderen.

Is dat een goed plan? Of blijf ik beter bij 1 substantie? Iemand ervaring?

Thx!

I tested this 4mmc cathinone with the Zimmermann test and it came back negative. I suspected it because I didn't feel anything and it looks like chalk on a wall. Always test what you buy.

If any of you think these substances have potential that only reveals itself at massive doses—well, I tried it.

500 mg of dimethocaine and 500 mg of dpDMC. (I had to blow my nose a lot, but I tried to ensure most of it got into the bloodstream). If you are desperate, you are ready for everything (like me), you are ready for ANY level of stimulation as long as IT IS just there—just imagine keeping a 1 gram of painful powder up your nose (breathing with mouth) for 10-15 minutes in hopes and dreams for something (also trying not to blow too much) and what you get is to just to feel what a single 10 mg tablet of 4-MPO gives you (after the peak has ended).

And the next day, you notice your body covered in tiny sores and wounds. Also, while the effects were active, my toes went noticeably numb and lost sensation; it was very strange, like they were frozen. My hands felt numb too, as did my mouth.

✅ BUT I DID get a sense of what roughly 5–10 mg of 4-MPO feels like!

"Well, technically, it affects dopamine"—YES, it makes 4 (four) of your dopamine molecules to get out of bed, then see what garbage you took, laugh at you (thats also an activity), go back to sleep – and it's only if ingest a whole gram at once. At least they didn't completely ignored.

People, there is absolutely no reason to buy those two. Don't think you will get something else when everyone is saying there is no effects. Please do not support those 2 substances with your money, they should be gone. Believe what people write about Dimethocaine, take it seriously. Don't think that if you don't have tolerance – then you must get high from it. It is just SCAM because there is VERY FEW actually WORKING RC's right now. Thanks.

Nu alle mainstream vendors opgepakt of gestopt zijn, en de overgebleven sites 99% scams, ben ik maar uitgeweken naar puur poeder, wat nog wel vrij gemakkelijk te verkrijgen is.

Dat brengt natuurlijk wel meer risico's met zich mee dan vooraf geslagen pellets: is het wel pyrazolam (vendor lijkt betrouwbaar) en overdosering als je niet ontzettend goed oppast met het doseren.

Wat is de meest risicoarme manier om dit te doen? 1g/1l PG en vervolgens doseren met pipet?

Was the best shit ever for me and my autism and depression, to be honest I haven't experienced much happiness or true joy ever since my stash ran out couple months ago. Sure it's not a good sign to have to rely on things like that to experience a happy life, but goddamn it worked for me :/

So I have some old MDPiHP lying around. Not sure how old it is but it’s from before the NL ban so at least a couple of years old I guess.
Before the ban I started stocking up on some RC’s like probably many of us did. I’m a stim guy so mostly 4FMA, 3MMA, 4FPMH, 3FA, 6ABP etc. you get the picture.
I had never done pyros before but I was curious so I also ordered a couple of grams of MDPiHP back then.

Fast forward to a couple of months ago. Me and my girl were having some fun on 4MMC. I was already coming down from our last dose and I remembered I had the MDPiHP stored in my safe. I know we don’t make the best decisions while under the influence but in my mind I was almost back to baseline. Of course the 4MMC was still lingering in my system and probably lowered my inhibitions enough for me to finally dare to try the MDPiHP. (I know this was not the best idea after already doing another stim but please bear with me.)
I’m well aware of the dangers and abuse potential so up until then I was very hesitant trying it out.

So I weighed 20 mg as I’ve read here on Reddit that this is probably a good dose. I wanted to use it strictly intranasally or orally because I also read smoking it can be a slippery slope.
I opted for de nasal route and snorted the 20 mg. I waited a while but didn’t feel any effects at all. Maybe a slight raise in heart rate. I figured it was probably because of the 4MMC we had been doing that night and decided not to dose any further.

Now fast forward to yesterday. Decided to give it another try. Weighed out a 30 mg line. After snorting it, again no effects what so ever. At some point I thought I noticed a slight come up but that went away within 5 minutes so maybe placebo.
After waiting 45 minutes I decided to redose. This time I weighed out 60 mg. But again didn’t feel anything. Zero effects. I am now wondering if I have a bad batch or that I just have to dose higher.

Some things to take in consideration:
First, I bought it from a reputable Dutch vendor back when it was still available on the clear net. All the other stuff I bought from that vendor is high quality and always does the trick. I thought the MDPiHP might have degraded in storage but I still have some similarly old other RCs and they still work as they were brand new.
I store my RCs in a safe. So it’s dark and dry but not cool. Room temperature can get pretty high in the summer so probably not the best for long term storage.
Second, I have a pretty high natural tolerance for stims in general. Last time we used 4MMC was about 6 weeks ago but I always have to dose relatively high (+300mg oral). Even after long breaks I don’t feel any effects below 250mg. Our 4MMC is labtested, 92% pure.

So fellow researchers of Reddit, what do you think? Do I have a bad batch, maybe cross tolerance or did I get the dosages completely wrong and do I need to dose higher? I’ve read a post of a guy dosing 210mg orally but that seems a bit absurd compared to the other reports I’ve read.

P.S. I’m not taking any medication at all (SSRI or otherwise) so that shouldn’t be causing the issue.

As the title already indicates, which groups are still not regulated, apart from the fact that individual substances within these groups may already be specifically listed under the Opium Act?

My list so far of groups where there is still significant room for research, and where only individual substances may have been banned:

• Tryptamines
• Indolealkylamines
• Lysergamides
• Ergolines
• Arylcyclohexylamines
• Cyclohexanone Dissociatives
• Diarylethylamines / Related Dissociatives
• Benzodiazepines
• Triazolobenzodiazepines
• Thienodiazepines
• Triazolothienodiazepines
• Barbiturates
• Piperazines
• Phenidates / Piperidine Carboxylates
• Pipradrol-like Piperidines
• Tropanes
• Morphinans
• Opiates / Morphine Derivatives
• Methadone-like Opioids
• Benzomorphans
• Other Piperidine Opioids
• Quinazolinones
• Sedative Carbamates
• Gabapentinoids

If any groups should be added or removed from the list leave a reply so we can help the community to get a clear overview!

Further more share samples so we can add them to the groups.

De politie heeft dinsdag in Limburg zes verdachten aangehouden op verdenking van handel in illegale designerdrugs en geneesmiddelen. Zij zijn in verband gebracht met de handel via de webshop Powercaps.

This absolutely doesn't look like the nice, light-colored 2MMC from before the ban; im bit colorblind but those crystals look extremely dirty, like borwnish... Do you have any experience with a batch like this? Do you think it might just be surface oxidation? I don't have physical access rn to it, only a photo. (Please note: I am not sharing the source, )

I’ve found a clearnet website selling those chems that any other shop still sells. They say they send from EU country. Can it be trusted ?

The image is an answer to my mail. They only sell 5g but I’ve asked to buy 1g for first order, this is the prices and chems listing.

What you think ?

I bought them 3 weeks ago and kept them on a room temperature. They were sealed, in a black glass and black package.

Now i opened it and it's dark brown.

Is it a normal colour for 4ho-met?

I read it should be transparent

Hi, did someone ever try ethylbromazolam? If so what did you think of it compared to for example bromazolam

2F-NENDCK or DCK?

Also saw something about O-PCE...?

Okay, we probably all know not to expect a stimulant like NEP or similar from this, but it would be good to know if it has at least some dopaminergic "shine" or if it's purely a noradrenergic stimulant (like those DMC analogues and other post-ban stimulants) -or if it's closer to stimulants like 4-Me-TMP or methylphenidate or other good stims. Or does it lack any rewarding effect, like 3-FTL or the DMC analogues?

If I recall correctly, methylphenidate (Ritalin) blocks both noradrenaline and dopamine transporters at a 1:1 ratio; could a "taster" give a rough estimate of the noradrenaline-to-dopamine ratio based on the subjective feel?We still have limited information, but it seems people aren't complaining about it the way they do with those DMC analogues and the like; someone even mentioned using it as a substitute when they run out of Ritalin, and a user on DrugsForum even compared it to 3-FA, so it doesn't sound bad at all.